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Where to open the Schengen when traveling by car
Are we going by car to Europe? In which embassy is it easier to open a visa and what is needed for this?
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аватар oresta52
In Belarus, the easiest way to open a visa for 15 days is at the Polish Embassy. What is needed for this, go to the agency, they will tell you. As in Ukraine, maybe someone will tell you.
аватар hatinka
You know, it all depends on which countries you are really going to visit. You are required to apply for a visa of the country in which you will be the maximum number of days. If there is an equal amount of time everywhere, then the first Schengen country on the route (and you must enter this particular country).
If you come to Poland with a hotel payment in Austria for 5 days and in Poland for 3 days, your documents will simply not be accepted and sent to Austria.
If you, as required by all consulates, will pay for hotels and subsequently live there, then the rule described above can be easily observed.
The easiest way is to do Poland, Hungary or Slovakia, depending on the intended route, because in any case you will enter through one of these countries.
Personally, I'm leaning towards Hungary.
аватар sandazh
On which website can I make hotel reservations for submission to the embassy? With the ability not to pay for accommodation, as we plan to live in inexpensive hotels (in which there is no possibility of booking).
аватар oresta52
Now the rules have changed a bit. A visa is made at the Polish Embassy and you go to Europe, where you need to, and it is not necessary to enter Poland. On the visa it is written: To the Schengen countries. Therefore, they make a Schengen and fly from Kyiv on a cheap Vizair to Germany. If there is no specific route, then it is easier to go to the agency and get a Schengen visa without any booking, and then stay at hotels wherever you want along the way.
аватар sandazh
to get a visa through an agency, you need to book hotels and pay money, and we have a limited budget, we want to do everything ourselves ...
аватар oresta52
Through the agency, you will pay 60 euros for consular fees and 60 for hotel reservations. And for 60 euros, you book yourself for a maximum of 2 nights. And without booking you won't get a visa. Look for relatives in Europe who will send you an invitation and give you shelter.
аватар shumera
to make a visa yourself, you also need to book a hotel (at least for a while in that country at the embassy of which you will do it - such bureaucratic rules). proof of solvency (account statement)
If you go by car - then the documents for the car, insurance for the car and travel insurance.
and the rest of the necessary documents.
Well, since you are going to France, do the French Schengen.
аватар sandazh
Why make a problematic French Schengen? there is a high chance of rejection
a question about booking - I can book a hotel - submit a paper about this to the embassy, ​​and then cancel the reservation. and live in hostels or apartments
аватар alex45
It's not that hard to book hotels without an agency though
through booking or there are five more sites, but some hotels require proof of solvency, you can use Visa or MasterCard cards. After receiving visas from the hotel, you can refuse, although there are certain deadlines.
аватар sandazh
alex45, register the site again, otherwise you indicated the soap.
booking question: can I book a hotel on the booking.com website (there you need to enter the card number, but they don’t charge money before confirmation) and then submit a letter about the hotel reservation to the embassy? Will this happen at the Polish consulate?
аватар alex45
I don't know Polish, I did it in Italian.
According to the site, I wrote that I remembered, find it through the soap.
аватар hatinka
Call the "necessary" consulates for you on the account of whether payment for hotels is necessary or booking is enough.
Because, more "complicated" consulates such as France, Germany, they say, accept reservations from booking without any problems. But the same Poland, the Czech Republic require exactly the payment (!) Of the hotel, often even full (!) And mandatory confirmation in the form of a fax from the hotel or the original letter from the hotel indicating the amount of payment, etc.
Many people (judging by the forums) managed to get a visa with a reservation, but there are many who simply did not accept documents until the moment of payment ...
So there is some risk.
As an option, pay for camping and score on it. Having previously agreed with the campsite, that after payment you will be sent a fax about full / partial payment.
Or use the consultation at the Consulate of Poland, if you have chosen it.
I myself am going to apply to Poland, also auto-write how everything will end for you. Very interesting, for "future experiences".
аватар hatinka
By the way, when you specify the dates of the trip in the visa application form, feel free to add 1 day on both sides of the "paid/booked" days at the hotel.
If you are asked why this is so, you will say that you still need to get to the place of lodging for the night and you will have your first overnight stay in Ukraine. This is a trifle, but one day at the beginning you will win without paying. The Poles like to give visas the same day the hotel is paid, despite the fact that a person needs to drive 8-10 hours to this hotel.
аватар oresta52
No one will accept your documents for a Schengen visa simply with a hotel reservation! There are so many smart people out there! Required with proof of payment! But then to refuse the hotel and return their money is a question.
аватар sandazh
oresta52, I do not quite agree. not all consulates require full payment
аватар oresta52
Maybe in Ukraine they are so loyal to you, in Belarus such a trick does not work! Therefore, there are not as many Belarusians in Europe as there are Ukrainians in Italy.
аватар alex45
oresta52. Precisely because you are from Belarus, you, apparently, have such restrictions, we pass.
аватар oresta52
I'm happy for you! Belarus has issued a decree banning the exploitation of the labor of our citizens abroad. Therefore, in order not to leave people in Europe, a stricter approach to the opening of visas. Agencies must recognize when contacting tourists, for what purpose a person goes there.
аватар alex45
A person travels independently, and not through the TA but through the consulate, and the main thing there is whether you have money for
rest, and where do you plan to live and whether you will be homeless and sleep anywhere. And by the way, an invitation
not always a plus, as they say here.
аватар Alfini
The author of the question is from Ukraine, why the hell does he need information about Belarusian decrees? Yes, and in general, what kind of nonsense about the approach to the opening of visas? This policy is determined by the state, whose embassy is represented in the same Belarus, and not by any means by the father's decrees.
sandazh, hassle-free cancellations on Bookin.com, and a large selection of hotels that do not require prepayment.
By the way, France has been very good at opening visas over the past few years, and quickly! within half an hour already a passport with a visa was in hand. Now they have also applied through the visa center, I don’t know, maybe something has changed.
аватар hatinka
Personally, when applying to the consulate of France, Italy, etc., I am very constrained by the mandatory translation of all documents into English / French / other languages. The cost of the transfer is equivalent to 50% of the payment for a cheap hotel in Poland, it turns out ...
Poland used to always be limited to 50% payment.
аватар sandazh
Alfini, thanks for the info! But with the abolition of booking somehow scary. If Poland / Czech Republic demand 100% payment for accommodation, the cancellation of the hotel after obtaining a visa threatens (poo-poo-poo) return from the border (when their police officer calls the hotel for a reservation) or visa cancellation ... I do not understand what embassy is safer to apply
аватар hatinka
sandazh, when booking on the booking site, you do not pay for housing at all, you have a maximum of 1 day blocked on your card, but this is not a payment!
You modicum cancel, modicum there is no, this not very affects. If the consulate, in principle, does not accept reservations without payment, they will not accept this reservation at all.
If the booking reservation is enough for them, then they don’t care either - they blocked your money or not, whether you paid or not ...
You can often cancel a reservation a day before check-in (what with France for any after crossing the border). When you rebook a hotel for better conditions or other dates or another hotel, you also cancel the reservation! So don't worry about cancellation. Most often, even those who go to the booked hotel still cancel this reservation in order to rebook to another, cheaper (non-refundable) rate.
аватар Alfini
"The cost of the transfer is equivalent to 50% of the payment for a cheap hotel in Poland, it turns out ..."
You can translate yourself, absolutely free. Sometimes such pearls come out of the bureau that, it seems, the stupid Google translator does a better job. in extreme cases, you can find "blanks" of translations on the net.
аватар Alfini
sandazh, I would apply in your place in French, and you decide for yourself. If all paperwork is carefully collected and if you are not suspicious or poor unemployed individuals, the rejection rate is minimal.
аватар alex45
And if I know the language, it’s that I have to spend money for the sake of printing, I rented it to Italians, I had no questions.
аватар Pachok
The French consulate definitely accepts ordinary translations, without bureau certification. In Kyiv.
At the bottom, add the phrase:
"translator:
Contact information of the translator:
contact phone number:
Date of translation:
Translation corresponds to the original
(family name) _______________"
аватар anton.vlasov
we are also going to apply to the French in Kyiv. Who filed in the last half a year - as a result? are there any pitfalls?
We are going with my girlfriend - there is no certificate of real estate, the bank account is not very large, we booked through Buckinghuk. But in 2005 she already had French. Schengen, and for the last 5 years I have three Schengen. We are very worried...
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