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I don't know anything about the German consulate. Kyiv.
Interested in the following questions (visa C-tourist):
- Is a copy of the labor certificate required (on the site - no), 100% prepayment for hotels not in Germany (transit)
Are there many refusals in this category of visas
-what is the loyalty of this consulate in principle
We want 3 nights (Austria) and 5 nights (Germany). Auto.
In general, I was already sure that I would go to Poland with a fake route.
BUT! I found a great place to live in Germany and we are really going there.
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аватар BorisLatysh
A tourist visa must be done through the Travel Agency. They attach hotel reservations to documents. I have never heard of issuing a visa to Germany for a hotel reservation. Although maybe you have an American open visa, for example, it might work out. If you do a tourist visa through an agency, then they will tell you everything you need. I think it will be easier through an agency.
аватар hatinka
Sorry, but I'm worried about the three questions written above ;-)
Please note that we are talking about transit hotels.
I believe that a visa is not "needed", but only "can" be done through TA.
I beg you not to advise me to contact the TO / TA or offer services for the purchase of visas.
I am an independent tourist and I am not interested in any kind of intermediaries ;-)
аватар Anetka-gan
I got my German in a day :)
1. I didn’t understand “labor” what is it? visa? if so, then you will still make a copy of all the pages in your passport and the embassy will see it. the presence of a German labor visa is a plus for them, if there were no violations.
somehow I don't even know what to say. here it might be worth calling the embassy and asking - although it’s from the realm of fantasy to get through to them, but it worked out for me
2. if the tickets are paid, the hotel is paid - minimum failures.
3. the consulate is very loyal. especially if you have all the documents in order.
Don't forget to write down your itinerary. necessarily.
if you have any more questions - ask.
аватар Anetka-gan
work book probably :) of course required! with print from work. Well, all the references from work. They have all this information on their website. it is obligatory to have money on the card with the calculation of 45 euros per day !!!!
аватар hatinka
I sort of fit under their frequent traveler window. And my husband too. So no record.
In any case, the record for mid-April does not suit me :-(
Yes, I asked about the work book - in the memo on the site it does not appear.
I just have a choice either to Poland out of habit, or to Germany ...
There are many Polish visas, no German ones. It seems that the Germans are considered difficult ...
аватар Anetka-gan
No, the Germans in Kyiv are just normal. I was worried myself, but I got everything without problems. The main thing is that the documents are in order and in full. is this a record today? horror. the season has started.
аватар hatinka
Yeah, while I was preparing the route and looking at pictures of mountain lakes, I stuck the deadlines. Well, one hope for the window.
Although the day before yesterday I was definitely going to the Poles.
аватар Anetka-gan
Well, through the window there you need 2 Schengen for 2 years at least :) I also almost missed the trip because of the late submission of documents.
аватар hatinka
Yes, it’s not too late yet, but for now I’m butting heads with the peasants in Garmisch (they don’t understand why I poke money at them))))
This is also the time.
I also have everything for the window - it doesn’t matter to them whose Schengen visas, it’s important for them that they are properly rolled and that the last one is not a refusal, well, not a transit.
аватар BorisLatysh
When receiving a guest visa (invitation), the Germans are very loyal. I received an Italian visa, so it was tough. The main thing for the Germans is NOT to lie, And it is desirable to confirm all your words with any documents. printouts or photographs. A conversation in the style of "This is my former neighbor on the site ...." or "We talk on Skype every year ..." On Skype - show the printout and so that the account name is visible (most likely they will check). If you are a neighbor on the site - an extract with the address (data on the place of residence of the inviter is also in the database). And if something doesn’t work out ... be prepared that they will refuse and, among other things, they will not give you a visa. The Germans are neat people (at least in the consulate), although of course they are people too. There are mistakes. Please check the dates carefully! and preferably immediately at the window after receiving the documents. ON ALL BORDERS of Europe can check the visa and with great predilection.
аватар Anetka-gan
hatinka Well, that's understandable. The main thing is that the Schengen rules are not violated. good luck collecting =)
how I paid for the hotel, they called me back and clarified whether I was sure that I wanted to pay the full amount? it's wild for them =)
BorisLatysh what does a visitor visa have to do with it?
аватар hatinka
Boris! Do not scare me, I was in Germany, I was not in the German consulate ;-))))
And my goal is tourism!
аватар BorisLatysh
I have been to the German consulate several times. I have seen many visa refusals. I am trying to help you understand the algorithms of the consulate. Honesty. Accuracy in following instructions. Accuracy in the preparation of the list of documents.
If there is NO work book in the list, then 100% it is NOT needed.
If there is a work book in the list, then 100% it is needed. (As an example of reasoning)
Sorry for the confusing presentation.
аватар hatinka
Thanks, I'm learning.
You see, refusal to refusal is different and their number is a rather subjective indicator. Especially if you take into account refusals on guest, work visas.
With tourism, it’s clearer: they’ll rather not accept documents at all than they will spank refusals to poorly prepared tourists.
After all, a tourist is a wallet for a country, and a guest is a burden.
My personal IMHO)))
Refusals to tourists observed, that's what's interesting.
аватар Anetka-gan
a copy of the work is needed! it is implied in the list of documents from work (at work they even know this, they should know).
MAXIMUM DOCUMENTS NEEDED. even those that may not be on the list but may influence the outcome of the decision.
if you put one extra paper, then you will not lose. that's for sure.
аватар hatinka
Today I had a nice conversation with the reference department of the visa department, she says that she doesn’t need a labor one, but if you bring it, we’ll take it.
аватар Anetka-gan
from the region, as I was told in the information desk that bank statements about the presence of a deposit are not needed, but in fact they asked.
аватар hatinka
About labor, I want to say this thing - I worked as an HR in a large company with 26 branches and a center. office in Kyiv. Labor of all of them lay in Kyiv.
If a request was received from any branch from an unfortunate manager - make a copy of the labor one - I would not do it - according to the internal rules of the company, access to personal files of employees is only at the request of top management)))
Well, the tops are not up to mortals)
Or in case of dismissal, change of position ...
Actually, they didn’t ask for labor Xeria even once.
But income certificates were quickly taken and given always without delay.
The same is true about calls to work such as checking whether a person in the company is working or not.
I have never heard from my friends eycharov that they called to check. They would have called me when I was Eycharovskaya, I would not have answered 100%, but would have asked for a written request. Few people call. I have my own internal instruction.
She herself wore her labor one time to the Poles - they really wanted to, then they didn’t wear it, but no one demanded it either. I received visas, pah-pah ...
But it is necessary to start a separate Temko, for sure there are a lot of personnel officers-accountants here. Whom did they call from the consulates and check the certificates of the employees. I hear there will be few of them)))
аватар Anetka-gan
our HRs always send copies of labor records.
By the way, the Germans are still harmful. all bank statements must be made no earlier than 3 days before the interview at the embassy!
аватар hatinka
We had an entrance to the office by fingerprints ;-)
There was no access to personal files.
Just different docks-darkness. There may not be a labor force at all. Or maybe not alone. There can only be contracts, agreements.
But they do not know from their bell tower and want to know.
A simple trifle - an account from a foreign legal entity. Go, try to pay at the bank without the original contract translated into Ukrainian ;-)
To be honest, this is such an atavism, this labor, it is only to collect waste paper. Nobody registers, write what you want, lose, new backwaters. My IMHO.
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