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Why are such exorbitant prices at the Kemer Barut hotel, I go to this hotel 10 years 2 times a year, but the prices are now for August, this is something, I’m already thinking of changing the hotel
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Yes, this year, apparently, it doesn’t shine. I also often rest in Kemer, but in this case, the prices ... I don’t know what to do.
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answered 9 years ago
The prices are so exorbitant, because Kobzon came to the ruble. I can say the same about your neighbor Berut, about my Bergamotik. The prices, as you call them, are "outrageous" only in rubles. Hotels did not change prices in dollars. And then they lowered it a bit.
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answered 9 years ago
Demand pushes prices up. This year, Tunisia has closed, Egypt is scaring away with radicals, Montenegro is without food, there is no alternative to Turkey.
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answered 9 years ago
Events in Greece also turned some towards Turkey ...
"Optimization" of the exchange rate, now do not add the phrase that, at the request of the workers, has done its job.
"Optimization" of the exchange rate, now do not add the phrase that, at the request of the workers, has done its job.
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answered 9 years ago
The situation is the same, and perhaps even more contrasting, in Ukraine. This year I went to Kemer ("Valeri Beach"). With this money, with the "bandit" he could go three times.
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answered 9 years ago
Yes, you should probably direct your eyes to Arkhipo-Osipovka ...
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answered 9 years ago
No, Alexander, only very rich people go to our south))) but the TS just shocked me)))))) 20 times in one hotel ???????????? What, did they pay him? The hotel is not ice at all to be such a fan)))) so many interesting places even nearby!!!! I'm embarrassed to ask, what kind of phobia is this???????????
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answered 9 years ago
Bulgaria is very cheap, I see. In the euro, it's generally ridiculous to say so.
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answered 9 years ago
I don’t know what city it’s funny from, but from Eaterinburg for two for 10 nights the cheapest three-ruble note for all “only” 100 thousand)))) it’s really funny) and even a visa) ah-ha-ha !!!!!)) ))
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answered 9 years ago
yes XZ ... in June, a specific hotel was 45 thousand rubles on the 1st 24 days ... three ... but in August the same hotel was already 44 thousand rubles for only 7 days ... but, guys, consider well! Crimea is ours!))
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answered 9 years ago
PolikSVT! I won’t go to our south for free. Thank you... And about 20 times in Beirut, it's strange of course. Although I already have 3 times in Bergamotica ... Next year I'm not going to change either. So it's also a phobia. I’m apparently a Bergamotophile ... Although I was an Ananasophile in my youth)))
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answered 9 years ago
Our south, the Krasnodar Territory, I mean, is very different, both in terms of service level and price. We visit every year, we have not been noticed in phobia and masochism. If you are interested, please write to me.
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answered 9 years ago
The Turks are going through their crisis, and therefore they are switching to a tourist who can pay. Or they need to remove half of the services that were offered before. The Russian tourist is now potentially no longer interesting to them, because. affects its ability to pay. In Barut this summer, 60% of vacationers are British and Germans. Many Turkish 5 * hotels are switching to Europeans. In the same Kemer, Hydros, neighboring with Barut, 80% switched to the French.
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answered 9 years ago
Because the Turks are also forced to save money and switch to a solvent tourist. Or remove half of the free services. They have their own crisis and the Russian impoverished tourist is no longer interesting to them. They pass on to Europeans who can pay. In Barut this year already more than half of the tourists are Germans and British. In Gidros, adjacent to Barut, 80% was given over to the French. Hotel occupancy is 100%. They've just returned.
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answered 9 years ago
There are no flights to Antalya. Good hotels in the stop. The price is going up as demand outstrips supply. What kind of insolvency of a Russian tourist are you talking about??????????
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answered 9 years ago
“The Russian tourist is now potentially no longer interesting to them, because. his ability to pay affects”, “Russian impoverished tourist” the feeling that musja owns information about every settlement account of every Russian and personally counted the cash in every wallet of every resident of Russia. Also, the percentage of hotel occupancy in general and representatives of individual states in particular leads. Have you read your news?
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answered 9 years ago
Nonsense about the "not interesting" and "insolvency" of the Russian tourist. At the end of June I was in Kemer. All Kemer is teeming with Russians. They even come from Komsomolsk-on-Amur ... I don’t even speak about Moscow and St. Petersburg, every second one. It seems like there are no others. All hotels from Lancora to Orange County are packed with Russian vacationers. The Turks even learned to make borscht and okroshka for Russians ..
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answered 9 years ago
For all Ukrainianophobes and those who are very outraged by the term "insolvency", I will just give you a specific calculation of the hotel for a tour operator (work in this area, including the Russian market) from different countries: so we take 2 adults for 14 nights in a hotel "A" (I will no longer write by name). For Russia (and Ukraine, too, so don't spray poison dear), the hotel releases a tour at a price of 2800 dollars. for this period. At the same time, the same hotel sells tours for a German tour operator at a price of 5100 euros. Question: what is more profitable for the hotel - to sell the tour to our tourist, or to release it on the German market? The second specific example: a hotel sells a tour for a tour operator to the Russian market for 14 days for 2 adults for 2300 dollars. And to the same tour operator in France, 3400 euros each. Question: with whom is it more profitable to work with a hotel? Yes, there are many Russian-speaking tourists in Kemer - in all 3, a maximum of 4 * - budget 5. Busy Ozamak Marina, Valerie Beach, Viking Nona, Golden Lotus. In Orange, a Russian tourist is diluted with Iranians. In 3 * you will not find European tourists. Units. On the other hand, good 5 * have been transferred to Europeans since this year, leaving the CIS market with a maximum of up to 40% of the total number of tours. Turks are also not altruists
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answered 9 years ago
musja7, I will not get involved in a controversy with you. But in this regard, I have other information from European tourists))) What a fool - a European goes to Turkey for the amounts that you voiced? If only you give them a thumbs up) My friend's sister lives in Germany, they often meet in Turkey on vacation. And it is in Germany that tours are booked, because. it is much CHEAPER than from Russia) It is more profitable for a friend to buy a ticket for a regular flight) I can give many examples when hotel A costs 900 euros for Europeans, and 1500 for us) this is conditional. But it's all over the place. And no need for blablabla. Whoever buys how many hotel rooms by the beginning of the season - he rests there (I mean TO). The Turks don’t care who exactly will buy it. And it’s not necessary about Russians that “there are a lot of Russian-speaking tourists in Kemer - in all 3, a maximum of 4 * - budget 5”. Occupied by Russian Renaissance, AKM, ADV, Rixos. And you should not think badly about Ukrainians. My friend lives in Donetsk, an ordinary employee, asks for advice on choosing a hotel for September. The bottom line is this: they began to live poorer, we are already choosing between Champion 5 * and Ulusa Holdyday 5 * in Kemer))) So that we can live like this)))
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answered 9 years ago
The facts are still there. I will support in some musja7. We were in Kemer from June 12 to July 3. Really Russian (and Russian-speaking) tourists have become less than before. Perhaps this is due not only to "insolvency", but to zoning. Some, especially gullible individuals, were nevertheless inspired that it is better and more profitable to go to Crimea than to Turkey ... There are enough idiots, so some of the former inhabitants of Kemer are now somewhere there, in our Crimea. In a year, the situation will change again in favor of Turkey, because people will see with their own eyes how "wonderful" it is in the Crimea)))). Well, the fact that the hotels twitched towards Europe is also true. But that was back in December-January, when we had the peak of the dollar jump. There were no reservations from the CIS at all (I am now specifically talking about my Garden Resort Bregamot, because I have first-hand information) and the hotel switched to Belgium, France. In the spring, the situation with the CIS market returned to normal a little, but it still cannot be compared with previous seasons. At that time, Bergamot was in the foot, and now it is only 80% filled.
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answered 9 years ago
To write from a coup d'état is coming in Turkey, as it was written the other day in one of the branches by one informed, before discussions about the insolvency of the Russians, this is normal, and those who do not agree immediately stamped "Ukrainophobe" and nailed it, period.
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answered 9 years ago
In economics, there is the concept of "turnover of funds". What's the point in an idle hotel. It's better to get $2,500 a few times in a season than never $5,000. Turks are by nature hucksters. It is not necessary to convince us that a Russian tourist does not bring benefits for the Turks ...
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answered 9 years ago
I can’t say anything about Kemer ... I always rest in the Alanya region ... I was in June 2015 ... because I always fly to the same village, I have information from many Turkish friends, and also visited hotels during my holidays , in which she rested before ... tourists from Russia actively inhabit hotels that are economical, i.e. treshki... one of the fours "killed" me simply - before, it was packed to capacity (last year I rested there), now it misses the lack of tourists - there were at most 20 people in the bar in the evening! the five also did not abound in the number of vacationers ... the Turks, by the way, are well aware of the situation with the currency in Russia ... but they go nuts from the same Germans, for example, who can still be found there, but who have become stingy ... I personally communicate with Germans (we met on vacation) ... those, having learned how much the rest cost me now, began to whine that now "everything is also incredibly expensive" ... I went to the German site and made sure personally that "not so the devil is terrible, how they paint him))
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answered 9 years ago
PolikSVT, I will explain point by point on the fingers about "what kind of fool will go" :)
1. Tour operators conclude agreements with hotels for the next season based on the results of the current one. And this happens even before the end of the year, until January at the most. Since early booking starts in February
2. An international network of tour operators (for example, those that are part of the TUI concern - and this is Germany, and Great Britain, and France, and Russia, and Ukraine ...) allocates for each country an initially certain number of tours available for booking. So, for example, according to the results of the last season, a number of Turkish hotels, instead of the usual 3-4 operators, signed contracts with only one for the next season. Plus the distribution of tours within the operator itself. The operator opened a number of hotels in Europe by 60-80%, leaving 20 to 40% of the places for the CIS countries.
3. For European tourists, there is also an early booking system and 30-35% discounts based on occupancy results.
4. If you do not take into account our emigrants who live in the same Germany or France and really will not go for that kind of money, then the citizens of these countries are free. In a number of hotels in early July, occupancy was above 100%.
1. Tour operators conclude agreements with hotels for the next season based on the results of the current one. And this happens even before the end of the year, until January at the most. Since early booking starts in February
2. An international network of tour operators (for example, those that are part of the TUI concern - and this is Germany, and Great Britain, and France, and Russia, and Ukraine ...) allocates for each country an initially certain number of tours available for booking. So, for example, according to the results of the last season, a number of Turkish hotels, instead of the usual 3-4 operators, signed contracts with only one for the next season. Plus the distribution of tours within the operator itself. The operator opened a number of hotels in Europe by 60-80%, leaving 20 to 40% of the places for the CIS countries.
3. For European tourists, there is also an early booking system and 30-35% discounts based on occupancy results.
4. If you do not take into account our emigrants who live in the same Germany or France and really will not go for that kind of money, then the citizens of these countries are free. In a number of hotels in early July, occupancy was above 100%.
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answered 9 years ago
5. In connection with such overlays, there were days when transfer guides took tourists from the CIS straight to the airport to another hotel for an overnight stay, since there were no vacant places in the booked one on that date. And with overlays, preference was given to the purchased tours of Europeans. Tourists from the CIS were taken to good hotels, but where 100% of them were "ours".
6. A number of hotels this year decided not to conclude contracts with operators from the CIS for the next season at all. In case of non-filling, they simply give a discount to Europeans, tk. this is now done for a whole series of 5 * for the month of September-October. At the same time, for our tourists, the same operator issues a "hotel in the foot" for the same period.
7. In a number of hotels this year, at the request of the same Germans and French, additional services were created, for which they are willing to pay, but our tourists are not.
8. This year the Turks are also saving and choosing the best options for themselves. . In 3 * now there is nothing to do at all for those who at least a little appreciate the service and quality
6. A number of hotels this year decided not to conclude contracts with operators from the CIS for the next season at all. In case of non-filling, they simply give a discount to Europeans, tk. this is now done for a whole series of 5 * for the month of September-October. At the same time, for our tourists, the same operator issues a "hotel in the foot" for the same period.
7. In a number of hotels this year, at the request of the same Germans and French, additional services were created, for which they are willing to pay, but our tourists are not.
8. This year the Turks are also saving and choosing the best options for themselves. . In 3 * now there is nothing to do at all for those who at least a little appreciate the service and quality
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answered 9 years ago
For European tourists, tours are organized with a margin of 7 days. Their tour operators do not sell for 9-10, etc. nights. It is beneficial for Turks and tour operators to organize 7-day tours, the prices for which are in any case higher (if calculated) than when buying a tour for 10-14 days by our tourist. A bunch of hotels that in the 2014 season worked with a number of tour operators in the CIS, for the 2015 season agreed on contracts with only 1 or 2. The rest of the places were given to Europe
Regarding the fact that the term "insolvency" touched someone. Yes, in fact, then why be indignant that your favorite hotel has risen in price? If everything is good, then please - 165-174 thousand rubles for two in 7 days and relax in Barut as much as you like. For the Germans and the British, it is sold at almost the same price. But what is it for a European to pay 2800 euros for a tour for 7 days, and what about for our tourist? Accordingly, there demand increased, and among ours, it fell. What should the Turks do: engage in altruism and discount the price for our tourist, or sell tours to the European market without discounts?
Regarding the fact that the term "insolvency" touched someone. Yes, in fact, then why be indignant that your favorite hotel has risen in price? If everything is good, then please - 165-174 thousand rubles for two in 7 days and relax in Barut as much as you like. For the Germans and the British, it is sold at almost the same price. But what is it for a European to pay 2800 euros for a tour for 7 days, and what about for our tourist? Accordingly, there demand increased, and among ours, it fell. What should the Turks do: engage in altruism and discount the price for our tourist, or sell tours to the European market without discounts?
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answered 9 years ago