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Please advise how it is cheaper to visit Barcelona from May 15-17 (tour through an agency or take a ticket and book a hotel yourself).
Share your experience, I will be very grateful, thank you.
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аватар ollennka
Depending on what kind of vacation you want. Agencies are usually sharpened for a beach holiday, that is, the hotel itself will be on the coast, and in Barcelona itself, either for 2-3 days of the excursion part in front of the sea, or in general, buy separate excursions for 1 day from the Costa Dorada.
When I went to Barcelona, ​​I wanted exactly Barcelona and suburbs like Figueres (Dali Museum) and Salou (Port Aventura amusement park). I also looked at the agencies to clear my conscience, but they didn’t have such sightseeing tours, or they cost like a plane. Therefore, for 10 days, they took separate tickets and a separate hotel in Barcelona itself. Barcelona for independent tourism is a chic city: an excellent network of metro and commuter trains, sights at every turn, a clear system of signs, almost all streets are either parallel or perpendicular, it’s hard to get lost, museums mostly have audio guides, including in Russian .
аватар ollennka
For the sake of interest, we took a couple of excursions separately: to the Montserrat monastery and a night tour around the city. But if there was nothing like a guide to Montserrat, then they simply wasted money on a night tour.
In general, my conclusion is that it is more comfortable for the wallet and for the nerves to travel not through an agency, but on your own.
аватар kolyan_cat
We traveled by ourselves, there is no problem to buy plane tickets and book a hotel or apartment.
According to Barcelona itself, my opinion is only a beach holiday. From the point of view of attractions, there is nothing to do there, a hyped dummy, besides, the entrances to all the main "sights", which they consider remakes of the 20th century (due to the lack of real attractions), are unreasonably expensive. The city itself is all remodeled, there is not much of the old city, because. Barcelona's rapid growth was in the 20th century.
Well, maybe you can travel around, in small towns, to see what's there.
Well, the nightlife is in full swing, all sorts of entertainment.
аватар ollennka
)))) Novodel. Well, yes, in comparison with the ancient Roman ruins of Gaudi, this is already a remake of the 19-20 centuries.
аватар kolyan_cat
Yes, you don’t even need to compare with Rome, the same Paris, London, Milan, St. Petersburg, Amsterdam - they breathe history.
Gaudi - another scam for tourists. Everywhere they write "Great Gaudi" - and the question is - besides the fact that he did something in Spain, and not because of his talent, but because he got into the trust of the Kool family, what did he do great? Who would have known him if the Spaniards had not promoted him by selling tickets to the "creations of the great Gaudi" at exorbitant prices? Yes, why go far, the Sagrada Familia Cathedral - and he not only unfinished, did not even design, he sketched some blanks on a napkin (relatively speaking), but the chief architect, a Japanese, is building it now. And crowds of crazy tourists pay 25 Euros to go to the construction site (naturally!) And touch the "creation of the Great Gaudi".
According to my observations, the Spaniards have always been extremely lazy, instead of creating something, it is easier to tell a fairy tale, and then, so that the suckers are imbued, they tear up a triple price and people think "if it's expensive, then it's cool!"
аватар ollennka
Tastes, of course, do not argue, but the very fact of the "youth" of the buildings does not cancel their status of attractions.
аватар kolyan_cat
Well, let's just say - a modern bronze sculpture in Kyiv, on Andreevsky Descent - a landmark? Yes. Are tourists interested in taking pictures with her? Yes.
Is it worth it to specially go to watch it from abroad? No.
It's the same in Barcelona, ​​there are "sights", but it's not worth it to make a special trip to see them. Well, except for a couple of objects, somehow Mount Montjuc, the Montserrat Monastery, the port, the Gothic Quarter (and the latter is debatable). As an attachment to a beach holiday, these "sights" will roll. For pumping money into the city treasury from tourists going crazy with boredom on the beach - that's what you need. Independent value - at the level of the plinth.
аватар ollennka
Oh how ... and I went to Barcelona solely for the sake of Gaudí's architecture. I saw a program about him on TV and immediately wanted to go to Barcelona.
аватар kolyan_cat
Well, it’s not for nothing that they swell so much money into PR, every penny swelled pays off - a lot of people buy and crowds of tourists go to Sagrada day and night)))
But ask who the architect of Notre Dame Cathedral was - no one will say, and the entrance there is therefore free))
Now compare - Notre Dame was built in the 12th-14th centuries - more than 200 years, and at that time it was 100 times more difficult than building the Sagrada in the 21st century using modern technologies. Therefore, Notre Dame is an architectural monument, and such a magnificent remake as Sagrada - yes, the only question is money, the whole of Dubai was built up with such expensive concrete))
Stupid Frenchmen, they would promote some of their well-known architects in narrow circles, then they would make a paid entrance to Notre Dame for 30 euros - and the people would be more than ever))
аватар alex45
The answer is that for me it is always better to travel independently and cheaper than paying part of the money to a travel agency for their services.
And kolyan, why compare with the French? At least the Ukrainians promoted something in their country, so that the people would come here endlessly. What is there no money or desire? So let's take a look at ourselves! As an example. A "new building" was made on Khortitsa - a Cossack town. So until now, public transport does not go there!
аватар katalinatour
Like a tour. the agent will say the following: if you still have a question about how best to proceed, the answer is clear in itself - you are not a confident independent traveler (do not take offense :))) so contact the experts and they will help you.
At the moment the situation is as follows: tour. the agent can organize any individual tour according to your desire! - it's not expensive and not difficult.
аватар ollennka
Is it a matter of confidence? The author asks how cheaper.
аватар katalinatour
often the cost of the trip depends on confidence and knowledge, I’m talking about this)
аватар alex45
Let's do it differently! How much does the TA service cost for organizing an independent trip in % of the cost of such an independent trip. Or maybe in another way, how much an independent traveler will additionally pay to your TA to the cost of a similar package without your services. What am I talking about, I have been engaged in independent tourism for a long time and still I cannot call myself a completely confident tourist, because. often due to lack of time I do not look through all the options. Therefore, rather, TA can only help if you have a lack of time and you are reluctant to rummage around the Internet for hours to find information. And so, for example, how to come to Venice from Treviso to Piazza Roma. and then in some of the hotels you can arrange it by the minute, as it is convenient for the tourist.
In general, we are moving away from the topic. The forum has a branch "Self-tourism" There are discussed such issues.
And of course katalinatour did not answer the question of the HARDWARE and, why, it’s understandable, you need to consider this, you can’t say offhand, but the work costs money.
аватар alex45
And not every TA will undertake to make an individual tour, many TAs sit only on packages from TO for interest and nothing more.
аватар katalinatour
Thank you for taking such good care of me :)
to the question advise how cheaper, I clearly answered that in this particular case, if such a question arose, it would be cheaper through specialists.
regarding the earnings of agents, everyone should receive money for their work, and this is logical.
I am ready to make an individual route if you need help.
the service fee when buying a ticket is 200 UAH (i.e., your ticket purchased from us will cost 200 UAH more than the market price, but in most cases it turns out that the ticket costs much cheaper than you see in search engines).
hotel booking: you can easily use all known services like booking, however, there are often situations when the price from our sources for the same hotel with the same conditions is slightly lower. At the same time, booking often has a service fee of 10% - this is earnings
how to form a tourist by yourself or with the help of a specialist case of choice.
have a good day:)
аватар alex45
Sorry, this is how I understood your answer.
1. It will be cheaper with a specialist who deals with individual tours. Agree that there are TAs who do not know about this and are engaged only in mediation (tour operator - travel agent - tourist).
2. You agree to make me (or someone) an individual route, if help is needed, with payment for the service rendered, and this is logical! I, specifically, don’t need it, I like to dig and do it myself. Then I won’t have to blame anyone if something goes wrong. And yet, I don’t need to “make routes”, how to get from point A to point B or how to get there, I “I’m developing a route”: how to get there, the number of transport, what time it will be at the landing and at what time it will be at the disembarkation, I’m not talking about the cost, right up to which ticket office to get in order to buy tickets. This is what I understand the development of the route.
3. In addition to well-known ones, do you also have your own services or contacts for organizing air tickets or accommodation at a price lower than those known to everyone? If so, then maybe someday we will cross paths!
аватар alex45
4. You affirm that it is the choice of the tourist himself to form an individual tour or TA. So he asks for help, which is cheaper. You say that TA, I do it myself. And again we returned to the beginning of our discussion
As an example, my friend did not have time for a cruise from Barcelona, ​​the plane was delayed. I urgently had to develop a route from Girona, where he ended up, to Marseille (the next stop of the liner). It was a bit difficult, given that the money was running out and they refused to fly, but they managed to get on the ship. A minimum of transfers, where is the bus, where are the French railways, we even had to make amendments along the way, but we managed to do it.
I know only one person on this site who works this way. As they say, he leads a tourist from the steps of his home and brings him back. And he does not hide the amount of the fee.
Good luck to you!
аватар DENIRA
Antiquity
There are two different legends regarding the founding of Barcelona. The first ascribes the foundation of the city to the hero of Greek myths Hercules 400 years before the founding of Rome, and then in the 3rd century BC. e. the city was rebuilt by the Carthaginian Hamilcar Barca, father of Hannibal, who named the city Barcino in honor of his family.
The second legend attributes the founding of the city directly to Hamilkar (Amelkart) Barka. In 133 BC. e. The Iberian city of Laie was conquered by the Romans, led by Lucius Cornelius Scipio. About 15 BC. e. the Romans made the city a fortification centered on Mount Taber, a small hill near the modern city hall (St. James's Square). Under the Romans, the city was called Colonia Faventia Julia Augusta Pia Barcino, its significance was small compared to neighboring Tarracon (modern Tarragona). However, its wealth and importance grew over time due to its convenient location and beautiful harbor.
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