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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар kultvideo
yeah, not sure what to do. statistics say one thing, tour operators another ... but meanwhile, I really want to relax at sea ... especially after this home imprisonment
аватар mishatour
Yes, people are tired, and most importantly, there is no "tomorrow". Apyatka, you have a job and this is not enough today). I want to go to the sea!! Only for noisy, cheerful, with splashes of water and children's laughter, but I don’t feel like wearing masks. I see the sea from the window, but somehow it’s not comfortable there ... therefore, more often from the window) In Israel, resorts open hotels for locals. Occupancy in the area 80%. There is no talk of opening the sky, I would have to deal with my crown) All optimism and good mood ...
аватар mishatour
kultvideo, statistics usually say what the customer asks for it, and the tour operator says ... you know what). And you and I need to look at the big picture and analyze it .. With regard to recreation and tourism ... everything is very simple (I decided for myself) as soon as the heads of state begin to shake hands, and businessmen fly on business trips ... I will start to "lubricate skiing"
аватар Sergey_7979
In the context of today's record for new cases of coronavirus, I don’t even know how to react to this:
https://censor.net.ua/news/3204518/ukrainu_vnesli_v_spisok_stran_iz_kotoryh_hotyat_razreshit_v ezd_v_es_smi
аватар nataha33
Today the lists of the "red zone" have been updated. Now Egypt has also got there, there have been almost 3,000 cases there over the past day. So after arriving in Ukraine from Egypt, you will have to undergo self-isolation / observation, if the situation does not improve. (((
аватар moy_contakt
Information on zones is updated 1 time in 3 days. Egypt has a very marginal value (40 people per 100 thousand of the population), and now they have begun to reduce the statistics. They have every chance to move into the green zone. Well, now they are still deciding on tourism, since Egypt has closed the resort areas that will receive tourists for the local population. And those who are in this territory once a week pass the test. Sinai Postrov is considered a clean zone and I really hope that they will decide to arrive without an observation or tests (one of two can be).
аватар dusik1981
Sergey_7979
And everything is simple, the EU refers to the "green zone" according to such parameters
- the presence of patients is not more than 16-20 per 100 thousand
-Having more tests done
-honest statistics ("those who don't have" a big hello, they are in an emergency)
and if one of the parameters is not met, the country moves to the "other zone"
аватар Slav_na
... I am very sorry that we are not like that (s)
аватар veritasana
nataha33 ..and test upon arrival..also waiting..
аватар Pachok
What's wrong with a test? This is not "vaccine chipping" :))))))
аватар Apyatka
Yesterday the first tourists flew to Albania.
They measure the temperature at the entrance to the airport (Zhulyany) in Ukraine. But at the airport there is no distance, everyone is in a bunch, everyone is wearing masks.
In Albania, even the temperature was not measured. But some kind of antiseptic is sprayed at the airport, you need to go through it. Some interesting method of disinfection.
Help is not needed. Analyzes were not done.
аватар camomille
from twitter:
Second wave in Israel
Today there are three times (!) more active patients than a month ago.
The number of deaths reached 317 people. The young patient herself, aged 19, died today. A government meeting is scheduled for tomorrow on the issue of returning to restrictions and quarantine.
аватар chlebnicova
Are PLR ​​tests forced on arrival from Egypt?
аватар kostalex1980
In Egypt, upon arrival, you do not need to do tests, they only measure the temperature constantly and everywhere!
аватар makarenchik
And sit for 14 days in self-isolation after leaving Egypt.
аватар kostalex1980
You can take a test, then you won’t have to sit, but you will also need to add the cost of tests to the cost of the trip
аватар mishatour
camomille, yes, everything was written correctly about Israel ... The second wave, and how many there should be) It is consoling that the infected are mostly young (9% only aged 60+). During the first wave it was 25% aged 60+. The number of seriously ill patients and those connected to mechanical ventilation is practically not growing, and this is encouraging. 317 people have died TOTAL from corona in Israel. I already cited the conclusions of one Italian doctor that the virus turned from a "tiger" into a "poodle") Time will tell, but so far it looks like the Italian is right.
аватар Pachok
You know, this is a very ambiguous situation. Young people are now getting sick, and the number of seriously ill patients on mechanical ventilation is just NOT GROWING, although it should decrease. Those. in fact, young people are now also seriously ill.
аватар moy_contakt
Pachok, alas, but among the young there are also quite a few chronics, cancer patients and simply patients with various sores, both hostile and acquired. Any sore, not only covid, for such may be the last.
аватар mishatour
And yet .. I'm not an expert, but there are theories that are confirmed by life, and these theories seem correct to me). So, infected and sick are two different things!! In a year, we may all be infected but not sick. Our body adapts to the virus .... If today we check any of us for viruses and various infections in the body, then we should have died yesterday). But this does not happen ... sometimes we feel tired, weak, headache ... and after a couple of days everything goes away. I think that today dry statistics with CoViD-19 does not work. It is necessary to analyze who got sick, how the disease passes .... and the consequences (mortality). I think the whole world will come to this soon ... and will live with this for several years until a vaccine is received.
аватар Apyatka
How difficult it is to live when you are at risk) Then they will say - so she was over 50 and a lot of sores. She wasn't a resident anyway.
But, damn it, before the virus, millions of people with sores lived and did not grieve. And they weren't going to die!
My task, as a person at risk, is to wait until the virus weakens so much that patients do not need ventilators or until a vaccine is found.
Today I went to work.
I was at home for 4 months, working remotely. The management, with an eye on the infection, allowed me to appear in the clinic in extreme cases and not work with the biomaterial.
But the lafa is over.
Now I work with biomaterial, that is, today, this is a high-risk job.
Still shooting took place today, I rubbed myself there, filmed backstage.
All are wearing masks.
What I want to say. People no longer believe in danger. Even doctors. Especially the leadership
Although the masks are not removed, but the general mood - how all this is already all sick of it.
Some immortals even enter the red zone without protection.
аватар moy_contakt
Apyatka, you shouldn’t blame covid, you have always been and will be at risk without it (I don’t know what kind of disease you have, but if you think so, then apparently it is so). Why are you so obsessed with him. You could always get the complications of interruptions or flu, or something else even without covid. Why do you think that covid is just so formidable to you ??? Do not cycle, live and enjoy life. God has his own scenario for each of us and you will recognize it in fact and not the fact that it is covid that will cause your problems. Wherever such a topic is touched upon, you are trying to prove something. Yes, you are a doctor, but such an alarmist. I would tell you the story of a former mother-in-law who, being a doctor, professor, lecturing, advising the most difficult cases, ruined her own husband. Just because she's a doctor. She sobbed in the cemetery and cursed everyone and everything, including herself, because he could live and die from something completely different from what she really put him in for an operation, believing that this was the only way she would save him ..
аватар Apyatka
"Wherever a similar topic is touched upon, you are trying to prove something"
What do you have to prove? You already wrote me off.
Do you think I'm an alarmist and my song is sung)
аватар Pachok
moy_contakt, error :) Among the young, there cannot be as many chronic patients, people with oncology and various pathologies as among the elderly and old people. And the covid statistics are no longer in their favor, according to what was written above about Israel. And for some reason I believe in Israel.
аватар Pachok
moy_contakt, error :) Among the young, there cannot be as many chronic patients, people with oncology and various pathologies as among the elderly and old people. And the covid statistics are no longer in their favor, according to what was written above about Israel. And for some reason I believe in Israel.
аватар Pachok
And the reasoning about who was destined or not destined to die "and so" personally makes me simply horrified. The horror of how quickly the husk of supposedly humanism and the supposed value of every life flies off people, and how easily they begin to scatter the lives and health of everyone who is unlucky. Moreover, here it is no longer even necessary to specify what exactly was unlucky, since absolutely any person, even young and healthy, can become a victim.
аватар moy_contakt
Pachok, a long-proven fact that now healthy children are rarely born and this is due to many factors (ecology, preservation of pregnancies, etc.) and, as doctors say, a conditionally healthy generation, among which it is difficult to find health. Everyone has their own problems, some have more, some have less. I won’t speak for Israel, the medicine there is better than ours, but almost everyone has problems and find a child who wouldn’t have any problems .... Well, with the older generation, there are even more of them, respectively. So let's not talk about health, there is really little of it left. And the fact that oncology in children is not enough and the indicators are increasing, and diabetes, but it’s a problem with the lungs, I’m silent about everyone’s allergies, and other problems.
аватар Slav_na
There cannot be as many chronically ill among young people ===
looking at today's youth, I am convinced that they are for the most part much weaker and more sickly than us at their age. and we are weaker and more painful than our parents. perhaps because we were still lucky with the natural product - I don’t know
opinions and observations are personal, I do not impose on anyone. if it doesn't match yours, maybe you are right )))
аватар Pachok
I didn't say there were no problems. I wrote that the elderly have incomparably more of these diseases.
And my acquaintance, a middle-aged man, absolutely healthy, who undergoes medical examinations every year because of a profession in which patients are not taken, almost threw away the skates from covid.
аватар moy_contakt
Pachok, and I know a person who, at the age of 14, remained as a result of an operation with half a lung on one side and 2/3 on the other, and had been ill like with a regular flu, no harder, no easier. She was really hospitalized, because her doctor who treated her since the time of the operation was nasyoyal, but somehow everything worked out, and in addition to that, she is also allergic (she doesn’t go out without a drug) and many other problems, and that’s pah pah. This is my husband's sister, so I know better than anyone all her troubles. At the moment she is 43 ... so it's someone of that kind, as they say. But she is at risk, and her work is such that she did not sit in quarantine, but worked with people.
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