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Coronavirus in Italy, "Accord" does not give money for the tour, withholds a huge fine, who faced, help
Coronavirus in Italy, "Accord" does not give money for the tour, withholds a huge fine, who faced, help
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аватар zolyshka111
It is clear that they will not return, since it is not the chord that cancels the tour, but you want to refuse yourself, which means there will be a fine. Option two, either lose money or go. The third here, alas, is not given.
аватар ollennka
Only the Ministry of Tourism or whatever body in Ukraine is responsible for tourism can help. If there is an official ban on tours to Italy, the money will be returned.
аватар AllOverTheWorld
I have always disliked the chord, my acquaintances abandoned Bali a few years ago, the joins returned the full cost, although at first they got better.
Force majeure should be spelled out in the contract, try contacting a lawyer with a language that would, so to speak, "crush them with authority"
And yes, when is the tour?
I'm also in March in Rome, until I cancel
аватар AllOverTheWorld
Sorry for the blunders ... "week", "show off", "contact"
аватар zolyshka111
No tourist authorities in Ukraine will help in this situation. While there is no official ban on traveling to Italy, no one will cancel tours and, accordingly, money will not be returned either. And it is also impossible to interpret it as force majeure, since you can officially go.
аватар ollennka
And who imposes an official travel ban on you? Not a tourist authority?) Like our Rostourism.
аватар zolyshka111
To be honest, I don’t know who))) I just don’t remember cases when it was forbidden to fly somewhere.
аватар ollennka
That is, you also have tours for sale in Hainan now ?!
аватар zolyshka111
I don’t know, maybe they sell tours, although if someone wants to buy, I think they can buy, but we don’t have official prohibitions, like you have with Egypt. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs simply advises to refrain from going there and there.
аватар ollennka
Yes, I'm more interested in terms of refunding money for vouchers. Somewhere in a nearby thread, someone wrote that the funds for the tour to Hainan were returned to them only after some official decision at the state level. Before that, it was also only with a fine.
аватар zolyshka111
You know, I scored in Google about the office. travel ban to China, did not issue a single link. Yes, and on the news I have not heard about an official ban on travel to China, and indeed anywhere from Ukraine.
аватар ollennka
Not trips, but tours. Well, ok, it doesn’t matter, which means that travel agencies are still expanse.
аватар zolyshka111
So who can forbid a private business to sell tours to countries that are not officially banned from entering? TO will not deny someone the desire to go on vacation to China))) this is a private matter for tourists. As the saying goes, if there is demand, then there is supply. The photo is proof of this. Departures from Kyiv.
аватар camomille
travel agencies themselves decided to stop selling tours
https://joinup.ua/news/komentar-join-up-shhodo-turnennya-turistiv-z-hajnanyu/
there are no conditions for recreation in Hainan now - everything is closed. cafes, shops, tourist sites - nothing works. hotels are constantly disinfected. I wrote in another thread that a neighbor who flew in from there in January told me.
аватар camomille
zolyshka111, and who is that?
аватар zolyshka111
On the other hand, I am more than sure that we also have this virus, so in principle you can go somewhere especially without fear)))
аватар zolyshka111
But xs))) is not specified. Maybe a lure, this is a photo from the site of my TA. Let the agents answer this question better, I won’t tell you here.
аватар zolyshka111
On vacation with a departure on 13.04 there are tours at the joint. Again, whether it is possible to buy them and whether there will be a flight, I don’t know.
аватар alex45
That's just talking to TA. The group flew on a cruise from Genoa. My friend flew.
There are no official restrictions on coronavirus restrictions. At the discretion of customers. "You can go, you can not go! " Under the agreement with the appropriate sanctions. Your refusal! "So far. But in addition to the cruise, more hotels, flights!
In short, saving the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves. In Ukrainian - "How lucky! "
аватар lazy_person
Miraslava13.07
If you terminate the Agreement with the travel agency, t / a "Accord" will comply with the terms of the Agreement, will deduct money from you according to the scheme, as prescribed there.
A different situation is possible only if the government decides to oblige TO to accept refusals from tourists returning Tours due to the epidemic, with the return of 100% of their contributions.
This practice took place in the Russian Federation. In Ukraine, so far, in relation to the tourism business and, in particular, to Italy, such a decision has not been made. You yourself refuse the Tour, you yourself bear the losses ..
аватар moy_contakt
I wrote in another thread and here I repeat that the caronovirus is no worse than an ordinary sore, since complications with any SARS can lead to any, including deaths. All of western Ukraine has been quarantined for more than a month (who started earlier, who later) and no one found out what they are sick with. The question is why panic is inflated, who needs it ....
аватар Apyatka
my_contact
You are a doctor?
аватар Vika284
moy_contakt Did your epidemiologist friend tell you how ARVI and coronavirus differ or do not differ? Or what is coronavirus?
Zhytomyr, Kirovograd and Sumy regions where a serious H1N1 epidemic is not quite western Ukraine, except perhaps Zhytomyr west of Kyiv
аватар moy_contakt
Apyatka, In total cases of infection were found in 17 countries. Total number of infected people: 478. Most cases of infection in Italy: 400 people (here it is important to note that in Italy the most people have been tested for the virus!). Death toll: 14 people (12 - Italy, 2 - France)
Comment by Walter Riccardi of the World Health Organization (OMS): "Of 100 cases, 80 spontaneously recover, 15 have serious health problems, but these are problems that can be controlled in a hospital, another 5% are in serious condition, and of these five 3% are at risk of death. Among other things, we must remember that all the dead had serious health problems.
In short, on average, about 200 people die from the flu every year, and up to 8,000 people from its complications (according to official information, it is quite difficult to thoroughly determine
аватар moy_contakt
the cause of death, the virus itself or the complications it caused). The maximum risk is people of mature age 70+.
аватар moy_contakt
Vika284, I'm not a doctor or a biologist. my goal is not to find out how ARVI differs from caronovirus and so on. I was primarily interested in the threat (the above is the official statistics, where you can see that there is no such threat or it does not exceed the threat from any other sores that we get sick every year from which we also have% mortality. Perhaps because I am not a doctor, I do not use SARS correctly everywhere , ARI, caronovirus (I'm not a doctor), but the bottom line is that there are more serious diseases both in terms of course and complications and with a higher percentage of mortality. Here they should be afraid (the same tuberculosis in different stages is much more dangerous and we really they get sick and I know people who did not even suspect that they were sick until they made a flurry (they gathered in the pool).
аватар ollennka
Coronavirus! Well, how much can you???
аватар agent_borabora
How can advisers help here?
аватар veritasana
https://mfa.gov.ua/tag/poradi-podorozhuyuchim
Recommendations of the MZS ... In Italy, Korea, Japan ..
аватар Apyatka
Undoubtedly, there are more terrible diseases in the world. This does nothing to reduce the risk of the new coronavirus. Coronavirus belongs to the group of acute viral infections and can be called SARS. But coronaviruses are different. Let's just say it's the common name for a family of viruses. Specifically, COVID-19 has a high contact and often causes pneumonia. Viral pneumonia is extremely difficult to treat. And under the abbreviation ARVI, we mean the common cold, which we treat at home with viburnum-raspberry. Pneumonia in the case of a banal ARVI happens, but they are caused by an attached bacterial infection. They are rare, and such pneumonia is treated much easier. That's the whole difference.
What is the danger of the spread of infections that cause viral pneumonia? The fact that when a large number of people are affected by the virus, there are simply not enough resources to provide everyone with high-quality medical care. The Chinese are still coping poorly, they are highly organized, like ants. And we won't make it.
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