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Please tell me, we want to go in October with children (1 and 4 years old).
Is it interesting for children there? What are the conditions for them to rest? Is there a stroller in the hotel? Do I need to take food for the youngest?
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6 subscribers  • asked 2009-08-2415 years ago
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аватар Mascot71
Read on the forum http://www.turpravda.com/forum/topic.php?id=1&t=16415
аватар Chief_87
No no and one more time no))))
You will ruin your vacation
I give you a 100% guarantee.
It is better to give it for a while to grandmothers or a nanny)))
Believe me, nothing good will come of this, starting from the plane, due to the pressure drop, they feel very bad, how much I fly forever the children's cry, op, and the eternal change of packages (you know what for) ... But there are children who do not feel sick, but there are less of them
then a sharp change in climate, he will immediately fall ill (if not immediately, then upon arrival home, that’s for sure) .. then food is not made separately for children there)))
he still won’t remember anything, and you will have a million troubles, that’s for sure))
You will have to take your own food, since there is nothing to feed a one-year-old child there, and many other nuances, this is more trouble than pleasure, if you want to go to the village with your child, there are more benefits, clean air and milk)))
аватар Chief_87
Of course, the choice is yours, but if you want advice, then I express my personal point of view, and of course you decide, your child and you are responsible for his health)))
аватар Janny25
Agree with the first answer.
I could never understand mothers who pull small children on such trips. Children only suffer in them. Yes, and others are also annoyed by screams.
What is the need?
Benefits for the child - zero! Even in our Crimea, doctors advise to go for at least a month, then the child will have time to acclimatize and benefit from the sea.
And for a week or two in Egypt? What's the point?
You yourself will not rest and the baby will not have any buzz there. Have pity on him.
At the age of 4, you can already take it with you, if the child is interested in something in the kids club. and the trip will be remembered.
аватар oksana.z
To be honest, I would forbid traveling to hotels with children under 3 years old. What do you parents think? Drag a small child to a foreign country, with a different climate, and then you read on the websites: my baby got poisoned, he had a temperature and, in general, wow, wow, a bad hotel and there are no cereals there! And these eternally screaming babies, and as soon as you tune in to rest, you lie down on a sunbed, and then it starts under your ear! Do not bring such small children, you yourself are tormented, and there will be no peace for others
аватар HotLine
oksana.z, do you take advice? You are 35 years old. How many of them did you stay at home with children? Who dares to say that it is useful for a child to live without a break in a metropolis for the first five years?
аватар oksana.z
I am not for the fact that the child would sit in a metropolis, but against the fact that small children would be taken to foreign hot countries. I went to the dacha with a child up to 3 years old, after 3 and up to 10 to the Crimea (for our children this climate is milder), and from 12 she already travels with us abroad.
аватар Chief_87
I agree 100%, it’s better to go to the Crimea, take small children out into nature, that’s enough)))
And, as they say, fly wherever you want)))
No offense, just my personal opinion
аватар HotLine
Crimea and cottage.
The cottage is not discussed. Unfortunately, very few people have dachas with comfortable living conditions for small children. Dust, ambrosia, problematic drinking water, washing in the evening in a basin, a local paramedic, cooking and washing dishes, etc.
Crimea. You probably have a poor idea of ​​today's Crimea. I will not impose my opinion - read the latest reviews http://www.turpravda.com/uc/. In addition, the road to the Crimea with a child. This is a separate topic of conversation.
I am not campaigning for trips with children to Egypt. But I also consider it wrong to condemn or, even more so, "forbid".
Only two theses. First, it is wrong to travel with a small child to a place where you yourself have not been yet.
Second - if Egypt is considered a holiday destination for adults and this is not disputed by anyone, then why is it not so for children.
аватар oksana.z
I represent today's Crimea very well, because. vacationed there this year. Just, unfortunately, not everyone knows Crimea well, and places where you can have a good and great rest (my child said that it was her best vacation).
Dacha: I wonder if everyone has dachas near motorways, and are they overgrown with ambrosia? Drinking water is even worse in Egypt.
I agree, it’s wrong to go where you haven’t rested yet, and then it’s wrong to denigrate decent hotels in the reviews, where supposedly there are no conditions for children.
аватар HotLine
We are not discussing the rest of the children here, who can already say something.
There are wonderful places in Crimea. But it is simply impossible to travel to almost all these places with little ones. They are beautiful because they are hard to find.
I did not write about dachas on freeways. And you have a bad idea about the ambrosia situation. But this is well known to those who met with summer allergies. I wrote about the typical disadvantages of country rest. And he did not claim that all dachas are like that. Therefore, no need to distort.
аватар Mascot71
Hotline, Oksana. What are you talking about? 250 km from Moscow and you and your children are in a dacha paradise, my youngest, said that he no longer wants to rest in his homeland (Ukraine, Russia), but the little man will go to first grade next week. The miracle was enough for a trip by train to Azov and to Sochi, by the way, at the age of 7, he flies calmer than his dad. The eldest loves the dacha, there are friends, but she asked to break through Dates (Turkey is the last stronghold of the Germans) next year. I tried to explain that citizenship is not right, but at the age of 13 a person thinks that "dad can do anything." An adult guy, a bride girl, we are with them even to the dacha, even to the ends of the world, but the kids were never dragged anywhere, only Baba, Grandfather, dacha
аватар HotLine
We are talking about whether it is necessary to ban trips with young children to Egypt (this is how oksana.z formulates its opinion, see above).
And I understand you - the children have grown up, two out of three do not share the opinion of the pope about the dacha paradise, and the one who shares, nevertheless wants a miracle from the pope, and not to the dacha. Did I understand correctly?
I did not understand only your position on the question asked.
And what about those who have been a city dweller for at least four generations? Those. there is no Baba, grandfather with a dacha 250 km away.
аватар Mascot71
Well, to ban it, of course, is nonsense. This is actually a purely personal matter, I formulated my position on the forum, but I repeat, I think that only a few kids normally endure a sharp change in climate, and crazy parents who sunbathe in the sun at 13 days and keep children with them, unfortunately very lot. As for the metropolis, I sympathize, but you can be patient until the child is 5 years old.
аватар oksana.z
I agree with Mascot71!
But if Egypt is the only panacea for your little one (the world is much bigger than you imagine), then it's up to you.
аватар oksana.z
Ha, look at the profile of Hotline, they need to soar vouchers, but they don’t give a damn about children!
аватар HotLine
I offered someone here to buy tickets?
I wrote the first message on this thread only because I saw your call for a ban on traveling with children. Some wildness.
If you consider yourself an expert, then answer to the point and do not turn the answers of experts into a bazaar.
If you looked at my profile, then at the same time look at my rating. And this is despite the fact that I have never lisped with anyone here.
аватар oksana.z
This is the last post. You are not an expert for me, but a network of agencies!
аватар HotLine
There are people who find it hard, if not their last word. It is better to read the thread again and try to understand what was asked and what you recommended. And respect for the opinions of other people is a necessary condition for intelligence and culture.
What do you do in your free time from traveling?
аватар Elenka31
I completely agree with Oksana...up to 10 years old, children have nothing to do abroad. This is tiring for both parents and children.
аватар Chief_87
What do you agree with for parents?
Of course, it all depends on the parents, but in the end it's still not a vacation))
аватар HotLine
Oh, it's been 10 years.
Those. if there are 3 children in the family, then at the age of 17 it is impossible for the family to go on vacation abroad. Feel sorry for the older child.
And who said that it is easy to raise children. It is hard work. And if parents do something wrong, then ungrateful
аватар Chief_87
Yes))
I also think 10 is a lot.
From the age of 6, it's time to show the world, and before that you can get by with camps, sanatoriums, recreation centers, etc.
From the age of 6, he already understands where he is going and why, but until that moment they don’t care)) so don’t be zealous))
аватар Rina_R
For Chief_87: Do you have a child? How old is he? Or explain what you are guided by when determining the age limit for children: when and where can you start traveling? And, by the way, how is the recreation center fundamentally different from a 5 * hotel for relaxing with a child (well, except for the conditions)? And at the expense of the camps, I didn’t understand at all: send a child under 6 years old to the camp or go there with the child?
аватар Elenka31
Hotline, and who told you that older children cannot travel. You can and should. But you can leave the little ones for grandmothers.
For Rina: the recreation center is different both in climatic conditions and expensive (in the flight route)
аватар Elenka31
Hotline, and who told you that older children cannot travel. You can and should. But you can leave the little ones for grandmothers.
For Rina: the recreation center is different both in climatic conditions and expensive (in the flight route)
аватар Rina_R
For Elenka31 Well, now it's clear. And then usually all the supporters of "do not take children on vacation" first of all offer to think about others, i.e. about them. So people also live in recreation centers :-) And as for the flight, due to life circumstances, I had to fly on airplanes, starting from infancy, which I endured much better than my mother (and this state of affairs remained for life) . However, acclimatization too. Children, like everyone else, are very different from each other.
And at the expense of everything else, then I will repeat the question to you: Do you have a child? How old is he?
аватар HotLine
By the way, I also have a personal experience. Knife wound in childhood. I helped my grandmother in the village. And parents in Sochi had a rest. Then they paid for this vacation for five years.
аватар Chief_87
Rina_R answering your question, I am guided solely by experience, small children are not comfortable there and parents too))
I'm not responsible for everyone
It's my opinion))
аватар Rina_R
Well, this is again an abstraction, as for me :-) No conditions? Hot? Windy? Humid? And most importantly, it is not clear why at 5 (5.5) years old it is not comfortable, but at 6 it is already possible? :-) And at the expense of children, it was just interesting to know what you are guided by when determining when children are already interested and when they are not. If you had your own child, you could talk about him. If you were a kindergarten teacher, you would generalize to a group of children. :-) But anyway - children are also different from each other, like adults: one suits someone, another. By the way, I am not a supporter of holidays in Egypt - I just don’t like it: neither myself nor with children, but I wouldn’t decide for others without specific negative points, but only in general phrases. :-)
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