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I have a Polish student Schengen for a year. Need to leave Poland for Greece for more than 90 days
Good afternoon. I have a Polish student Schengen for a year. It is necessary to leave Poland for Greece for more than 90 days.
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аватар staruha_izergil
Apparently, you have a national Polish visa type D. Alas, this visa, although long-term, is subject to the 90/180 restriction, i. you can move throughout the Schengen area for three months every six months. To stay in Greece for more than 90 days, you need to open a Greek national visa. It is national, because only it gives the right to stay in the country for a period longer than 90/180. But since such a visa is issued only for one state, your national Polish one will be canceled.
аватар sp_kushneruk
There is only one answer to "should" in your case: "no". Plus, the situation is affected by your citizenship (passport), status in the host country (which is the reason for the upcoming violation of the deadline). In any case, you need a calm consultation at the consulate of the country in which you intend to violate the current rules. In other cases - to take risks with understandable possible consequences, demonstrating the case of "They let Dunka into Europe." In other words, it started...
аватар kolyan_cat
If you go by bus, then because. through countries that are not members of the Schengen - when returning to Poland, definitely deportation.
But if by plane (direct flight), then there is no visa control within the EU, everything should work out.
аватар staruha_izergil
For remarks like "They let Dunka into Europe" on the well-known tourist portal, they will be banned forever. It is a pity that TurPravda in most cases is too loyal to those who like to hang labels.
аватар staruha_izergil
And why do you, kolyan_cat, incline the young lady to illegal actions? :) You never know what can happen there, in Greece. A person without normal documents. This is wrong.
аватар ollennka
Yes, even here they don’t ban you even for the regular use of a swear word ... But I’m also in favor of not tickling my nerves, but making everything legal and getting a Greek visa for true purposes.
аватар Turist_Rus
When my daughter was studying in Switzerland, she had a residence permit (or something like that) and she rode all over the Schengen as much as she wanted. And she flew to Russia as much as needed. So I don't quite understand what kind of visa we are talking about. But each country in the Schengen zone has its own troubles. The best thing is to go to the website of the embassy / consulate / visa center of Poland and read the detailed information about your visa, if you do not understand - send an email (the address is on the site), everything will be explained to you in detail.
PS. As far as I remember, for Schengen countries, the type D visa is a work visa, the 90/180 rule cannot apply to it.
аватар ollennka
The 90/180 rule is not for the country that issued the visa, but for travel to other Schengen countries. What year did your daughter go to school?
аватар sp_kushneruk
Old woman Izergil: op character and message. The people didn’t have time to look around, and the first thought was: “How would you fool the people (the verb can be used more harshly), bypass the law and, at the same time, pretend to be a naive charmer.” And then the defenders jumped out with questions: "Why don't they ban those who are so intolerant of attempts at violations?!" Yes, one word: an old woman... With appropriate reactions.
аватар Turist_Rus
"The 90/180 rule is not for the country that issued the visa, but for travel to other Schengen countries." (ollennka)
And what, it is possible to check up really? The borders are open, they don't put stamps in your passport... Don't get income where you don't have the right to it, and sleep peacefully :) But why do you need a work visa then?
аватар staruha_izergil
Yes, not "attempted violations are so intolerant"! And they are in a hurry to hang insulting labels. It seemed to me that I pointed out exactly what kind of remark you should have been banned for if the forum was moderated. And yes, I react like an old woman. Cho :))). But I do not intend to discuss further with you, so as not to litter the forum.
аватар ollennka
Turist_Rus, a lot of things in life cannot be checked. A cultured person is different in that he does the right thing, regardless of whether he is tested or not.
аватар Turist_Rus
ollennka, I just assume that European bureaucrats are not as stupid as ours, and do not prohibit what cannot be verified. But if there really is such a norm, then all bureaucrats are smeared with one myrrh.
аватар kolyan_cat
The phrase "The people did not have time to look around" betrays in the commentator a person who did not understand the issue, but is already in a hurry to share his "opinion".
The author of the question - has a visa, respectively, hints at visa-free (if I understand correctly) here, sorry, a bunch in a puddle.
аватар sp_kushneruk
Kolyan from Ukraine: misunderstood. If, in essence, a person asks: “my visa will expire, and you advise me how, being already without permission to stay in the country, to cheat the authorities and “stay” in the country for a period exceeding the allowed one” - what should I call it? It is understandable, for many Ukrainians the solution of the problem formulated by the topic starter will become relevant in the future. But there is a boring and unambiguously formulated law. Asking how to bypass it is a powerful set-up of the site and a demonstration of the naive impudence that the old women love so much. But these are problems of gerontology...
аватар kolyan_cat
Attacks like "for many Ukrainians ... will become relevant" - betrays a person who draws information from the TV in the worst sense of the word, and therefore cannot be taken seriously as an adviser on a site where real tourists communicate with their own experience. Therefore, in a discussion with such a character, I see the point of nothing more than throwing beads in front of certain types of domesticated fauna.
аватар ollennka
Attacks about the exchange of experience of real tourists would be in place if the author of the question was a tourist and asked about tourism.
According to TurPravda, even without a TV, it is clear that many Ukrainians work in the EU (both legally and illegally), why encourage illegal immigrants with your advice?
аватар kolyan_cat
There are whole topics on the forum, about visas, there about the Guarantor, for example, where entire agencies are promoting themselves on providing services for illegal labor migrants, and Olenka seized on my last answer that I gave to insulting hints for Ukrainians.
Those. for seasoned guest workers who go to England and America, it’s quite good to give advice, but it’s impossible for a girl who goes to work to work a little in Greece, being a student.
аватар ollennka
Well, yes, a convenient position - "everyone does it")))
If you are offended by allusions to the illegal labor of Ukrainians in the EU, all the more, why advise you to circumvent the laws when a girl can apply for a work visa legally?
аватар kolyan_cat
These are 2 unrelated topics - the gloating of extrachromosomal people like "let Dunka into Europe" and the topic of this issue. You don't need to mix them.
аватар ollennka
Wow, and the position "let me call my opponent if I don't agree with her" is even more convenient)))).
аватар kolyan_cat
An "opponent" who allows transparent hints aimed at offending a certain nation is not the object with which a normal person should enter into a discussion. And then, insulting the nation (in this case, Ukrainians) is not an "opinion" with which one should agree or not.
аватар ollennka
kolyan_cat, So far you are only insulting and calling names, but you have not answered why you advise the author of the question to violate the visa regime.
аватар kolyan_cat
I'm not in the prosecutor's office to be obliged to answer someone's question, and somehow I don't watch the prosecutor here on the other side of the screen. Moreover, the discussion developed on a different occasion. Therefore, allow me to take my leave, I expressed my opinion and do not intend to succumb to provocations to avoid the topic.
аватар ollennka
I allow you to take a bow, since there is nothing to say on the merits of the issue)))
аватар sp_kushneruk
Dear friends, look what happens. How calmly, constructively, and benevolently the topics developed within the framework of the general theme...! And how such an illegally meaningful scribble changes everything with the style of naivety and the main idea: "how can I break it, and so that everything is fine." But that's okay. This is an indicator of the personal-legal qualities of the topikstarter. The big trouble is "kolyany". With an inner willingness to engage in demagogy, look for the guilty and translate the conversation into the content and style of the Vinnitsa market. Let's return to the communicative qualities that have successfully developed on the site, it will be relevant, useful and pleasant.
аватар marinabondar2
Thank you, the conclusions are made)
By the way, no one was going to break anything ... we are talking about student practice, which can be from 2 to 5 months. So I'm trying to understand, not how to break the law, but how to comply with it.
аватар sp_kushneruk
I am sincerely happy about this. Therefore, if there are good reasons related to the implementation of the curriculum, then not to the site, but to the consulate with documents confirming the practice and the timing of its completion. So will it be right?
аватар kolyan_cat
For those who do not want to notice the beam in their own eyes, I will note that the discussion developed exactly until someone with an extra chromosome posted a remark "" They let Dunka into Europe. In a word, it began ...".
аватар sp_kushneruk
Ek, Kolyan was hooked ... It is understandable - for him this simple formulation takes on a special meaning. Nothing. Kolyans need to get used to it. After all, they really let him in ... And it was Dunka. Or rather, Dunek. The results are not far off.
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