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Please advise please!!
People, people, good day to all!
I'm flying to Paris for a week in two weeks.
The tour will include two excursions - a sightseeing tour and a walking tour (it seems that it includes either Montmart or the Latin Quarter - unfortunately, I don’t remember exactly .. ashamed). Accordingly, there will be another 3-4 free days (3 - if I take a tour of the Loire Castles ..recommend).
What is the best thing to see for the rest of the day? That is, in principle, I know that, but maybe someone will advise how best to make a route? Or what is worth seeing and what is not - even if everything is advertised in guidebooks? In addition to castles, I don’t want to take excursions from a guide: I don’t like to depend on a group and it’s desirable to be able to freely manage my time, and not “here you have 30 minutes for this”, “here you have 40 minutes for this”, etc.
Thank you all in advance.
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аватар Loki-Agnii
Maybe someone will even "send" to some section where everything is well described. Forgive me if it seems to anyone that I'm asking questions in vain, instead of digging through the forum: I'm not very good at navigating topics, it's easier to create a new one.
аватар larissonn
Be sure to visit the Louvre, Les Invalides. You can go to Versailles yourself. In addition to the castles, I really liked the excursion to Fontainebleau. And if you are traveling with a child, be sure to visit Disneyland. You can get there by metro and train.
аватар Kfhf-2008
And, of course, the Moulin Rouge. The performance is unforgettable.
аватар Loki-Agnii
Dear Larisson!!
Can you write in private? Or by mail - [email protected] if it's convenient for you. Or share it here..
Yes, thanks for the advice. I read about Les Invalides and Versailles - I have a guide to Paris. The only question is what is advertised and how it actually is - often the difference.
To Versailles - yes, I want it myself. I've read that it's not that hard to get there. But can you tell me how you personally went there?
I will be alone, no children, so Disneyland is no longer))
аватар Loki-Agnii
Dear Alex45! Thanks for the link
I read a lot of things, rummaging through the search engine, but the information was not painfully useful - consider what I read in the guidebook.
Maybe someone will share their experience on how to get to one place or another on their own, someone has already been like that, on their own, without a guide?
Personally, I can suggest something about Barcelona, ​​if necessary, or about London (but more about Barça) - guided solely by the experience of independent "running" around the city.
аватар Loki-Agnii
Good evening, Kfhf-2008!!
I also read about the "Red Mill"))
By the way, I also read that there is something like a dress code: at least they don’t let you in tracksuits, but in jeans and blouses, it’s a ride.
The person who shared his impressions wrote that everything seemed to be fine, the prices for drinks seemed to him - I don’t remember whether it’s a little expensive or acceptable .. But the atmosphere itself was somehow invigorating, let’s say, which in some way leveled his dissatisfaction with the performance of the dancers: seemed lazy to move.
Actually, to each his own, right?
By the way, this person booked tickets before departure on the Moulin Rouge website, explained this by the fact that it was cheaper than through guides. Personally, I do not speak enough English or French to do this.
What I really want to visit is the Paris Opera (if anyone remembers The Phantom of the Opera by Gaston Leroux, the action took place there).
BUT the question: how to get there is up in the air for me. Again, I can't handle the Opera site.
аватар larissonn
You can go to Versailles on the yellow RER line - it's like a metro + train or from Montparnasse train station to the station and then by bus straight to the gates of the palace. -10 euros. Only leave for Versailles as early as possible and for the whole day. The complex is huge. Don’t worry about the language, there is a Russian audio guide, and there are a lot of excursion groups of our compatriots. 30 (check with the guide). Very convenient, you wander around the city all day, and in the evening in the museum.
аватар Loki-Agnii
Good evening Larissa!!
Thanks for the tip. About the Louvre h ital in guidebooks, it says about the time of work.
As for Versailles - a fashionable little clarification: for example, if I'm going to go from the Montparnasse station, HOW can I buy a ticket? That is, how to ask so that they understand me? To Versailles station?
And about the bus: just shake people there with a question, BAS VERSAILLES or something like that?
Do you happen to know how often the train runs?
And if you go to the PEP, where does the train stop? And do you have to walk from it or take the bus too?
Sorry for such questions, but I'm a little confused.
I remember when, while in Barca, I went to Montserrat Monastery, I had information about the train departing at 8-15 from the station on Sq. Spain. I arrived early, bought a ticket (I knew which station), but left at 8-05! What I did not know in advance, but I found out by accident.
аватар Loki-Agnii
Is it worth buying a ticket right there and back, or does it matter, you can always buy it without problems?
Of course, I understand the difference between a self-guided tour and a tour with a guide. First of all, in a certain number of times - you are absolutely right, secondly, you are independent in time: where I want, I go there. And I will spend as much time there as I see fit.
If I had walked along the same Barca with a guide, I would not have seen half of what I saw
аватар Loki-Agnii
By the way, I found this information on one site:
If you are interested in the entire complex of Versailles, you can purchase a Forfaits Loisirs combined ticket (you can buy it at the SNCF railway ticket office) "The whole of Versailles + round trip from Paris." Its cost is 21.75 euros (on weekdays) and about 26 euros (on weekends). This is the most profitable option, because a combined ticket to Versailles will “pull” on weekdays for 20 euros, and the fare is 9.70 round trip - 7.30 euros (prices for SNCF trains). On weekends, the ticket is more expensive - 25 euros, therefore, if you want to spend the whole day in Versailles, then this is the best choice.
Larisson, have you heard something about this?
аватар larissonn
We drove from the Montparnasse train station. The Versailles Chantilly stop. You can also walk from the station, but we didn’t know how long to go and took the bus. I don’t remember the number. We drove for 5-7 minutes. We already walked back. -30, bought tickets and almost immediately went. I don’t speak French, I asked the guide to write the name of the station and the name of the palace complex on a piece of paper. I showed this piece of paper. I didn’t know. Don’t be afraid, smile more, say Bonjour and people will help you.
аватар larissonn
I want to add more. Analyzing my trip to Paris - I was the 1st time, I would refuse to tour the castles of the Loire. The trip, of course, is very informative and beautiful there, but it is very long and eats up the lion's share of time. they end at 5 o'clock and you have time to wander around the city in the evening, visit the Moulin Rouge (I recommend) and Grand Orera (I was not there, the guide offered tickets, but I was confused by the price). Paris is so huge and interesting, and I am so much in I didn’t see him. And take thick-soled shoes with you, paving stones are everywhere, I went in ankle boots with thin leather soles, it’s impossible to walk, it’s slippery and painful for my feet, I bought army boots there
аватар Loki-Agnii
Oh, so the guide will tell you everything? It's good..
But then I knew one very harmful guide, he didn’t say anything - he blackmailed, like, take a tour - I’ll say, I haven’t posted a paper about our transfer yet (we were vacationing with a friend in Turkey, just another one left that day from a hotel). We knew everything ourselves.
аватар Loki-Agnii
Larisson, our tour will include two excursions, I don't know the duration. Maybe even before 5 .
And the castles of the Loire were recommended to me as a cool place, so I'm considering this issue.
What do you mean about day trips, can you say?
By the way, thanks for the comments. Supporting))
P/S/ In what sense did the price confuse you? Can you roughly tell how much you were offered the Grand Opera? I really want to go there, but my budget has certain limits, and, as some do, they tinker with websites and book everything in advance (tickets to the Opera, M. Rouge) - this option is not available to me due to lack of knowledge of foreign languages ​​to a sufficient extent.
аватар Loki-Agnii
Another question about the Louvre. How to buy tickets there? As far as I understood from the guidebook, the Louvre is not only an art gallery, but a whole complex, there is a garden.
аватар Loki-Agnii
And a slightly off topic question: how safe is it to ask an outsider to softgraph you?
I remember that in Vienna and Barca I had no problems with this. Somehow I came across decent people who took pictures, and did not try to "steal" the camera (I read about similar cases).
аватар larissonn
Our tour included 2 excursions. 1st sightseeing tour of the city, with a visit to Notre Dame, the Eiffel Tower, the Les Invalides, the Pompadour Center (by bus) and a walking tour of the City. 2nd Montmartre, the Rodin Museum and a walk along the Seine. They lasted up to 5 hours. The guide offered many excursions (already for a fee) from 10 to 18 hours. We chose Fontainebleau from one-day trips and Loire castles for 3 days. You get to the Louvre by metro, buy a ticket and go until closing, everything is simple, everywhere signs and maps. Tickets to the Opera were offered to us for 150 euros, for 2 of them it is very expensive. Guides in Europe are very different from Turkish ones. Feel free to ask everything that interests you and you will always get an answer.
аватар alyabal
We were a youth company (without children), but we got the biggest impression from Disneyland)). Go, you won't regret it!
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