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There is a one-year visa to Germany, but there has not yet been an exit, it ends on 12/31/15. Do I need to roll it? If there is no departure, then there will be problems in obtaining a trace. visas?
There is a one-year visa to Germany, but there has not yet been an exit, it ends on 12/31/15. Do I need to roll it? If there is no departure, then there will be problems in obtaining a trace. visas?
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аватар sigur62
There will be no problems.
You haven't violated anything.
аватар L_ena
Read the rules for obtaining and using Schengen visas. Personally, we have never found ourselves in a situation where a visa, especially a long-term one, has never been used. I would recommend to go at least to Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia or Hungary. Let there not be a German stamp, but there will be entry and exit from the Schengen zone. I think that would be better.
аватар Yaroslavas
Yes, we have encountered this and had some difficulties. If the visa has not been used, then it must be canceled from the embassy so that there are no problems in the future. We did this in the French embassy in Kyiv. I don’t know exactly how the Germans are doing with this, but you can call the embassy and find out for sure.
аватар sigur62
"If the visa has not been used, then it must be canceled from the embassy so that there are no problems in the future."
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Bullshit.
Do not mislead people.
аватар Yaroslavas
sigur62, I, unfortunately, do not invent anything. There was a similar situation and I myself consulted at the French Consulate and received such an answer that the unused visa must be "redeemed" and there are two ways to do this: go and use it as usual or explain the reasons why this visa was not used and cancel it at the issuing Consulate. I did it myself, so I know exactly what I'm talking about. The only thing is that each consulate has its own troubles and what the German Consulate directly thinks about this, it is better to check with the German Consulate itself. Moreover, you are from Russia, and the vehicle is from Ukraine, and, of course, ideally everything should be the same, but every embassy in every country has fun as much as it can))
аватар L_ena
sigur62, have you personally been in a situation of not using an annual Schengen visa? How long ago? What is the issuing country of this visa? How quickly after that did you receive the next Schengen and at which embassy? This site is valuable for the advice of people who have actually been in situations about which questions are asked. Your categoricalness is based on personal experience?
аватар sigur62
Dear, I live in a border town, and my fellow countrymen have annual Schengen visas for 9 people out of ten. So I know what I'm talking about.
There is no violation of visa laws in the case indicated in the question and cannot be.
A person paid for a visa, contributed his euros to the budget of the country that issued this visa.
Wanted - went, did not want - stayed at home. What problems?
After all, no one forces you to explain whether you ate the sausage that you bought in the store or did not eat it?
Or someone demands an explanation from you why you did not fly by plane, although you bought a ticket for the flight?
How small, oh my god...
аватар Yaroslavas
sigur62, with all due respect, your controversy has moved far away from the tourism issue under discussion. The analogy with buying sausage is inappropriate. A person wants to get up-to-date information from people who have been in such a situation, because your guesses here will not really serve him well. We can simply tell situations from life, and the TC, taking everything into account, contact the German Consulate and finally clarify the issue. Not only are you from another country, but you still live in a border town, which further increases the possibility that your information is not particularly relevant to the author. And in our country, for example, there are very few embassies that give tourist multi-Schengen, and now it’s easier to say which ones they still give, because their list is getting scarcer every day.
PS I would like to see how you would tell everything that you write to the Consulate and how they would refuse you, and you, foaming at the mouth, proved that they have no right. These are the sad realities of life
аватар sigur62
Well, that means we're luckier than you, that's all.
Most often, my countrymen take visas for the whole family, for a year, while again, very often someone from the family does not travel at all, and this does not affect the receipt of the next visa.
In any case, the need for some kind of "annulment" of an unused visa is nonsense, no options.
The one who said about this "annulment" is either an absolute layman in the issue under discussion, or deliberately misleads his interlocutors.
The visa simply expires and closes by itself.
аватар Yaroslavas
sigur62, next time at the Consulate I will say that I don’t know what they were thinking up there, but sigur62 said that this is nonsense without options and let, in short, do as sigur62 said)) Here, it seems, you are an adult man. I'm a little surprised by your naivety. I have been opening Schengen visas for a long time, different ones, to different countries, including cartoons and not only to myself, so I can’t objectively call myself a “layman”.
If you encounter such situations without exception, then, perhaps, the attitude of the Consulates to this is different. With us, this is rather an exception and therefore a special case. And frankly, it seems to me that it is very logical that you applied for a visa for the purpose of crossing the border and staying in the country, collected and submitted some documents, the Embassy opened a visa for you for such a visit and has the right to be aware that this visa not used properly. Yes, this is not a violation of the visa regime and the procedure here is not entirely clear, but already as it is.
аватар Yaroslavas
By the way, you know, in the winter many had questions with the Slovak Consulate. Once visas were issued, some had their visas automatically canceled if the person promptly canceled their hotel reservation. I think you would also shout that they say that I do what I want. So the Slovak Consulate had its own views and they argued that before canceling and rebooking a new hotel, it was necessary to inform the Consulate of this fact. There will be no dialogue about who is right and who is wrong in this situation, but there is a precedent, which means you need to be prepared for this and behave carefully in such aspects.
We are already talking with you on the wrong topic, so let's finish. I know that you love controversy happy to argue. I don't want to have an endless discussion. So sorry))
аватар kolyan_cat
Sigur is right. "Cancel a visa" - Lord, I have not heard more enchanting nonsense.
Cancellation of the visa takes place, but not in this case.
The visa has expired - it is automatically "cancelled". Well, a person didn’t go - you never know, he could get sick, plans could change. Nothing criminal.
"Skating back to Poland" is 100 times worse than just letting your visa run out. You can forget about a new German visa after that.
The author, do not listen to experts, after the expiration of the visa, you simply apply for a new one, they will ask why you didn’t go - answer honestly and do not listen to distant people. Everything will be fine.
аватар kolyan_cat
the word "experts" should have been in quotation marks))
аватар sigur62
Kolyan, and thanks again for your support, old man.
I will explain your words a little: "Visa cancellation takes place, but not in this case."
Apparently, the conversation is about the cancellation of a visa that is still ACTIVE, i.e. one that has not yet expired.
For example, a person has a visa to a Schengen country, and it is valid for another two months, and a person in a month for 90 days immediately, that is, it's time to apply for a new visa, because the old one simply won't be enough for such a trip. But the new one will not be opened while the old one is in operation. In this case, before applying for a new visa, it is necessary to cancel the old one.
We will assume that YaroslavaS had in mind exactly this case when she wrote about the cancellation.
Yes, and a hundred pluses to this:
"Skating back to Poland" is 100 times worse than just letting your visa run out. You can forget about a new German visa after that."
аватар Yaroslavas
But Baba Yaga is still against it, I still think that no one will tell you better than the Consulate itself, and all our assumptions are mine, sigur62 and kolyan-cat are not about anything at all. But at least I'm telling a real life story, and sigur62 and kolyan-cat just decided to talk "ab life". Speak to your health, dear forum users! I am moving away from this thread, otherwise you will hear such a thing that the desire to help people will disappear forever. Although I suppose my experience could sometimes be useful to the participants. All the best!
аватар sigur62
Get out of course.
It is high time.
аватар Yaroslavas
sigur62, I had a higher opinion of you. I thought that you were an experienced tourist, share your experience and will not be humiliated to the level of a railway station haml. I was wrong... It's time for you to leave too. And then from your rudeness and categorical nothing but negative emotions.
аватар ollennka
))) The story about the cancellation of the visa is valid, give the author a warm hello.
аватар kolyan_cat
Yaroslava, Sigur and shared his experience, unlike you, who spread, excuse me, rumors under the guise of facts.
"Helping people" must be done carefully, guided by the principle of "do no harm."
аватар kolyan_cat
By the way, gentlemen, I just went to Germany by bus, hosspadi, what crazy "expert opinions" I heard about visas and trips from ordinary people))) Fortunately, I sat completely and my locators could only absorb speech from 3 closest neighbors, but also this was enough to cover my head with my hands in an hour and go with one thought "Keep yourself in control, don't get stuck, let them rave on", and still managed to restrain myself, fortunately))) Our people love to prefer all sorts of shamanic dances with a tambourine instead of simple and meaningful actions. ))
аватар sigur62
We have the same way.
It is enough for a person to go on a one-day shopping tour to Finland for a bottle of fairies a couple of times - and he is already in line at the border gathering a crowd around him, sharing his "experience".
True, I have never heard about the cancellation of a visa, here for the first time)))
аватар Scurra-2
Boys, there's a first time for everything. I was always surprised by the stories about "body searches" at the borders. Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, it doesn't matter. Somehow I got lucky! And in the autumn I got into the "red corridor". It was something! Don't worry, everything happens. And we live in different countries!
аватар agent_borabora
If the visa is not intended to be used, then it must be cancelled.
Better cross the border for one day. Otherwise, the next time you apply for a visa, there may be complications.
аватар sigur62
Another...
Magnetic storms or solar flares today?
аватар kolyan_cat
Agent, and you also need to go to the German consulate on the full moon, prostrate yourself and kiss the German land three times :) with words of repentance (German land is the one behind the fence), you just need to act quickly before the guards kick the fence)) )
аватар sigur62
Kolya, great idea)))
This will be the "rolling of the visa".
And if you need to "annul" - you can throw in the mouth of the orannik.
Then cancel quickly and without delay.
аватар agent_borabora
There is an official correct procedure, and there are fantasies of independent travelers for whom the law is not a decree.
Only such "advisers" do not even suspect how many people are denied on subsequent visa applications and for lesser violations.
аватар ollennka
Bora Bora, so we are all waiting with bated breath for a link from someone to the official procedure for canceling a visa with changed travel plans.
аватар sigur62
Olenka, and there will be no link.
It is customary here to call those who disagree with the opinion of the odious Yaroslav a haml, so beware)))
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