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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар Apyatka
I don’t know how comforting the idea that covid is not dangerous for healthy people can be, if everyone understands that there are very few healthy people on the planet.
Moreover, this idea is erroneous, why it is promoted, I do not understand.
But this - "you are not a tenant anyway" - this is generally some kind of fascist. Especially coupled with accusations of alarmism. Sounds like "you won't get hurt"
No need to panic, you already have one foot in the grave)
аватар Pachok
moy_contakt Your example only confirms that a severe course and a lethal outcome are a matter of chance, and not of belonging to a group of young and (or) healthy people.
Apyatka, I completely agree with the wording "fascism". Moreover, such a rush from quite outwardly normal people ....
аватар moy_contakt
Apyatka, where did I write about the grave???? The fact that you panic breeds, yes. The fact that only the Lord God knows who, when and from what, was cited as an example by a relative with direct indications to "throw back her legs", but who successfully endured the sore. What kind of fascism are you talking about???? I realized a long time ago that the more you know, the worse you sleep, and in your case it also seems to work.
аватар dusik1981
And why don't you read the research of some institutes about viruses and temperature, and then you will understand what and how. Briefly, the virus dies at temperatures above 30 degrees at a constant temperature, it has been proven in practice, but I don’t remember where things were in Nigeria or Chad. So, in poor areas where there are no air conditioners, there is practically no virus, and where there is, it rises at times, in general, when temperatures drop, the virus acts like all viruses., That is, it waits for favorable conditions. Therefore, the more prosperous the country, the higher the number of patients it about hot countries.
аватар dusik1981
The fact that the patient is dying is normal, doctors, like other professions, have their own professional deformation, but for some reason people do not want to understand that for doctors, a person is like a log for a carpenter. That's all. And about our country, about the type of indicators, open the law on elections, then ask the "family members" what kind of C.U. they received. with what symptoms to send for testing and compare with what happened in April, Vitaliy Denisyuk described everything well, well, there is an article on the Ukrainian truth. Well, "cherry" look at the test transfer certificates (transfer invoices) and compare the series. And then draw conclusions. But this is not the topic of the tour forum))
аватар Pachok
sorry...especially Ebola is dying in Nigeria...itself.
A person 36.6 is normal, the virus "should die", do not carry a blizzard.
аватар dusik1981
Teach microbiology and virology, then we will discuss it, after the states pass these subjects, otherwise the "couch experts" yesterday are politicians, today doctors, tomorrow who, given the situation in the country, bankers? Anyway, keep reading...
аватар Apyatka
dusik1981
Kapets how deformed you))
аватар mishatour
Dear dusik1981, maybe you are a professional ... in relation to other participants in the discussion. But with confidence (not anything personal) I can say that you do not know anything about the "crown" !!! I say this with confidence, because no one in the world knows about it today !!!. We just discuss sore points ... and everyone shares their opinions ... That's when it's all over ... there will be many "scientists" who will write dissertations ... And we will listen to you, tell us where the whole world was wrong ... and what was wrong . In the meantime, let's respect the opinions of others and do not forget that this is a travel forum, not a scientific symposium.
аватар mishatour
moy_contakt, we talked about Egypt.... And then they answered with a smile.... don't worry, I checked everything. It turns out not all. And it's not possible to check everything from a distance ..
аватар moy_contakt
Mishatour, remind me what exactly I did not check? :) everything I needed, I found, learned, and so on.
аватар mishatour
mishatour I thought very well))) do not worry. Well, I repeat that I and my whole family had this infection, I did not take an antibody test .... and I probably won’t.
Like moy_contakt replied 2 weeks ago
аватар moy_contakt
Well, so what? I took the result from the lab with me, if that's what you mean. But it’s not a fact that this will suit them, now no one could answer these questions, even our valiant border service. They said take everything that is, we will decide on the spot. There are questions that no one can answer yet.
аватар moy_contakt
For understanding, I have docks with a positive result, a doctor's report on the course of the disease and negative results with a doctor's report on recovery. The border service is not ready for the fact that people have already appeared who can provide a similar package of docks and instructions for such a case, they do not yet have. So we will decide upon arrival.
аватар mishatour
my_contakt, is it worth it? The situation is changing every minute and this is an incomprehensible situation...suggests...is it worth tempting fate away from home? I see that you yourself understand everything. In any case, it's your choice... Once again, good luck and have a good rest!
аватар Pachok
No, well, everything is fine here, where do you see the problem, mishatour? Those who have been ill do not risk anything and can relax (at least for a while).
аватар moy_contakt
mishatour you write nonsense here. Once again, my family was ill, as there are test results and a doctor's discharge. There are no risks for my family from this point of view. To read you, so let's take a break for 10 years, and suddenly it will come out on its own .... But alas, this is not the case. Most need to get over it. I don’t want to load myself with mathematical calculations on vacation, but if 46,700 cases are officially declared in Ukraine in 4 months, then this is how many the remaining 46 million residents of Ukraine will need to quarantine .... Complete debilizm.
аватар mishatour
moy_contak, read yourself and the sequence of your thoughts and then decide ... where is debelism ???
mishatour I thought very well))) do not worry. Well, I repeat that I and my whole family had this infection, I did not take an antibody test .... and I probably won’t. It was posted 10 days ago.
Well, so what? I took the result from the lab with me, if that's what you mean. But it’s not a fact that this will suit them, now no one could answer these questions, even our valiant border service. They said take everything that is, we will decide on the spot. There are questions that no one can answer yet. This is what you are writing today. And the smile faded from your face...
You don't have to be angry with me, be angry at the situation .... in which you need to learn how to make the right decisions.
аватар moy_contakt
mishatour, that's exactly what antibodies are of no interest to anyone today. There are clear instructions for arrivals - self-isolation on the application of diia, or application of diia, the test is taken and the laboratory itself sends the result on the basis of which you receive a message that self-isolation due to a negative test is over. No other vrians have been given to our plgran service today. They said that we would decide upon arrival on the basis of the docks that I was sick. But this is a common situation in our country, especially if you are the first to go this way.
аватар Apyatka
If a person has been ill, what is the risk?
аватар moy_contakt
I risk only my free time, freedom of movement, yes, this moment it is. I don’t see any risks for us today due to covid.
аватар Apyatka
my_contact
This is because there is no clear understanding yet whether a person can get sick again. Antibodies are produced in 25% of those who have been ill. In theory, cellular immunity (which is not related to antibodies) will not let you get sick even if there are no antibodies, but all this has not been proven.
That is why they abandoned the idea of ​​testing for antibodies. .
аватар moy_contakt
mishatour, at the expense of a smile, you don’t see my face, how do you know if I have it and how wide it is. But I'll describe to you - I got out of the pool, and I'm basking under an umbrella on a schislong, wondering why you think that something is wrong with me now? :) husband with children in the aqua park. The youngest tells everyone that she saw a lionfish today, maybe she has a different name, but she looked at the photo on the internet, she looks like it :) well, and other fish :) the islands of reefs with living creatures made an indelible impression on her, but I’m glad, maybe my child gets acquainted with the underwater world and is happy :) so everything is ok, which is what I wish you too :)
аватар moy_contakt
Apyatka, honestly, I can afford self-isolation, this is not a problem for me. Well, I'll work at home, so does my husband. We are going to Egypt again on July 31, but already for 11 nights. We will not be stopped by all these self-isolation, for us this is not critical. Everything is ok, we live and enjoy today :)
аватар Apyatka
Of course, you shot back already) Everything turned out great.
Did you get sick easily?
аватар Pachok
Damn ... I want to go to the sea :) I will probably drive the family to IFA.
аватар Slav_na
By the way, about those who had been ill: my husband was allowed not to quarantine with me and go out into the street, even living with me in the same apartment, since he is considered RECOVERED.
аватар moy_contakt
Apyatka, Easy enough. I had weakness for a long time, my husband was earlier than me and longer than anyone else, he coughed for a long time and now he was sick the hardest of all, but at home. And I, you can say, like a regular flu, but a little longer. Children are generally easy. Everything is fine.
аватар camomille
Today I talked with my TA about what is better to take - Turkey or Egypt. He says it's better to take Turkey, although it was about a normal five in Egypt.
аватар camomille
* clarify:
what is better to take in terms of sanitary standards and safety
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