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Tell me, at whose rate the tour is calculated? That or That. We have Join Up
Tell me, at whose rate the tour is calculated? That or That. We have Join Up
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TO of course. In TA, in principle, there is no course of its own. And you are risky (th))))) I'm at the expense of Joint.
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answered 5 years ago
At what rate ("today") the tour will be sold knows TO. TO, according to its algorithms, coordinates the rate of the day with the rate of the National Bank ... The travel agency finds out from TO the rate for selling the tour "for today". And this rate, as a rule, is always higher than in exchangers .. always with a margin.
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answered 5 years ago
Join's website has a course every day. Should we trust him and insist on this course?
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answered 5 years ago
If your travel agency operates with TO "Join UP", then the rate for it "for today" will be set by "Join UP". Find out with the travel agency why there is a difference between the rate on the "Join UP" website and the one advertised (by the travel agency) to you.
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answered 5 years ago
Agents work at the rates of operators. This is written in the templates of contracts that operators are obliged to conclude with tourists. Courses are public - available on the websites of operators. Now most operators set the current rate according to the formula "yesterday's interbank rate plus UAH 1.20." The interbank rate for tomorrow is already known at 16-00 today. Experienced agents can name a course for tomorrow with an accuracy of a couple of kopecks already at 13-00 today. With the exception of one operator, the first invoice for payment by the operator is issued at the exchange rate on the date of confirmation of the application. Those. if an application in the operator's booking system is made in the evening, then it can be confirmed tomorrow at tomorrow's rate.
Something like this.
Something like this.
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answered 5 years ago
Look for a normal TA. I always cry in USD and their course (about 29) does not interest me. Join is a normal MOT, yes there are transfers, but this is more often due to the weather. I don't care who to fly from, everyone needs to keep an eye out
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answered 5 years ago
Wiland, you have some kind of stupid TA, they work at a minus at the rate. Although, maybe they don’t give you a discount, then everything is OK)))
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answered 5 years ago
I pay in USD -5%. Their artificial course is not my problem. It was true 10-15 years ago. TO worked at the NBU rate on the day of payment and I paid by bank transfer at the NBU rate, which was cheaper than the exchanger
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answered 5 years ago
I go to a site for example otpusk.com and choose my ticket. After you have chosen, there is an id-tour, where you can read all the information about the tour and the price in dollars. For example 700 for two for 10 nights. I go to "my" TA, pay them $665 or $700, give $35 change and at the end of the day or the next they give me the whole package of documents (flight, voucher, insurance). And I’m all resting, as, for example, now in Egypt, in Sharm, it was sunny before lunch, now the sky is overcast
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answered 5 years ago
Wiland
On sites such as "Vacation.com" estimated prices. You find a hotel there, finding out its approximate price (package tour). Then you go to the Travel Agency and find out at what price they will sell you a package tour to this hotel. In one agency, working with one MOT, it may be more expensive, in another, working with another MOT, it may be cheaper ... this is normal. If you pay in dollars (not everywhere such transactions are carried out), then you are not interested in the rate at which the payment operation will be made in hryvnias, but if you pay in hryvnias, you will be told at what rate "today" the payment is made. So we are talking about the fact that this course sets TO (according to algorithms agreed with the financial authorities ... "National Bank", etc.)
On sites such as "Vacation.com" estimated prices. You find a hotel there, finding out its approximate price (package tour). Then you go to the Travel Agency and find out at what price they will sell you a package tour to this hotel. In one agency, working with one MOT, it may be more expensive, in another, working with another MOT, it may be cheaper ... this is normal. If you pay in dollars (not everywhere such transactions are carried out), then you are not interested in the rate at which the payment operation will be made in hryvnias, but if you pay in hryvnias, you will be told at what rate "today" the payment is made. So we are talking about the fact that this course sets TO (according to algorithms agreed with the financial authorities ... "National Bank", etc.)
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answered 5 years ago
Otpusk.com has been showing real prices for a long time.
Once upon a time, prices were loaded into our databases from the so-called SPOs, which were issued by operators in the form of price files of various formats. The databases were huge, dozens of servers, delays in downloading prices, errors in SPO files, and so on. Naturally, then there were "approximate" prices.
Today, we get prices in real time and no longer store them at home. Those. what Otpusk.com now shows is received at the moment on request from the operators' servers. The operator server poll is displayed on the price display screen.
These are real prices.
Once upon a time, prices were loaded into our databases from the so-called SPOs, which were issued by operators in the form of price files of various formats. The databases were huge, dozens of servers, delays in downloading prices, errors in SPO files, and so on. Naturally, then there were "approximate" prices.
Today, we get prices in real time and no longer store them at home. Those. what Otpusk.com now shows is received at the moment on request from the operators' servers. The operator server poll is displayed on the price display screen.
These are real prices.
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answered 5 years ago
There are no algorithms for sucking the rate out of the finger of TO. There is a profit that they want to additionally receive from the difference. In otpusk.com, TO throw off their offers, they are importantly relevant from 10-19:00. My TA supports all MOT, but there are not so many of them, if you don’t want in USD, ask for a 10% discount and have a good rest!!!
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answered 5 years ago
Prices on Otpusk.com are valid only at the time of the selection of the tour. Just like the agency manager.
Operators can change prices at any time of the day.
Operators can change prices at any time of the day.
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answered 5 years ago
With "my" TA everything is OK! On the 29th, we looked at the price - $ 864. They immediately made a discount up to 820. I left $ 200 and made a reservation. (it was about 25000) Today, they counted at the rate (28.52) Joint-23470. And be healthy!))) Join's tour for today (on my date) is $965.
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answered 5 years ago
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Your last answer ("...Operators can change prices at any time of the day...") only confirms the fact that the prices found on the site "Otpusk.com" are only indicative for the tourist. There is also a "discount" tool, either there is, or it is not. Also the rate "on the day of sale". The specific price (it interests the tourist) will appear only at the time of payment. It is clear that the difference between the price seen on the site and announced in the agency will not be so critical as to refuse the tour.
Your last answer ("...Operators can change prices at any time of the day...") only confirms the fact that the prices found on the site "Otpusk.com" are only indicative for the tourist. There is also a "discount" tool, either there is, or it is not. Also the rate "on the day of sale". The specific price (it interests the tourist) will appear only at the time of payment. It is clear that the difference between the price seen on the site and announced in the agency will not be so critical as to refuse the tour.
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answered 5 years ago
Wiland You are a rare liar, not a single TA will work with you on such conditions. Lose on the course and still give a discount, I wonder if there is an idiot in this audience who will believe you. Yes, for the fact that the TA took not a hryvnia from you, the tax authorities can screw them up so much that it will be necessary to close the TA.
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answered 5 years ago
zolyshka111 Not only you bring the liar to clean water, do not deny others this pleasure. In my presence recently, one such storyteller hung on his ears that he flew to Hainan by air for $ 1000 for two. Tired of storytellers.
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answered 5 years ago
TO pays TA 13% kickback so you know. You can argue for a long time, but I am now in Sharm, for the fourth time in a year, in September I had time to rest in Turkey, but you can sit on the forums and argue. Yes, TA can change prices 3-4 times during the day, the cheapest offer is less than a day in advance, I took the tour 22 hours before departure
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answered 5 years ago
In Nikolaev, JoinUp Pushkinskaya str., 15, and they send from any TO, flew from Anex, TPG from Odessa and Kyiv, now 2 flights on Tue and Fri fly from Nikolaev from 12/27/2018 they fly from join SkyUp is cheaper and more convenient for me , but there are delays in the last couple of weeks. I flew out with a delay of 4.5 hours (11:40-16:05), now about 12
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answered 5 years ago
In Nikolaev, as in Odessa, everyone has been working in dollars for a long time, come to 7 km the hryvnia is of no interest to anyone and everything will become clear to you where the tax office is and how to work correctly
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answered 5 years ago
lazy_person - you need to call a spade a spade.
Estimated prices are indicative. What is this approximate price, if at the moment it is possible to make a reservation at this price. Prices from the selection of the tour at the moment are the real prices.
But any experienced manager will tell you that he had cases when the price changed even at the time of booking the tour. Even this does not mean that they were indicative a minute before. Has anyone booked at this price?
Let me make a philosophical statement - "any reality is a reality at a given moment in time in a given place."
Wiland, have already discussed discounts here more than once. 13% TO commission is given only to very worthy TAs. Worthy are those who sell correctly and a lot. Such TAs do not give discounts of 10%, since 3% is not enough for advertising, rent, salaries, equipment, taxes and development.
Estimated prices are indicative. What is this approximate price, if at the moment it is possible to make a reservation at this price. Prices from the selection of the tour at the moment are the real prices.
But any experienced manager will tell you that he had cases when the price changed even at the time of booking the tour. Even this does not mean that they were indicative a minute before. Has anyone booked at this price?
Let me make a philosophical statement - "any reality is a reality at a given moment in time in a given place."
Wiland, have already discussed discounts here more than once. 13% TO commission is given only to very worthy TAs. Worthy are those who sell correctly and a lot. Such TAs do not give discounts of 10%, since 3% is not enough for advertising, rent, salaries, equipment, taxes and development.
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answered 5 years ago
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I am not an employee of the travel industry and I speak as a consumer. When I sit at home in the evening, look for a suitable option and select a hotel on the site ("Vacation.com"), for me this price is indicative. You are sitting at work and at the moment, serving the next client, looking at the site, contacting the TO, you see the real price at a given moment in time ... you announce it to the buyer. For me, the price on the site becomes real when I come to you, to the agency, and at the moment I am buying a tour. Tighten up...Is it really hard to understand?
I am not an employee of the travel industry and I speak as a consumer. When I sit at home in the evening, look for a suitable option and select a hotel on the site ("Vacation.com"), for me this price is indicative. You are sitting at work and at the moment, serving the next client, looking at the site, contacting the TO, you see the real price at a given moment in time ... you announce it to the buyer. For me, the price on the site becomes real when I come to you, to the agency, and at the moment I am buying a tour. Tighten up...Is it really hard to understand?
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answered 5 years ago
And what kind of TO sells the tour at the price indicated on Vacation.com can you see?
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