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What is the best way to relax without a tour operator?
I want to fly to Pattaya a second time, but as a savage with my daughter, is it possible? And how much will it cost?
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Buy tickets, book and pay for the hotel on www.agoda.com you arrive - you take a taxi to Suvarnabhumi to PTT for 900 baht, you arrive and settle. Cheap and cheerful. I wish you a good rest!
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answered 14 years ago
Just don't forget that the tour operator's tickets are cheaper! I don't understand what you are going to save! Through the operator is cheaper and more reliable! What will you do if your hotel reservation is not confirmed on the spot? Didn't think? But what about the fact that a taxi can cost three times more than a transfer? And just do I can not understand what is the purpose of driving without a tour operator. You need to rest in comfort and someone should take care of it.
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answered 14 years ago
For example, a taxi driver accidentally brought us instead of Utopau Airport, which is located in Pattaya, to Bangkok !!! So, thanks to Sayama Travel, the meeting party, the weight of the misunderstanding was settled. We were changed tickets, transported to the right airport, fed lunch, and sent to the island. And if you go by yourself, then who will be to blame for what happens to you. .GOOD LUCK!
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answered 14 years ago
As for insurance - I agree, it is needed, especially since it costs a penny, but about everything else - categorically not. The fact of the matter is that jambs climb out of the tours, some problems always arise, and you can probably take care of yourself ... On the transfer account - in the package its cost is about $ 30 per person one way, so a taxi much cheaper. And I have never heard of anyone having a problem with a hotel when booking through Agoda.
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answered 14 years ago
Well, for starters, to make the rest a success, change direction. Thank God we were immediately told that I was not in any case. Phuket, Koh Samui, Koh Chang, etc. The second - what n .. is cheaper and more reliable. As for prices, I don’t want to repeat myself, the only thing I’ll add is look for promotional flight tickets. My wife and I personally helped tourists abandoned by the travel agency at the airport. Tai has all the conditions for independent travel. The only thing is knowledge of English.
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answered 14 years ago
I disagree with many and in different ways. I myself live here in Thailand, in Pattaya, I receive tourists, I have my own travel company in Thailand. Firstly, even with my rollback, a taxi to Pattaya from Bangkok airport for 900 baht will not work. Back, yes, even 800, but there 1100 for me, for a tourist 1500, who does not know how to bargain 2000.
Why not to Pattaya??? If for excursions, then only here, and if you warm your back in the sun and see nothing, then the islands. You must first choose what is more important.
Travel companies like mine book hotels at the prices of the same hotels, earning on a commission from the hotel, so there will be no difference in price for you, but the tour operator will give you a guarantee and a booking document.
I will also find plane tickets faster than a simple tourist and at a lower price, five because of my commission.
The main thing. If you buy a complex tour, then the price of the ticket is net, the hotel is net, the meeting is net and only excursions with a commission. Here you need to look at the prices for these excursions. We have Thai prices, but there are 3 times higher.
By the way, only those who work with intermediaries have problems with tourists. Buy tours from those who work directly (send and meet) and have not yet snickered.
Why not to Pattaya??? If for excursions, then only here, and if you warm your back in the sun and see nothing, then the islands. You must first choose what is more important.
Travel companies like mine book hotels at the prices of the same hotels, earning on a commission from the hotel, so there will be no difference in price for you, but the tour operator will give you a guarantee and a booking document.
I will also find plane tickets faster than a simple tourist and at a lower price, five because of my commission.
The main thing. If you buy a complex tour, then the price of the ticket is net, the hotel is net, the meeting is net and only excursions with a commission. Here you need to look at the prices for these excursions. We have Thai prices, but there are 3 times higher.
By the way, only those who work with intermediaries have problems with tourists. Buy tours from those who work directly (send and meet) and have not yet snickered.
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answered 14 years ago
- The whole point is in the ticket. Need to "catch". I managed to "catch" Kyiv-Bangkok in advance at a price of 690 dollars for the last May holidays and at a price of 595 for these. The offers that I looked at from the operators were from 750 for the spring and from 890 for the May holidays.
- Insurance is issued in any insurance company, it is inexpensive. Here, I look at my insurance - 162 UAH for 18 days, IC "Providna", coverage 30,000 Euros, no franchise, tariff "whole world".
- The operator provides a group transfer, it is incorrect to compare with a taxi. Taxi to Pattaya 1200-1500 baht per car ($40-50). A bus, such as the one that transfers are carried out - 120 baht per person, goes directly from the airport to Pattaya.
- The hotel reservation cannot be confirmed on the spot! Sites like Agoda and Savadi value their reputation and will be more reliable than some operators. After booking, you will receive a voucher by e-mail, which is no worse than the operator's one.
- Luda is right about one thing - if you do not want to "bother" and feel helpless in a foreign country so much that you cannot explain to the taxi driver which airport you need to go to, it is better to entrust everything to professionals.
- Insurance is issued in any insurance company, it is inexpensive. Here, I look at my insurance - 162 UAH for 18 days, IC "Providna", coverage 30,000 Euros, no franchise, tariff "whole world".
- The operator provides a group transfer, it is incorrect to compare with a taxi. Taxi to Pattaya 1200-1500 baht per car ($40-50). A bus, such as the one that transfers are carried out - 120 baht per person, goes directly from the airport to Pattaya.
- The hotel reservation cannot be confirmed on the spot! Sites like Agoda and Savadi value their reputation and will be more reliable than some operators. After booking, you will receive a voucher by e-mail, which is no worse than the operator's one.
- Luda is right about one thing - if you do not want to "bother" and feel helpless in a foreign country so much that you cannot explain to the taxi driver which airport you need to go to, it is better to entrust everything to professionals.
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answered 14 years ago
Yes, I forgot the most important thing - it is Pattaya that can often turn out to be CHEAPER with a tour operator. Kruzhe regions - on the contrary. And if you step to the left or right of the standard tour - that's it! this is a private tour and is at least one and a half times more expensive than a standard tour and half the price of a self-guided one.
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answered 14 years ago
Pachok ...provided that the tourist knows Thailand, well, at least like you. Or me. Otherwise ... For the first time I spent on my own in Thailand much more than now the tourists I receive pay me on the same route.
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answered 14 years ago
... and my staffs carry gasoline to them when it accidentally ends up in a bike on the track, and they take them by the hand to shops, and personally I answer them 100 questions a day by phone, because they get a card of a local tour operator back in Ukraine or in airport upon arrival. And support saves a lot and costs a lot. So how to look.
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answered 14 years ago
Absolutely agree with Amir1. I love Pattaya very much and have rested there more than once. Didn't find anything wrong there! I myself am not even going to fly a savage, because. it’s not so much cheaper, so at least the tour operator has a guarantee, a confirmed hotel, a flight at a normal price, and they will meet and take you.
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answered 14 years ago
Amir, I'm in Thailand and for the first time I went on my own. At that time, simply because the agencies could not offer me the desired route.
57888, "so at least the tour operator has a guarantee, a confirmed hotel, a flight at a normal price, and they will meet you and take you away."
This is all there for the samtourist. Except, perhaps, "meet-taken", but this, as they say, to someone. Driving me by the handle depresses me.
In general, the dispute between "packers" and "self-walkers" is akin to a dispute between vegetarians and meat-eaters or between Orthodox and atheists. Everyone will have their own opinion :)
The author of the topic asked if it was possible on his own and how much it cost, and whether it was necessary to go on his own.
57888, "so at least the tour operator has a guarantee, a confirmed hotel, a flight at a normal price, and they will meet you and take you away."
This is all there for the samtourist. Except, perhaps, "meet-taken", but this, as they say, to someone. Driving me by the handle depresses me.
In general, the dispute between "packers" and "self-walkers" is akin to a dispute between vegetarians and meat-eaters or between Orthodox and atheists. Everyone will have their own opinion :)
The author of the topic asked if it was possible on his own and how much it cost, and whether it was necessary to go on his own.
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answered 14 years ago
Pachok, I also went to Tai on my own for the first time. Note that I also have a language level, I could communicate. And then I spent more than now my tourists pay for the same. And why? Because he did not know all the subtleties of Tai, but there are many of them. And without knowing them, it is impossible to save them. I'm not talking about the big tour operators, which are for tourists. . . The main thing is money. Moreover, everything is on the conveyor. In addition to selling expensive excursions and intimidating tourists, they have nothing. But there are normal local companies that really make a tourist's vacation cheaper and more enjoyable. Moreover, these companies are ours and know how to behave with our tourists. And for a tourist who does not speak English and for the first time in Thailand, it is much easier with such a company than to break through walls that are often impenetrable for a beginner. And only at the end of the vacation he understands how it was necessary to live, but it's too late, the vacation is over. And another time he will go to another camp, without fully feeling the whole taste of this wonderful country, having spent a lot of time solving his problems. Believe me, there are very few tourists like you who can immediately find their way in a foreign country. Basically the other way around, and I see it sooooo often now.
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answered 14 years ago
It is very good that companies like yours exist. They are indeed necessary for a large number of tourists.
In this case, let's single out not two, but three groups of tourists:
1. bags of large operators
2. self-tourists
3. half-packers - those who apply to local travel agencies
By the way, how do you like the prices of the Thai Ilves tour? :)))
The only thing that surprised me was this phrase of yours "having spent a lot of time solving your problems" ... What problems? Why is the absence of an operator associated with problems?
If we are talking about independent tourism, then people just "how hello" do not go on such a trip. They read, ask on the forums, there is the most extensive and detailed site of independent tourists, the name of which is not written here. Well, the language, of course, at least within the framework of the school curriculum, is necessary.
As for the number of tourists... Agents probably have better statistics (more precisely, airlines), but more and more of my friends and acquaintances are traveling on their own. These are people 30-40 years old, middle class in terms of income, with higher education (this is about languages). Let's just say that among us 10 years ago there was one independent trip for 10 trips, but now it is exactly the opposite.
In this case, let's single out not two, but three groups of tourists:
1. bags of large operators
2. self-tourists
3. half-packers - those who apply to local travel agencies
By the way, how do you like the prices of the Thai Ilves tour? :)))
The only thing that surprised me was this phrase of yours "having spent a lot of time solving your problems" ... What problems? Why is the absence of an operator associated with problems?
If we are talking about independent tourism, then people just "how hello" do not go on such a trip. They read, ask on the forums, there is the most extensive and detailed site of independent tourists, the name of which is not written here. Well, the language, of course, at least within the framework of the school curriculum, is necessary.
As for the number of tourists... Agents probably have better statistics (more precisely, airlines), but more and more of my friends and acquaintances are traveling on their own. These are people 30-40 years old, middle class in terms of income, with higher education (this is about languages). Let's just say that among us 10 years ago there was one independent trip for 10 trips, but now it is exactly the opposite.
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answered 14 years ago
I'm not saying it's good or bad, it's just that there is a trend. I don’t know a single person who, after an independent trip, said “it would be better if I went through an agency,” although I do not exclude that such people exist in nature. And it's not even always about the money and, even, most often not about the money.
Just, for example, a girl in one respected agency, when I asked if it was possible to go through them to the Hua Hin resort, told me with conviction "It's in China, and you asked about Thailand" ... Then she took a timeout for three days , after which she announced to me as many as four of the most expensive hotels, and even at prices higher than those of the same hotels on the site. :)))) I found two dozen suitable options without leaving my house in half an hour. As a result, they took a ticket from her (at the regular price of Aerosvit) and a transfer (which they did not use, because it was to Pattaya). That was a long time ago....
Just, for example, a girl in one respected agency, when I asked if it was possible to go through them to the Hua Hin resort, told me with conviction "It's in China, and you asked about Thailand" ... Then she took a timeout for three days , after which she announced to me as many as four of the most expensive hotels, and even at prices higher than those of the same hotels on the site. :)))) I found two dozen suitable options without leaving my house in half an hour. As a result, they took a ticket from her (at the regular price of Aerosvit) and a transfer (which they did not use, because it was to Pattaya). That was a long time ago....
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answered 14 years ago
what problems? For example, even such as in which store it is cheaper to buy a beach bag and how to get to it faster and also call me a taxi and cheaper. We do all this for our tourists. And I'm not talking about non-professionals and lazy people. Such agencies are indeed the majority, but you need to look for normal ones. You yourself would be more comfortable if you even bought a bus ticket without going anywhere at the same price. You don't care, you just don't need to bother, and the operator is fine, he has some kind of commission from this.
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answered 14 years ago
Well, these are not problems - this is life :)))) Nobody argues about tickets - I, say, buy ferry tickets at the tourist office closest to the hotel. Tours come across sometimes at the price of an entrance ticket, but rarely.
"There are really a majority of such agencies, but you need to look for normal ones"
Amir, but you must admit that sometimes efforts to find an adequate agency are tantamount to independent body movements. This is where we communicate with you, I can say that I already know you virtually. And, let's say, I arrived in Pattaya, and HOW do I look for a normal agency among thousands? How can I know that this particular agency is normal?
Moreover, I cannot know this when buying a package tour in Kyiv.
Z.Y. I looked at your site, I really liked it! Interesting offers, good prices. Good luck in your business.
"There are really a majority of such agencies, but you need to look for normal ones"
Amir, but you must admit that sometimes efforts to find an adequate agency are tantamount to independent body movements. This is where we communicate with you, I can say that I already know you virtually. And, let's say, I arrived in Pattaya, and HOW do I look for a normal agency among thousands? How can I know that this particular agency is normal?
Moreover, I cannot know this when buying a package tour in Kyiv.
Z.Y. I looked at your site, I really liked it! Interesting offers, good prices. Good luck in your business.
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answered 14 years ago
Pachok site is not ready yet, I'm just doing it, but if you're in Pattaya, be sure to call. It will be interesting to cross. Let's eat Tom Yum Kun with Kau Pad Kun or Kweitio, drink HONG THONG or CHANG :)))
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answered 14 years ago
We are flying to PTT in August.
Waiting for a rainy vacation or normal?;)
tou Amir1: share the number, we will find you on excursions
Waiting for a rainy vacation or normal?;)
tou Amir1: share the number, we will find you on excursions
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answered 14 years ago
I can't do it here, they'll delete it. All info is in my profile. There is also a site on which the selection of the tour.
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answered 14 years ago
we fly ourselves. and with excursions, you should finally find a reliable partner.)
wrote down your contacts - bryaknim.
And yet, August will sink? :)
wrote down your contacts - bryaknim.
And yet, August will sink? :)
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answered 14 years ago