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What about prices at the beginning of March, no one knows? Is it supposed to be cheaper?
Due to the closure of Egypt for the Russians, travel agencies do not throw off price tags?
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Muscovites have the opportunity to relax in Egypt after March 1
"Until February 28, tours to Egypt are not sold, and from March 1 we can book a tour. As we were told, programs will be resumed in March. Now you can make an advance payment, and if the recommendation of the Foreign Ministry is not withdrawn, we will return the money," she said. manager of one of the travel agencies.
http://www.rg.ru/2011/02/18/turizm-egypt-anons.html
And you can look at the prices on Tez, Anex, there are already data for Moscow
"Until February 28, tours to Egypt are not sold, and from March 1 we can book a tour. As we were told, programs will be resumed in March. Now you can make an advance payment, and if the recommendation of the Foreign Ministry is not withdrawn, we will return the money," she said. manager of one of the travel agencies.
http://www.rg.ru/2011/02/18/turizm-egypt-anons.html
And you can look at the prices on Tez, Anex, there are already data for Moscow
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answered 13 years ago
March tours have never been so cheap. Whether the price will drop depends on many factors. Nobody can say this today. Especially with uncertain start dates for the charter program. Yes, and losses must be compensated for by something.
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answered 13 years ago
The site http://www.otpusk.com/ with tours is just a comedy! Hotels 3 * are more expensive than 5 *, it is simply not possible to understand this pricing. I understand that the stars there are conditional, but not to the same extent. And the prices of Ukrainian tour operators simply do not serve the logic. An example, in the same hotel, on the same day, the same conditions from Odessa costs for two at least 50, or even all $ 200 more than from Kyiv. Although the flight back and forth is shorter by 1000 km, that is, much less fuel is spent. I could not get a real answer to such pricing.
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answered 13 years ago
This is not a comedy. This is a reflection of the state of the market. A number of pre-revolutionary SPO remained in force. Some of the operators, taking into account the low load, did not change the prices for low-level hotels. He did not have time or is not interested in taking tourists to these hotels now.
Therefore, if you see the price of a three-ruble note more than the price of five, then you can be sure that the prices for this three-point mark were released before the crisis and the operator is not going to deal with tours to this three-point mark, i.e. did not update prices. Till.
This is another confirmation of what I wrote above - prices have already been lowered and there were no such cheap tours in March.
You have not yet compared prices by operators - otpusk.com gives the lowest price. If we compare by operators, then the picture is even more interesting. There hasn't been such a mess for a long time.
Therefore, if you see the price of a three-ruble note more than the price of five, then you can be sure that the prices for this three-point mark were released before the crisis and the operator is not going to deal with tours to this three-point mark, i.e. did not update prices. Till.
This is another confirmation of what I wrote above - prices have already been lowered and there were no such cheap tours in March.
You have not yet compared prices by operators - otpusk.com gives the lowest price. If we compare by operators, then the picture is even more interesting. There hasn't been such a mess for a long time.
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answered 13 years ago
I was just starting from the prices on otpusk.com. It is impossible to really understand what the prices will be, if they are. But still, someone will be able to explain the difference in prices when flying from Odessa and Kyiv. This is generally absurd.
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answered 13 years ago
I already wrote. It's not a comedy and it's not absurd. This is the state of the market. All prices are real.
We have an application for departure on February 27 for 4 days to be confirmed. Everyone is on holidays and vacations.
We have an application for departure on February 27 for 4 days to be confirmed. Everyone is on holidays and vacations.
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answered 13 years ago
The difference in the cost of tours from Odessa and Kyiv did not happen yesterday. I have been flying to Egypt from Kyiv for the fourth year already, and even taking into account the road, it is still cheaper.
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answered 13 years ago
And all four years you are surprised?
Do you know that it can be even cheaper from Moscow than from Kyiv. And this is another 1000 km.
And all the neighboring regions of Russia fly from Kharkov.
And direct flights to Bangkok are always more expensive than flights with transfers. Etc. etc.
Do you know that it can be even cheaper from Moscow than from Kyiv. And this is another 1000 km.
And all the neighboring regions of Russia fly from Kharkov.
And direct flights to Bangkok are always more expensive than flights with transfers. Etc. etc.
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answered 13 years ago
The price of goods depends not only on the cost price. But also from market factors.
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answered 13 years ago
They fly from Moscow by Russian charters, this was explained to me a long time ago. But why within the country such a difference has not received an answer. The market factor is not the answer.
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answered 13 years ago
Can you please tell me why the prices have changed so drastically? Alone in the morning, but by lunchtime it's already $100 more expensive????
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answered 13 years ago
Have you seen Pegasus? Apparently the tickets are running out, so the prices have been raised. All the same, those who wish to come on these dates will come and buy at any price, since others have already been sold or, as in this case, Pegasus with Coral flies on one plane on February 26. How many seats are there in the Boeing?
So if you need to fly, and there is a suitable price, then you need to book, and not wait. Last-minute trips happen when there are many flights, not single ones. There will be no low prices in March.
So if you need to fly, and there is a suitable price, then you need to book, and not wait. Last-minute trips happen when there are many flights, not single ones. There will be no low prices in March.
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answered 13 years ago
to miki08. And how does the Russian nature of charters affect the cost? Think a little. The price of fuel one way cannot compensate for the additional 2,000 km of travel.
By the way, the price from Moscow is not always cheaper. Not always.
By the way, the price from Moscow is not always cheaper. Not always.
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answered 13 years ago
Tour, let's say Tez Tour to Egypt has the same price from Moscow, from Odessa. Everything else is the cost of the charter and the fact that intermediaries will rip you off. The fact that it is cheaper by charter from Moscow is the problem of Russian airlines and their policy.
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answered 13 years ago
If you are not interested in understanding how pricing works in the market, then you write or do not answer. Because we continue to communicate here together, but whether you need it is not clear. You seem to be stating something, but each of your posts contains erroneous statements from which you draw erroneous conclusions.
From the last post - what are these greedy intermediaries between TEZTUR and a tourist who skim cream on tours from Odessa? Agencies sell at TEZTUR prices, they even give discounts from these prices. Any adequate tourist knows the operator of his tour and the operator's price for this tour. Price trading is only within the limits of the agency's commission. Today TEZTUR, for example, has set a single commission for all agents - 10%. Within these 10% and there is trade. Tomorrow you will be able to independently book a tour directly with the operator without intermediaries at all.
Further. The fact that it is cheaper by charter from Moscow is not a problem, but an achievement. But I have already hinted to you several times before - it's not only and not so much in the price of the charter. After all, you started with this - why is it more expensive from Odessa.
From the last post - what are these greedy intermediaries between TEZTUR and a tourist who skim cream on tours from Odessa? Agencies sell at TEZTUR prices, they even give discounts from these prices. Any adequate tourist knows the operator of his tour and the operator's price for this tour. Price trading is only within the limits of the agency's commission. Today TEZTUR, for example, has set a single commission for all agents - 10%. Within these 10% and there is trade. Tomorrow you will be able to independently book a tour directly with the operator without intermediaries at all.
Further. The fact that it is cheaper by charter from Moscow is not a problem, but an achievement. But I have already hinted to you several times before - it's not only and not so much in the price of the charter. After all, you started with this - why is it more expensive from Odessa.
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answered 13 years ago
I don't need hints, I need an answer to a simple question. You don't give an answer. What is happening with prices in Ukraine does not fit into the usual logic. It follows from this that either prices are taken from the ceiling or someone is simply trying to cash in. That's why my friends and I fly through Kyiv and things are not about money, but in principle. I think I won’t get an answer here, I need to go straight to the same Tez Tour and ask them a specific question.
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answered 13 years ago
Prices are rising and will continue to rise, there are almost no seats left on flights, there are already not enough seats for 2.5, so prices are being raised
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answered 13 years ago
I have already answered your question. But you don't want to understand it. Try to treat prices as if they were real. And not from your position "just a comedy", "intermediaries will rip off", "generally absurd", etc.
ANY price has two sides. From below, it rests on the economy - on the cost price. And you come from an economic point of view. But there is another side of the price, which you called "someone is just trying to cash in." It sounds right - prices from above are regulated by market mechanisms - consumer demand and competition.
In your case, this can be stated as follows - for the existing Odessa charter program, there are a sufficient number of tourists in Odessa who are willing to overpay for the convenience of flying and flying to their hometown and not traveling to Kyiv and back.
ANY price has two sides. From below, it rests on the economy - on the cost price. And you come from an economic point of view. But there is another side of the price, which you called "someone is just trying to cash in." It sounds right - prices from above are regulated by market mechanisms - consumer demand and competition.
In your case, this can be stated as follows - for the existing Odessa charter program, there are a sufficient number of tourists in Odessa who are willing to overpay for the convenience of flying and flying to their hometown and not traveling to Kyiv and back.
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answered 13 years ago
Again you do not want to understand.
According to your logic and your arguments, the people of Kiev are richer than the Muscovites, and the richest in the CIS are the Lugansk people, since they have the most expensive tours.
According to your logic and your arguments, the people of Kiev are richer than the Muscovites, and the richest in the CIS are the Lugansk people, since they have the most expensive tours.
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answered 13 years ago
Well, if they pay, then the richest, this is logic, but not mine.
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answered 13 years ago
I'm also at a loss here (not the first year)
for example, from the Dnieper, prices are much more expensive
than from neighboring Zaporozhye
for the same hotels, dates
and I'm not talking about
that similar tours from the Dnieper and Kyiv
stand well with a very large margin
how to explain it? - enigmatic)))
for example, from the Dnieper, prices are much more expensive
than from neighboring Zaporozhye
for the same hotels, dates
and I'm not talking about
that similar tours from the Dnieper and Kyiv
stand well with a very large margin
how to explain it? - enigmatic)))
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answered 13 years ago
Zlata28 So I tried to get a reasonable answer, for example, the airport takes more fees, the airline, due to the quality of GDP, requires more for a flight from this airfield. Fuel costs more. And the answer is a play on words.
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answered 13 years ago
I can only repeat again.
For the existing Odessa (Zaporozhye, Lugansk, etc.) charter program, there is a sufficient number of tourists in Odessa (Zaporozhye, Luhansk, etc.) who are willing to overpay for the convenience of flying and flying to their hometown and not traveling to Kyiv and back .
For the existing Odessa (Zaporozhye, Lugansk, etc.) charter program, there is a sufficient number of tourists in Odessa (Zaporozhye, Luhansk, etc.) who are willing to overpay for the convenience of flying and flying to their hometown and not traveling to Kyiv and back .
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answered 13 years ago
You are contradicting yourself. "Today TEZTUR, for example, has set a single commission for all agents - 10%." - these are your words. Airlines are the same Ukrainian. So who gets the walrus? and for what? "tourists who are willing to overpay for the convenience of flying and landing in their hometown." If sellers are not allowed to take more than 10%. After all, I pay the agent money?
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answered 13 years ago
And the agent receives a commission from TEZ - 10% of the cost of the package tour minus the discount he gave you.
After all, you wrote a high price from the fact that "that intermediaries will rip you off." And I answered you - Odessa intermediaries "rip off" as much as everyone else in Ukraine. Those. this cannot be the reason for the high prices from Odessa.
It's not me that's a bad explainer, it's you who don't want to understand standard market mechanisms.
After all, you wrote a high price from the fact that "that intermediaries will rip you off." And I answered you - Odessa intermediaries "rip off" as much as everyone else in Ukraine. Those. this cannot be the reason for the high prices from Odessa.
It's not me that's a bad explainer, it's you who don't want to understand standard market mechanisms.
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answered 13 years ago
Yesterday was February 23, old friends came to congratulate, there are still people who celebrate this holiday. Everyone was interested in who I correspond with. When I showed our dialogue with you, they were simply delighted with you. Truth! Considering that many people work with finance, your explanations, even the inhabitants of Odessa, made them doubt their competence. As one bank employee said, you have to learn from UVT.
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answered 13 years ago
Dear miki08, it's hard for you to explain anything in a conventional way of communication, because you think in a completely different way. I wanted to know more about the person, I found your review on the Royal Palace Hotel. From your review, I didn’t understand anything that you wanted to say, to whom you have claims.
"I am not an employee of a tour company, I rested in this hotel in December, the room in the main building fully corresponded to 4 *, the plumbing worked, the room was comfortable, the furniture was in good condition, everything was cleaned. The restaurant had a choice, the same as in almost all of Egypt.
One thing I don't understand is how you can compare a $245 NB tour from Kyiv with a similar tour for 1000 Euro BB in the EU. Yes, you can’t even rest in a tent on the Black Sea coast with hard money. Please stop lying about the EU with the same omelettes and soy sausages, and the rooms are not better, but there is no place like this."
They clearly explained to you: WHAT DEMAND, SUCH PRICE. They buy at this high price from you in Odessa, the plane is filling up, which means they will keep prices. Maybe vouchers are on fire somewhere else and you need to compensate. If you want to save money, fly from Kyiv, Moscow. And intermediaries travel agents equally have both in Odessa and in Kyiv - 10% minus discounts for tourists (up to 5%).
"I am not an employee of a tour company, I rested in this hotel in December, the room in the main building fully corresponded to 4 *, the plumbing worked, the room was comfortable, the furniture was in good condition, everything was cleaned. The restaurant had a choice, the same as in almost all of Egypt.
One thing I don't understand is how you can compare a $245 NB tour from Kyiv with a similar tour for 1000 Euro BB in the EU. Yes, you can’t even rest in a tent on the Black Sea coast with hard money. Please stop lying about the EU with the same omelettes and soy sausages, and the rooms are not better, but there is no place like this."
They clearly explained to you: WHAT DEMAND, SUCH PRICE. They buy at this high price from you in Odessa, the plane is filling up, which means they will keep prices. Maybe vouchers are on fire somewhere else and you need to compensate. If you want to save money, fly from Kyiv, Moscow. And intermediaries travel agents equally have both in Odessa and in Kyiv - 10% minus discounts for tourists (up to 5%).
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