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Until what age is the ticket free?
Until what age is the ticket free?
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4 subscribers  • asked 2012-11-2312 years ago
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аватар dimdimysh
Open a search engine, fill in your data (adults, children) and you will see
аватар PolikSVT
Only children under 2 years old stay in most hotels for free, but at the same time, a boarding pass for an airplane worth $ 50 (without a seat) is still purchased for an infant. So nothing is free.
аватар HotLine
More correctly, this rule sounds like this:
1. In most hotels, children under 12 stay free of charge.
2. The cost of a package tour includes the cost of a charter flight. For children, it is as follows - until the age of 2 years (infants), a separate seat for a child on an airplane is not provided and only the airport tax (about 50 dollars) is paid. From the age of 2, a child is provided with a separate seat, so the cost of his flight is the same as for an adult.
аватар PolikSVT
HotLine, let me disagree with you here! My practice of traveling with a child shows that in most cases this is just a "subtle" marketing ploy of hotels!!! And in other matters, what is left for living there, if on average 60% of the cost of the tour is a flight ???
аватар Oleksii64
And another clarification: for example, a package tour, but a flight on a regular flight - the ticket price for a child under 12 years old (under the package) is 20% cheaper than an adult
In general, the TS should have been written more specifically, maybe the child is already 15 years old? :))
аватар HotLine
Oleksii64 - a tour to Egypt is being discussed. What are the scheduled flights? In my answer in paragraph 2, I wrote - "The cost of the package tour includes the cost of a charter flight." Yes, and hotel accommodation does not depend on the method of flight.
PolikSVT. Your personal experience? Smiled. For prices and procedures with the travel agent that I am, your year of experience fits in my one day. This, of course, does not refer to the actual experience of "life" in travel.
So in numbers.
For example, I took two hotels - the discussed economy hotel and one of the best hotels for children's holidays in Hurghada
Departure 12/02/2012 from Moscow, tour for a week, the first price is for two adults, the second for two adults and a child 10 years old, operator TEZTUR (can be checked on their website)
SUN & SEA HURGHADA HOTEL 3*
$962
1324 dollars
SUNRISE SELECT GARDEN BEACH RESORT & SPA 5*
1788 dollars
2150 dollars
The difference in prices for 2 and 2 + 1 for both hotels is the SAME - 362 dollars. This is the cost of the flight.
Imagine, a 10-year-old child "worth the same" in the top three on half board and in the excellent five on ultra all inclusive.
And this is a generally accepted principle of pricing for children. About what I wrote, based on my experience.
аватар PolikSVT
HotLine, I'm very glad that I cheered you up :))) And what does ANNUAL experience have to do with it? I have been flying regularly since 1993, the last 4 with my granddaughter, and more than once a year. I do not belittle and respect your professionalism, but my "experience" suggests otherwise. Have you tried to change the age of the child in the search engine? Well, for example, 3 years, 8 years, 12, etc.? As a rule, the price is different, especially in the "high" season. Yes, and the practice of maintenance and hotels to divide children by age: 2-6, 7-12, etc. - what do you think, why, if accommodation is free?
аватар HotLine
Since we are hooked on the topic with the participation of experienced tourists, which the participants in this discussion undoubtedly are, I will add.
There are exceptions. But they are very rare and, as a rule, involve an additional increase in the upper limit of childhood.
For example, the following age ranges:
0-6, 7-14, over 14
Children from the first age range stay free of charge.
But again, these are rare cases. Usually we consider such hotels for cases when a child is over 12 years old, and tourists want to get some kind of discount for this "adult" person.
There are about a dozen such hotels in Hurghada. For example,
DESERT ROSE 5 *
All this applies only to accommodation in standard rooms. For other types of placements - completely different rules.
Something like this.
аватар HotLine
PolikSVT, You did not please me in this thread. But you are very competent in responding where real personal travel experience is required. Travel agents have it specific.
But in the questions that I have designated "On questions of prices and procedures," any adequate agent has more experience. It is obvious. My managers are engaged in the selection of prices every day and dozens of times.
I'm happy for another. The fact that he gave some additional knowledge to an experienced tourist.
Although most of these tourists have the same reaction as you. I'm used to it and it doesn't bother me. After all, this is real knowledge.
An example of the last such communication is here:
http://www.turpravda.com/uc/question-35416.html?page=0#answer
By the way, the principles of "pricing children" in the high and low season, as a rule, do not change.
аватар PolikSVT
Dear Hotline! Once again I repeat that I cannot but trust your experience as a TA. BUT ... explain then, please: when booking the tour, we had children of different ages, 3 and 11 years old, if the children live for free, the cost of airfare is the same for everyone (that's for sure), why is the price of the tour for 1 adult + 1 child for me and a friend it turns out a little different???? Always like this!
аватар HotLine
We have already discussed this. There are hotels with this concept.
They are few.
In the Sun & Sea 3* hotel, on which the question was asked, children under 12 years old stay free of charge. I provided the calculation.
Let's look at your specific case. Name the hotel.
аватар PolikSVT
Let's try! (Only I think it will be problematic to do it in Turkey now) Hotels Amara Club Marine and Club Boran Mare.
аватар HotLine
I don't guess, I know.
1. Club hotels in Turkey do not work in winter. There are no spring prices yet. Therefore, I can’t give prices for the hotels you specified now.
2. Winter Turkey this year is peculiar. The number of flights from the CIS has been drastically reduced. For example, in Ukraine there are no flights at all, except for the New Year ones. I don't remember that. And no one is commenting on it. In this regard, the prices are peculiar. Hotels work on the principle - even if there are small losses, just not to close. The concept is significantly different from the summer one.
3. But even now we can give examples.
December 5, for a week from Moscow
CRYSTAL DE LUXE RESORT&SPA 5
$1,008 - two adults
$1274 - two adults and a child from 2 to 12
difference - $266
AMARA DOLCE VITA LUXURY 5 *
$1421 - two adults
$1687 - two adults and a child from 2 to 14
the difference is the same - 266 dollars. But the hotels are different.
But even now, when choosing a tour, Dolce Vita has two ranges of children's ages 2-7, 7-14. This means that prices will be different in summer.
The hotels you mentioned are expensive, focused on families with children. With a high probability, they have the same pricing policy - 2-7, 7-14
аватар dimdimysh
You are breaking spears here, but the TC is not at all interested. Never unsubscribed))
аватар PolikSVT
Hotline, thanks for the clarification! But that's just the trick is that I simply don’t drive to hotels below the level of the above! I think you understand why. For the same reason, I do not consider Egypt at all. Therefore, with the difference in prices for tours (depending on the age of the child) and in Turkish hotels, as well as in Bulgaria, Cyprus, Spain, I constantly come across. At the same time, they declare in advertising: "children live free of charge." But in reality it's not like that...
аватар PolikSVT
dimdimysh, yes, we don’t “break”, but using the question of the TC shamelessly, we expand our horizons :)))
аватар HotLine
Be objective.
After all, kids are free. At least up to 7 years. And I can name a lot of great hotels, including in Turkey, where "children are free" up to 12 years old. An example of a great hotel for a family holiday in Hurghada, I gave above.
And as a specialist, I can confidently say that the hotels you mentioned (Amara Club Marine and Club Boran Mare) are overrated hotels. But the fact remains. Boran Mare needs to be booked before the start of the season, and TEZTUR has been working on its Amars for three years to bring them to the current level of service and prices. Personally, I would never go to Boran Mare. But we book it every year for our tourists because it's their choice, not ours.
By the way, TEZTUR sells its hotels. Amara in Side and Kemer have already been sold.
аватар PolikSVT
HotLine, I think that here, according to the assessment of AKM and Boran Mare hotels, you are wrong! And if you go to BM, then definitely with a baby! A set of FREE services for children, PERFECT cleanliness and in this case a large + compact territory - these are the main criteria by which I chose a hotel for a 2.5-year-old baby. AKM was even better!!! And who is talking about "overestimation"? How about Ela Quality? At the end of May, for 10 days, I paid $ 1,900 for AKM, I think this price for such a hotel is simply not the price! (considering the flight from Yekaterinburg) But with Dessert Rose, you just KILLED me to the ground!!! VERY average hotel! Food, service - on a weak 4! Shallow lagoons? I can suggest hotels where they are available, and no worse. The same Arabia Azur 4 *, a chic set of beaches for all tastes! Beach Albatros, Albatros Palace, Sunrise, Steinberger, etc. Yes, Palm Beach! Here, as always, TA and the tourist look at their vacation with a different look and from a different bell tower. This is an axiom.
аватар HotLine
Those. You do not dispute that children live free of charge. This is already moving forward.
I knew that you would dispute my attitude towards Boran Mara and Amara. That is why we do not dissuade our tourists from going to them. If they are ready to overpay, then this is their decision. But we will never go to them to rest. You will not deny me that I know these hotels well. By the way, I saw this Amara even before she became Amara.
Another very important tip. When you oppose someone, carefully read the source. In order not to get into a stupid situation (sorry, how can I evaluate your righteous anger about Dessert Rose with a sequel).
For a good FREE CHILDREN'S HOLIDAY I recommended SUNRISE SELECT GARDEN BEACH RESORT & SPA 5*. I quote myself - "in the excellent five on ultra all inclusive"
And see for yourself in what context I mentioned DESERT ROSE 5 *.
So you killed yourself. Carelessness.
аватар HotLine
I regularly oppose experienced tourists on this site and fight misconceptions. I chose this function for myself.
I have been in contact with almost all of our experts. Here we crossed paths with you. I also recognize you as an expert.
All of them (and you are no exception) made the same mistake at the beginning - a prejudiced attitude towards the representative of the tourist industry. Derogatory. That's why EVERYONE got into a situation similar to yours with Dessert Rose in the beginning. This is my explanation for your error. I treat this with understanding, but I urge you to fight stereotypes and conduct a correct discussion.
аватар HotLine
Dessert Rose.
Economy five with its own specifics. By the way, everyone has specifics, there are no ideal hotels, Boran Mare, for example, has a microscopic territory (according to modern Turkish standards for good hotels).
Dessert Rose is optimal in terms of price-quality ratio. Those who understand this are satisfied with the rest (look at its rating here, against the backdrop of more than 200 reviews - this is a fairly objective assessment). And I cited it as an example of a hotel where children from 12 to 14 years old can live at a discount. Not more.
аватар PolikSVT
HotLine, I'm completely incomprehensible!? I didn’t see info about Sunrise in my message! Now I read it again! In general, my site has been working strangely lately, I have contacted technical assistance more than once. My apologies! And I didn’t understand what Tez was selling there, also an unfinished offer ... :))
аватар HotLine
Well, well, Sunrise is not visible. But I didn't praise Dessert Rose. There was nothing to be "killed on the spot."
The standard prejudice has worked for you when we see what is natural for us.
Therefore, my favorite phrase is the call - "open your mind". For this, I also regularly receive replicas on this site.
аватар HotLine
By the way, the level of your communication is quite high. You can even say that I am pleased to communicate with you. The same, for example, as sigur62. And here's what's disturbing. You are both from Russia. But with the Ukrainian experts on this site, I do not have comfort in communicating. Is it a civic mentality? But I myself am from Ukraine and Ukrainian by nationality. This is disturbing.
аватар sigur62
Thanks for the mention, old man! )))
Communication with an adequate opponent impresses me.
After all, you "have no comfort in communicating" (c) only with the "untouchables" on this site. One cannot object to them, one can only admire their brilliant mind and vast experience in tourism. Besides, all (!) of them are women. And if women snap at you, it means they love you))) It always happens that way. My subordinate women in the army, right in the ranks, told me: "Comrade Major, you are a boor!" At the same time, they were ready to tear anyone who said so from the side with their teeth)))
Well, don’t touch them, let them amuse your pride)))
аватар PolikSVT
HotLine, thanks for the kind words :))) But by position, I, like "a man in a skirt", am the head of both work (in the municipality) and public "loads" - the chairman of the trade union committee :))) And tourism is my old love, and already, alas, probably not implemented in a professional sense)! All that remains is to travel as far as the finances allow, and help others in this! With great pleasure I help my colleagues in the selection of tours, then we book them in my favorite TA, respectively, and they also love me there :)) (well, you will understand why ...) And sigur62 is a very pleasant erudite interlocutor, it is interesting for us to communicate - maybe that's why that we are all from approximately the same group "made in the USSR"?
аватар sigur62
So we made friends)))
аватар PolikSVT
Yeah :))
аватар HotLine
Sure sure:)
аватар PolikSVT
HotLine, it's fun, but it was common ... (I could be wrong). BUT ... good health and good mood to all! And new impressions from travels!
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