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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар Pachok
Risk groups should not be contrasted with those who cannot live without work, manicures and civil liberties. These are the same people.
аватар mishatour
Pachok, I completely agree ... It's just that someone is saying that a manicure is around the corner, and the crown is in America)
аватар sigur62
It is not very clear for what purpose the respected Israeli expert Misha created this topic.
For twelve pages already, he furiously proves to us that the corlnavirus is deadly. So no one really refutes this.
People are just trying to convey the idea that Russia and Ukraine are not the countries where you can sit at home for months, and for most of our people it is much more terrible to lose their jobs, housing and all their savings than to die from some kind of virus.
Stop hype.
Most countries are coming out of this general madness and returning to normal.
In my Vyborg, almost everyone works, including the huge Shipyard.
And yes, people here do not hysteria about viruses, but they do not recklessly ignore the recommendations of doctors: they walk along the streets and parks, when they meet, they disperse on different sides of the road, and talk while standing at a decent distance from each other.
Singing songs from balconies and lifting food on a rope through the window is not about us)))
аватар ollennka
Pachok, but no one opposes, do not distort. Isolate risk groups, let the rest live a normal life, and not starve. And don't sacrifice one for the other. The manicurist and your children have the same right to life as pensioners and that girl in intensive care.
Sigur62, It's also strange to me that the admin has not yet deleted it. Explicit offtopic in the questions section, more for a forum topic.
аватар Pachok
And you didn't understand. Or you pretend :) These are literally the same people - both the manicurist at risk, and her children, and everyone else, except for those who are tightly seated at home. All groups of the population get sick, among all there are serious cases, among all - deaths.
аватар mishatour
sigur62, but you never answered the question) And I will answer. I raised this issue for two reasons. 1 Corona and tourism are unfortunately inseparable. 2 I think that first-hand information is more valuable than YouTube videos .... People express what is happening in their environment and this is reliable and valuable information. If I read on the Internet that hospitals in Minsk are full, and my doctor friend says that they are empty. Then I trust a friend. In no case am I trying to escalate the situation, and all the more proud of the achievements of Israel. The economy is dead, people take to the streets, there are cases of suicide. Each country takes action to the best of its ability. ..But even the capabilities of America and the far from poor north of Italy ... due to wrong decisions, they instilled in mass casualties
аватар Vika284
We all wish and hope that the girl with coronavirus in intensive care will recover. We also wish health and full recovery to all other children who are in intensive care from other diseases, not only in Israel, Russia and Ukraine, but all over the world.
аватар mishatour
And now about Lukashenka. By the way, I respected him very much to the crown. But to laugh in the face of the whole world and make a fool out of yourself ... this is nonsense and weakness !!! Keep going to churches, stadiums and parades....it's a crime!!! Yesterday, by the way, I came across information that 23 Belarusian hockey players with a crown. Olya, if it is important for you where this topic is discussed, contact the administrator. The topic of illegal workers in Israel, you discussed both in forums and in questions. With the slogan "in Israel, the light did not converge like a wedge." I propose not to get personal and reproaches, but to respect the opinion of everyone ..t. It is impossible to be right today.
аватар ollennka
mishatour, well, you’re all in a bunch, what does my dislike for Israel as a tourist destination have to do with it?)) It doesn’t matter to me where to discuss it, it’s just strange that it doesn’t matter to the admin.
By the way, Lukashenka does not drag anyone to matches and in the church. If a person wants to reduce the likelihood of infection, he stays at home. This is self-isolation, and not what we call it.
аватар camomille
"Lukashenko does not drag anyone to matches and in church"
he drags on Saturday
аватар Olgaolga153
And I think that the question is relevant and relevant both in the "forum" section, where, by the way, not everyone goes, and here. Why would you want to remove it. I, like mishatour, are interested in knowing the opinion of people living in different countries, so to speak, "news from the fields." I am sure that the official figures of the sick / dead are understating, (judging by my region). No one is being forced here. Not satisfied with the question - you can pass by.
аватар Olgaolga153
Damn, have we introduced a limit on likes? You can put the first one, and then figs to you, like, on this page you have already identified yourself.))
аватар Olgaolga153
About subbotnik + 100.
About religion. My opinion. Churches, as well as malls, as well as other crowded places, were supposed to be closed by default.
аватар ollennka
))) Yes, it drags you to a subbotnik, this is a correct comment. This is where masks and a distance of 2 meters will come in handy.
I personally have had a problem with likes for two years, I have already given up on this matter.
аватар mishatour
They are fixated on Lukashenka, probably hiccuping the poor)). Just .. Minsk is my homeland and this character is very familiar to me. Maybe I don’t understand something, but Putin has banned all extras, Eurovision, the OLYMPIC GAMES have been canceled .... but the parade and the football championship in Belarus have not been canceled. Or in order to cancel mass gatherings, money is also needed ??? About self-isolation ... it is for those who have a suspicion of carona !!! He returned from abroad, communicated with the infected .... That is, this person poses a danger to others for 14 days and he must be isolated. If a healthy person decides to sit at home for 14 days., The efficiency from this is ZERO. The result is only if everything is together from and to ... in districts of cities ... Olya, or do you propose self-isolation until better times ??))
аватар ollennka
mishatour, all together for two weeks - it's a great idea, but it's a utopia. People need to eat, sow fields, clean up garbage, milk cows, put out fires, treat the sick, including animals, clean clogged toilets, after all. Measure is important in everything.
It seems to me that in Russia the right balance of freedom and security was around March 25: everyone who could be transferred to remote work worked from home, significantly unloading mass crowds (transport and stuffy offices). Tourists from abroad have been isolated for two weeks. The older generation was given sick leave by phone. From then on, the marginal utility of antiviral measures only declined. Nobody got better from losing a job. And the loading of offices and transport has not decreased since the beginning of the quarantine. I don’t see the point in talking about the street and parks that haunt poor Sobyanin. The distance between people there is more than two meters, and it is almost impossible to get infected with airborne droplets.
аватар mishatour
Olya, if the power of one of the mentioned rulers was under threat ..... then the utopia would turn into reality within 24 hours) I'm already afraid to express my thoughts))) Otherwise, they will say a respected Israeli expert stirs up water ...)) ) I would like everything to be fine for everyone, so that in all countries everything goes with the least losses. Personally, I am interested in this no less than the inhabitants of these countries. It’s just that the current situation is directly related to my work, and if it’s bad for you, it will be bad for me too.
аватар camomille
if anyone is interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRJhABSQwTo
couple living in Antalya talk about vacation in Turkey 2020
аватар camomille
24/05 allow domestic tourism
only large hotels will open, as the load should be 50%
small hotels will not open
sun loungers on the beach with respect for the distance
food - portioned, a la carte
staff in masks and gloves, possibly on a rotational basis 14/14
disinfection after the departure of tourists
hotels ordered to increase staff
excursions, group trips on yachts, foam parties are prohibited
hotel cleanliness certification
etc.
What they are talking about is not rest. this is creepy...
waiting for ticket prices to rise
аватар camomille
50% load is the maximum
moving sun loungers, even if the family is resting, is prohibited
аватар ollennka
Mmm, and the idea with the distance between the sun loungers is not so bad).
аватар camomille
I don't know if we'll be able to get somewhere on vacation this year in October...
but if the borders are opened and the rest of the tickets are not canceled, then I'm leaning towards apartments in some village near Athens
аватар ollennka
The Greeks, it seems, are preparing to open the season in the summer. So there are chances.
аватар camomille
Greeks and Portuguese
аватар Slav_na
on this topic:
for a month of being in Russia, the analysis was done for the second time. on the first one upon arrival from Ukraine, the second - last Friday (flying to another city). is free
аватар Pachok
Yes, what a horror! It's great :) Less people, more staff, and no one on the beach climbs on their heads!!! Cleanliness and disinfection! A la carte! There are no discos and parties, which means silence and grace. Yes, this is a dream :) At this rate, you see, Turkey will again become what it was before 2002.
аватар ollennka
YaSlavnaYa, and what does this test look like? How long to wait for the result?
аватар Slav_na
And I would go to such Turkey. silence all around, no one yells closer than 1.5 m, servants are like mosquitoes in Egypt, purely ... is it really a la carte after the Olink ...)))
аватар camomille
Well, I don’t know ... I got the impression of some kind of hospital
аватар Slav_na
ollennka,
smears from the mouth and nose, deep. the first time we were immediately warned not to wait for a call if everything was fine. in the second - they will call tomorrow anyway
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