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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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аватар moy_contakt
I'll tell you more. The doctor decided to treat a person who was with obvious symptoms with an additive that comes as an adjuvant for influenza types a and b (I don’t remember exactly how it was in the instructions) for 600 UAH and nothing more. And when we ourselves, on our own initiative, did a CT scan where the degree of lung damage was clearly stated with an addition that the lesion was characteristic of covid, she demanded that he come to her and close the sick leave, as he had been sick for a long time. There is no limit to the stupidity of doctors or what else to call it, I just don’t know.
аватар Olgaolga153
The insanity is growing! An employee at work fell ill, or rather the whole family fell ill, including the child. The girl survived in a mild form, the wife had a high temperature, but she also recovered. But the guy had a temperature of 40 degrees for ten days. They knocked her down, but she got up again. All the symptoms of Covid are present, they were admitted to the hospital. Looking ahead, I’ll say that they took tests in the hospital and only the third (or fourth) was positive. My wife started having breathing problems at that time. She calls the clinic, explains the situation, asks them to come to the house to take a test + a referral for a CT scan. They ask her: "Has her husband confirmed the coronovirus?" She explains that the test is negative, but all the symptoms are there, that she is in the covid ward, receiving appropriate treatment, that there are patients with positive tests in the ward, and their condition is better than that of her husband, etc. She was refused, they say, there is no evidence (!) To take the test for free, and even at home.
аватар Olgaolga153
They suggested that I go to the laboratory myself, stand in a general queue for three hours along with those who came from abroad, the very ones who have to take a test within 3 days and upload them to the State Services. How many people in this queue could she infect? Isn't that crazy! One gets the feeling that either everyone has given up on everything, or they deliberately create such precedents.
аватар _449221
How to get from the airport to the railway station by minibus please tell me the number
аватар _449221
I'm waiting for answers
аватар Apyatka
_449221
Which airport, which city, which train station?
Why is the question here?
аватар victort54
Covid tests may not show the disease. My dena went to the hospital (the Loginov Center) for a scheduled examination. The day before hospitalization in the same hospital, I passed a test for Covid, the result was negative. At the hospital, she complained of a poor condition, they did a CT scan - 25% lung damage, on the second day she was discharged from the hospital, because. Covid is possible.
The doctors came home, took a smear - the result was positive. Now he is at home in quarantine, the next analysis is in 14 days.
аватар Sergey_7979
The other day he returned from Turkey. Now it is clear why in Turkey the incidence of coronavirus is 6-8 times lower than in Ukraine (they have 1400-1600 cases per 80 million population daily, we have 5000-6000 cases per 40 million population): in Turkey ALL locals wear masks and wear them CORRECTLY, both on the mouth and on the nose! Remove only when eating or smoking. Masks in Turkey are very cheap - 15 lira per pack of 50 pcs. And in many hotels or restaurants at the entrance masks are generally offered free of charge. Disinfectants are also hanging on literally every post everywhere. At the entrance to the mall or even some small shops measure the temperature. Transport at the final stops is actually disinfected (sprayed floor and seats)
аватар Iren48
The mask will save the world! :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
аватар Pachok
Neither in Turkey, nor in any other country in the world, has an official stated, as in our country, that quarantine measures were taken in the spring "to scare" the population :( There are fines for violations everywhere. than ours.
аватар moy_contakt
Sergey_7979 it's not about masks, but how to present statistics (and for Turkey this is very important, maybe tourists, etc.), and so, statistics is such a thing. We show one figure, but I know a bunch of people who didn’t apply to their family, they didn’t show up in the statistics. My dad was not included in the statistics, because we treated him with a private doctor, we did CT scans and tests ourselves. And when the family asked why we weren’t going to close the sick leave, and we sent her a ct, where it says “the lesion is typical for covid,” she silently extended it, and on the discharge in the hospital, the diagnosis of ARVI sounded ... Who. What did he say that they offer to attribute the diagnosis for money, etc. ... Here are the statistics for you.
аватар moy_contakt
Those tested with a positive result get into the statistics. And it is already known that in 30% of cases the test gives a negative result with an obvious covid. Well, the key to success in the treatment of this disease is adequate treatment started at the very beginning, but in our country people are first kept at home without adequate appointments, and when the asshole is completely and the person needs oxygen, it turns out that there are no places, there are no doctors, there is no oxygen for you either. Turkey has excellent medicine, and I am sure that with early diagnosis, monitoring and proper treatment, there will be many times fewer patients, well, there will be only a few deaths. We have a different picture...
аватар Pachok
Yes, there are more and more publications about the need to start qualified treatment right away, and not to sit at home and cope on your own until you start to choke.
But here I am reading a doctor from Lviv, his patient with covid and already with a serious lung lesion went to a wedding with friends. Other acquaintances at school have parents who are sick, covid is confirmed, and asymptomatic children go to school, the administration and the teacher were not informed.
аватар Pachok
We ourselves are to blame.
аватар moy_contakt
Pachok agrees, this is more of a personal responsibility. Dad’s washing machine broke down and he didn’t call the master so as not to infect him, and his brother took dad to CT and laboratories (dad wouldn’t go by taxi, again, so as not to infect the driver, well, of course, brother can get sick, but this is our own, we can handle it) . Upon arrival at the laboratory, everyone knew that dad with covid was questionable, they took him without a queue, to the maximum without contacts. Walked late at night and early in the morning, away from people. But for the wedding .... Knowing that he is sick ... This is trash of course ..... Such a gift to the newlyweds for their honeymoon ....
аватар Olgaolga153
"Yes, more and more publications about the need to start qualified treatment immediately, and not sit at home and cope on your own until you start to choke."
So they take us to the hospital in the most extreme cases, you call an ambulance, they don’t care that you have a temperature of under 40 - get treated at home! And in pharmacies, all the medicines were sorted out, covid hype! And the hospitals aren't much better either. Put droppers and give arbidlol. Immunity will cope - your happiness.
аватар Pachok
In our impoverished hospitals, the main thing is oxygen and observation, so as not to start sausage. If the beginning - dexamethasone. At home, you simply can’t figure it out, don’t wait for an ambulance, don’t have time to do anything. But hospitalization is also a problem. There are no places in private for a long time, state. they report that there are still places, but it seems like a lie. Instead, private infectious disease specialists and a private service for patronage of patients with covid at home have appeared.
аватар Apyatka
Well, I, for example, wrote down the phone number of Median.
In March, I already tried to get sick in a pandemic. Luckily, it all went relatively smoothly. And so you can easily give oak. No one will come to you, and they won’t do tests, and they won’t take you to the hospital.
Thank you for taking private medicine into account.
аватар Pachok
The FDA has approved remdesivir for the treatment of patients with COVID-19.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-treatment-covid-19?f bclid=IwAR17Zh5g-OXela3Qy6giPy5sJr8mtGv7yatHhmW4pYx0wjBsq1dZ8ZOYZzs
аватар Kasja23
They already treated their Americans with hydroxychloroquine, yeah.
Now they will be treated with remdesivir. He has such side effects there that you don’t know what you will die from first - from illness or from treatment!)))
аватар Sergey_7979
Here is the article:
http://documents1.worldbank.org/
The expected date of the end of the pandemic is March 31, 2025
Probably, borders for tourism will not be opened earlier
аватар klichko
The expected end of the pandemic is March 31, 2025
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The date alone is already crazy
аватар dusik1981
klichko, and you graduated from the Faculty of "Preventive Medicine " in 2020? :)) and there are now the final terms for pandemics? :))
аватар Sergey_7979
If anyone is interested - from today (05.11.2020) when settling in all sanatoriums of Lviv and Zakarpattia regions, all tourists will take a PCR test. The cost is about 300 hryvnias per person
аватар camomille
The expected end of the pandemic is March 31, 2025
Probably, borders for tourism will not be opened earlier
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Right before the start of summer navigation, the airlines guessed))
аватар Igor_m
"The expected end of the pandemic is March 31, 2025. "
The next day the laughter will be incredible.
аватар nadezda2017
"The expected end of the pandemic is March 31, 2025. "
The next day the laughter will be incredible.
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With the mess that is happening in the world now, maybe the next day there will be nowhere to fly, and no one.
Hello everyone and optimism! Where ours did not disappear! Maybe we'll break through!
аватар camomille
Yesterday I read the forecast of the epidemiologist, who was very optimistic about the vaccine and said that by spring the situation would begin to improve. I want to believe. The only question is when this vaccine will be available in our country.
аватар moy_contakt
camomile do you really want to participate in vaccine trials on yourself? Oh well.
аватар camomille
my_contact
My grandmother was an ardent anti-vaxxer. Therefore, in childhood, I did not receive any vaccinations at all. It ended up that when I went to school, I immediately caught hepatitis. I still remember the horrors of that hospital. After that, I got all the vaccinations that are supposed to. Therefore, I have a completely loyal attitude towards vaccinations.
I think that by the time the Pfizer vaccine is available in our country, it will already be clear how it works and what effect it has. Now the World Bank wants to vaccinate old people from nursing homes, doctors and the police by the end of the year.
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