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answered 4 years ago
I absolutely agree that in Ukraine, especially in the Carpathians with their workers, it is very easy to catch covid, and then imagine the level of local hospitals, many of which have generally been reduced for various reasons. I won’t say anything about Odessa at all. There, even without covid, there is enough infection on every corner.
So if you go to the hospital, it is better abroad. In Egypt, even the hospitals are more decent.
So if you go to the hospital, it is better abroad. In Egypt, even the hospitals are more decent.
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answered 4 years ago
Egypt, by the way, announced that it was heading for the winter season. There will be no opening in the summer for foreign tourists, as the epidemiological situation does not allow. It is worse than in Greece and Turkey. The season is planned from October. Maybe sooner if the situation changes.
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answered 4 years ago
YaSlavnaYa, how are you feeling? I hope you will forgive me for the personal question.
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answered 4 years ago
Marsyanchik,
We feel wonderful, which is what we all wish. Tomorrow we are doing another test - and we really hope that it will be negative
We feel wonderful, which is what we all wish. Tomorrow we are doing another test - and we really hope that it will be negative
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answered 4 years ago
I have 84 apartments at the entrance to Kyiv. Kyiv is the leader in the number of cases in Ukraine
Why it is safer than a separate house in the Carpathians is not very clear to me. No one is going to hug migrant workers or go to local canteens. I have not heard of cases of infection in the forest.
But you're right - still dumb. I have no alternative thoughts on where to put the child for three summer months.
As for the comparison with "abroad" - so I'm not against it. If not for planes and airports, and transfers (taxi). Not hotels represent the main danger. You can get to the Carpathians by car, and not breathe the same air with 140 people on a plane, even if they are wearing muzzles. Temperature measurements - "circus on a dart". Absolutely everyone knows that the main peddlers are asymptomatic, and they still stupidly stick these non-contact thermometers, which, moreover, lie. Express tests from the same series. By the time the test shows, the person has been contagious for 5-7 days.
About Odessa and our other yugas, like, there was no talk?
Why it is safer than a separate house in the Carpathians is not very clear to me. No one is going to hug migrant workers or go to local canteens. I have not heard of cases of infection in the forest.
But you're right - still dumb. I have no alternative thoughts on where to put the child for three summer months.
As for the comparison with "abroad" - so I'm not against it. If not for planes and airports, and transfers (taxi). Not hotels represent the main danger. You can get to the Carpathians by car, and not breathe the same air with 140 people on a plane, even if they are wearing muzzles. Temperature measurements - "circus on a dart". Absolutely everyone knows that the main peddlers are asymptomatic, and they still stupidly stick these non-contact thermometers, which, moreover, lie. Express tests from the same series. By the time the test shows, the person has been contagious for 5-7 days.
About Odessa and our other yugas, like, there was no talk?
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answered 4 years ago
Today we are sitting at a meeting, one of the employees keeps the mask on his chin. I ask him not to mess around, I am at risk and I do not have antibodies (still not). He tells me that in Sweden there is no quarantine at all, but my glasses fog up.
After the meeting, google Sweden:
“Sweden’s experiment with the country’s openness to form extended national immunity to SARS-CoV-2 has failed. Most of the tested citizens do not have antibodies in the body. At the same time, the country is in the unattainable leaders among all neighbors in Northern Europe both in terms of the number of cases and the number of deaths :
- Sweden 41883 cases of infection, 4562 people died, - 10.9% of the number of cases, or 45 deaths per 100 thousand population.
- Finland 6,911 patients, 322 deaths - 4.7% of cases, 5.8 people. per 100 thousand population;
- Norway 8,488 patients, 238 deaths - 2.8% of cases, 4.5 per 100 thousand;
- Denmark 11,811 patients, 582 deaths - 4.9% of cases, 10.1 per 100 thousand.
I have a question - okay there we get sick
After the meeting, google Sweden:
“Sweden’s experiment with the country’s openness to form extended national immunity to SARS-CoV-2 has failed. Most of the tested citizens do not have antibodies in the body. At the same time, the country is in the unattainable leaders among all neighbors in Northern Europe both in terms of the number of cases and the number of deaths :
- Sweden 41883 cases of infection, 4562 people died, - 10.9% of the number of cases, or 45 deaths per 100 thousand population.
- Finland 6,911 patients, 322 deaths - 4.7% of cases, 5.8 people. per 100 thousand population;
- Norway 8,488 patients, 238 deaths - 2.8% of cases, 4.5 per 100 thousand;
- Denmark 11,811 patients, 582 deaths - 4.9% of cases, 10.1 per 100 thousand.
I have a question - okay there we get sick
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answered 4 years ago
My question is - okay, there is more morbidity, but why mortality?
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answered 4 years ago
I will answer with the words "Nothing personal, it's just business." Remember what the EU promised to countries with high mortality.
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answered 4 years ago
Pachok, here is also the question - or our Carpathians, but very cruel, forest - a tent for a month. Or Greece by car and we are still looking there
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answered 4 years ago
Apyatka, the post below killed. And so thinks (really????) the majority
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answered 4 years ago
Look at the statistics of countries on mortality, and look at the economy of the EU directive, and then you will understand why mortality is so in some and different in others. Pure knowledge of economics and all. I think in our country they would have done the same if they had been promised several hundred mulberries of eurekas.
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answered 4 years ago
Yes, and about quarantine or not quarantine, read how much a human life costs, again in the works of economists, and then you will understand why certain countries advocate the removal of quarantine or do not introduce it. I will answer cynically, human life is not expensive, and even in medical statistics, (again, all the same social honey, though I studied at the ruble "rates", but it does not particularly affect the speed)
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answered 4 years ago
pachok,
Why is your own apartment safer than someone else's house in the Carpathians? Honestly, I don't even know what to answer. maybe because at home you yourself clean-wash-disinfect everything. and how they did it in the house ... and who ...
you can get there by car - it's easier for you! but on the way there are gas stations, stores of this seter, where, again, people are people ...
God forbid, I do not dissuade anyone - everyone chooses for themselves. but my husband is sitting on the next sofa with a "+" test - and for some reason I'm scared ...
Why is your own apartment safer than someone else's house in the Carpathians? Honestly, I don't even know what to answer. maybe because at home you yourself clean-wash-disinfect everything. and how they did it in the house ... and who ...
you can get there by car - it's easier for you! but on the way there are gas stations, stores of this seter, where, again, people are people ...
God forbid, I do not dissuade anyone - everyone chooses for themselves. but my husband is sitting on the next sofa with a "+" test - and for some reason I'm scared ...
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answered 4 years ago
Apyatka, the post below killed. And so thinks (really????) the majority
I did not get that. Which post is below?
I did not get that. Which post is below?
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answered 4 years ago
I will answer with the words "Nothing personal, it's just business ". Remember what was promised in the EU to countries with high mortality.
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- Yes, and because of this business I did not sleep today, resuscitation of two so far, thank God, turned out. It is clear that many people are confused about this case, but what is really happening in our country is very bad. And these words - "Look at the statistics of countries on mortality, and look at the economy of the EU directive, and then you will understand why mortality is so in some and different in others." Pure knowledge of economics and all. I think in our country they would have done the same if they had been promised several hundred mulberries of eurekas. "- reflect the desire to go to work the day after tomorrow (change)
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- Yes, and because of this business I did not sleep today, resuscitation of two so far, thank God, turned out. It is clear that many people are confused about this case, but what is really happening in our country is very bad. And these words - "Look at the statistics of countries on mortality, and look at the economy of the EU directive, and then you will understand why mortality is so in some and different in others." Pure knowledge of economics and all. I think in our country they would have done the same if they had been promised several hundred mulberries of eurekas. "- reflect the desire to go to work the day after tomorrow (change)
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answered 4 years ago
so I told those who have not yet retired to my friends, on March 12, "You will not have any Shanovni" from this swarm ....." and advised to retire or quit or immediately go on sick leave and then leave, so as not to strain So coming to replace there, if my memory is not mistaken, I didn’t look at the time for sleep, though it was like that in the 2000s when I also worked in a hospital with young enthusiasm.
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answered 4 years ago
YaSlavnaYa why are you scared? You wrote that the tests are positive, you feel good. Or not? If I were you, I would be happy - for some time you will have antibodies, you can generally relax.
I am not comparing an apartment with a house, but our apartment building with a house. We do not sit around in the apartment, any trip to the street is a potential contact with 200+ people in our porch. Gas stations ... well, I have nothing to say here :))) We already refuel in Kyiv and we refuel, and we don’t hang out with people at gas stations :)
About cleaning and disinfection - the virus is transmitted by airborne droplets, it does not remain on surfaces, according to the latest German data. And I somehow trust the Germans more than the WHO, which has discredited itself to the very end.
I am not comparing an apartment with a house, but our apartment building with a house. We do not sit around in the apartment, any trip to the street is a potential contact with 200+ people in our porch. Gas stations ... well, I have nothing to say here :))) We already refuel in Kyiv and we refuel, and we don’t hang out with people at gas stations :)
About cleaning and disinfection - the virus is transmitted by airborne droplets, it does not remain on surfaces, according to the latest German data. And I somehow trust the Germans more than the WHO, which has discredited itself to the very end.
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answered 4 years ago
It seems to me that the high mortality hints at the fact that the country has a low detection rate.
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answered 4 years ago
+ 100. We only test those who stubbornly apply, the rest are sitting at home, whoever is lucky. When it’s already critical, go ahead for the test and go to the hospital. There are very few tests in the country. And in the regions it is not distributed fairly at all. Here we have what we have. And, in fact, we multiply several times
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answered 4 years ago
Personally, in our clinic, in order to test, it takes a long time to prove that my patient needs it. So go to a paid laboratory and exactly the one that is advised. We test only very difficult ones after X-ray. These are our realities. We live one day
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answered 4 years ago
At one time, Mr. Lyashko honestly answered that they had no money for the test, so I just don't remember such testing on any channel, either "live" or "Channel 5". I literally do not remember such nonsense. And about how to think earlier it was written that doctors do not miss :) social media according to the formula will list without problems what and how much.
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and what to understand there is a formula for calculating the indicator of patients per population, so you need to use it and that's it. Who remembers the subject "Social medicine and organization of healthcare" (in "bird" is called social medicine), then having the initial data, it is not a problem to calculate real indicators. from
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answered 4 years ago
So it's all clear and for a long time! It's about the fact that we don't do tests. Today's - even !!! -16 793 together with ELISA (I personally am a little against such a calculation) - - a drop in the ocean
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answered 4 years ago
I must have been walking. But .. what to count? Coronavirus according to the flu formula?
Count Anu to us, if you have not been truant.
Count Anu to us, if you have not been truant.
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