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Dear experts, if you buy an excursion in Egypt not from a tour operator, thus saving money, what will it threaten with the occurrence of an insured event?
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Most of the savings come from the tourist. We took through Coral for $ 160 per person (there were two) a trip to Cairo and Alexandria. As a result, there was a normal bus, meals, a night in Cairo in a 5 * hotel, all museums, guides are good, in the evening a boat on the Nile. And in Moscow we were offered for 60 dollars per person. It turned out that to go by regular bus (with the local population), the price includes only the pyramids and the sphinx. In Alexandria, I didn’t understand at all, but the bus is also a scheduled one. For the museum of Ramses II, the amphitheater, etc., you will have to pay separately. Yes, and for all meals in 2 days, too. It's better to bargain, they gave us a 10% discount, but it's very interesting, the organization is very worthy. Plus, Coral, as an operator, bears the risk of insurance, in the case of a cheaper option, of course, there is no insurance at all. And by the way, this case does not fall under travel insurance - you went on your own, without a tour operator! Think for yourself!
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answered 14 years ago
Dear tourists. Definitely, take it from your tour operator ... you can paint horror stories for a long time about cases when tourists bought tours from street agencies, but remember - the miser pays twice.
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answered 14 years ago
Any force majeure that happens to you during a "left" excursion threatens you not only with impressive expenses, but also with hassle in a foreign country: not being a supporter of domestic insurance companies, I nevertheless understand that they will help at least somehow. And they won’t help on the spot - you can always go to court upon your return.
A standard insurance contract (it’s a pity that rarely anyone reads it) often provides for insurance liability only for what happened to a tourist on the territory of a hotel or in the presence of an operator’s representative (for example, on excursions).
You can conclude an individual contract before the trip, but it is more expensive and it is unlikely that the cheapness of a dubious excursion will pay for it.
A standard insurance contract (it’s a pity that rarely anyone reads it) often provides for insurance liability only for what happened to a tourist on the territory of a hotel or in the presence of an operator’s representative (for example, on excursions).
You can conclude an individual contract before the trip, but it is more expensive and it is unlikely that the cheapness of a dubious excursion will pay for it.
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answered 14 years ago
Practice has shown that if you take a tour from a local tour operator, or from a representative of your tour company, in the best case you will find yourself in the same bus, and in the worst case, in the left one, you don’t have to go far for an example. This summer, a bus crashed on the road to Cairo, people died and suffered, a mother and daughter from St. Petersburg were on this bus, they bought names from the Turovites, and that they were simply thrown and refused to talk to them. The insurance is only on the premises of the hotel, and the rest is a real lie, unless you have bought individual insurance.
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answered 14 years ago
We bought excursions not from a tour operator and were very satisfied. The organization of the tour was at a high level, without any costs. When we talked with vacationers who went on the same excursion from a tour operator, we were pleasantly surprised that we saw more and they brought us to the Dead Sea at 15:00, when it’s warm there and other shops work, except for a special one, where prices are many times higher, and not at 6 in the morning, when it’s cold. The guides serve the same ones. The buses are big, new, and the drivers in Egypt are all the same Schumachers. I don’t think that, if God forbid, something happens on a trip from a tour operator, then you will get insurance without a lawyer, because any accident can be interpreted in different ways. And the difference in price is decent. So everyone decides for himself, but in any case, do not unconditionally trust the tour operators, they like to intimidate and lie a lot.
We were told that we could not go for a walk to Eilat on our own, that they would not let us out of Taba to Russia, it turned out they were lying.
We were told that we could not go for a walk to Eilat on our own, that they would not let us out of Taba to Russia, it turned out they were lying.
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answered 14 years ago
That's it if someone read it .. You are NOT insured by a tour operator, but by an insurance company ... You are insured FOR the duration of the trip! (TOTAL!!!), and not at all on excursions with a certain operator. Even inside the policy it is written - CONDITIONS OF INSURANCE OF CITIZENS FOR THE TIME OF TRAVEL. There is not a single word in the contract about the tour operator. When will we stop not only listening to all the nonsense that the guides blow into our ears, but also, having thought, we will not retell it to others ??
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answered 14 years ago
We bought excursions in Naama in a small tour agency - we were very satisfied! Exactly at the appointed time, a bus rolled up and took me on an excursion, the guide spoke in Russian and English, everything was very civilized ...
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answered 14 years ago
For Nick. It's not as easy as you write. Insurance is issued for the country and time of travel, but not for all events. For example, policies have a list of documents in case of accidents, among them there is an accident report. There are phrases about perceived risks. Buying a service that is subject to licensing from someone who does not work quite formally is a conscious risk. Or the situation - today it happened, and tomorrow to fly out. Etc.
Just don't get me wrong. I do not urge to buy from the operator. I have no interest in this. We tell our tourists like this - buy anywhere, but with the awareness of what these risks are and what the consequences may be. To have no illusions.
Just don't get me wrong. I do not urge to buy from the operator. I have no interest in this. We tell our tourists like this - buy anywhere, but with the awareness of what these risks are and what the consequences may be. To have no illusions.
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answered 14 years ago
I did not risk: I always bought all excursions only at the hotel from the tour operator. And I never had any complaints. Comfortable buses, excellent guides, interesting excursions.
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answered 14 years ago
I completely agree with Nichka, indeed you are insured for the duration of the entire trip, but the insurance that is given to you practically does not give you any rights, you read what is written there, it's such a scam - it's not at all clear why we take this insurance. Under this insurance, no matter what happens - get sick, accident, sunburn, etc. etc. it's all uninsurable...
It's just that this time I carefully read what is written in my insurance from Reso-Guarantee, though for this I had to arm myself with a magnifying glass, because. all this was written in such a font that even a person with good eyesight could not read ...
As for the excursions, the first two trips were bought from a tour operator, then they were taken from local travel agencies, and the quality was good there and there, the difference was only in price, the locals were cheaper.
It's just that this time I carefully read what is written in my insurance from Reso-Guarantee, though for this I had to arm myself with a magnifying glass, because. all this was written in such a font that even a person with good eyesight could not read ...
As for the excursions, the first two trips were bought from a tour operator, then they were taken from local travel agencies, and the quality was good there and there, the difference was only in price, the locals were cheaper.
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answered 14 years ago
All scarecrows and horror stories about "street agencies" are told by tour operators who need to sell tours and earn money for their own pocket. Moreover, these same representatives of tour operators sometimes go to direct threats to inexperienced tourists. In Egypt, I bought only one sea excursion from a tour operator. Bought the next one from a friend. A friend's ship and food turned out to be better. There are far fewer people on the boat. And the price is almost half the price. In Turkey, I didn’t buy a single one; they traveled everywhere from a private agency. All were very satisfied. Savings on 5 excursions amounted to $ 80 per person.
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answered 14 years ago
for Lumila. The cost of individual insurance rarely exceeds 20-30 dollars.
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answered 14 years ago
I only remembered about my insurance that if I died on a trip, the insurance payment would be 14.5 million rubles (0.5 million dollars). Apparently, I was taken care of not only by my guardian angel, but also by an angel agent from Rosno, since there were not even prerequisites for danger! Elementary rules of sanitation and hygiene - and even national cuisine was accepted by my stomach with pleasure! Less fear, more confidence and the mood to relax!
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I also do not urge to buy or not to buy - everyone decides for himself. And God forbid you never get into a situation with an insured event, but it seems to me that you won’t get the truth with anyone! at least 1000 times fill out the acts and buy from licensed companies. IMHO
I also do not urge to buy or not to buy - everyone decides for himself. And God forbid you never get into a situation with an insured event, but it seems to me that you won’t get the truth with anyone! at least 1000 times fill out the acts and buy from licensed companies. IMHO
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answered 14 years ago
People just need to tell the truth! There is a beach tour, and insurance is only for this, and if you arbitrarily left the zone, went to the sea, or took a bus outside of this, you yourself violated the contract with the insurance company. There are sightseeing tours for traveling around Egypt, for example, the Egyptian civilization, and there is another completely insurance policy there.
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answered 14 years ago
for 10 trips to Egypt with different tour operators, I have never seen insurance for a "beach" tour ...
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answered 14 years ago
This is the problem, that most people are completely unaware of what insurance covers, and when they get into problem situations, then they are very bitter. To all those who like to travel around Egypt, having bought a beach tour, I advise you to do like Ruslan33.
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answered 14 years ago
This topic has been discussed here a million times already.
it's very simple, prioritize
if saving money is more important to you
then take excursions on the street
it's very simple, prioritize
if saving money is more important to you
then take excursions on the street
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answered 14 years ago
Dear Zlata28, more important than what? It's not just about saving money. Often, excursions bought "on the street" are better organized, and the groups are smaller in number, which is also a plus. It's all about who will answer if, what- will it ever happen during such an excursion and will he answer at all? No need to be deceived by hopes for tour operators, as soon as an insured event occurs, they will do everything possible and impossible to qualify it not in favor of the victim, but in their own. Do not agree? Well, for the sake of Why then buy a tour more expensive?
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answered 14 years ago
S.Tatyana maybe I'm so "lucky", I don't know...
but I did exactly the opposite,
excursions purchased at the hotel are better organized.
I am not agitating anyone to buy excursions somewhere
But for myself I decided
that simple and short excursions
can be bought on the street
but if the excursion is long-distance (like Luxor)
then all the same at the hotel guide - I feel so calm
I'm not going to argue with anyone :)
but I did exactly the opposite,
excursions purchased at the hotel are better organized.
I am not agitating anyone to buy excursions somewhere
But for myself I decided
that simple and short excursions
can be bought on the street
but if the excursion is long-distance (like Luxor)
then all the same at the hotel guide - I feel so calm
I'm not going to argue with anyone :)
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answered 14 years ago
As an Arab in our hotel explained to me, local guys often do not have travel insurance at all. And so they have a tour can be at a very high level
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answered 14 years ago
And where do they take tours of Tez, Turtez, Pegasus, and all the others, from the same local guys, they only put the difference in their pocket.
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As I understand the scheme, the tour is done according to the principle: there is an organizer of the tour, it is either a paid guide from the operator or a local private trader. He subcontracts a bus, hires guides in other cities, buys tickets to museums, organizes meals and overnight stays in hotels. Because type operators value the name, they choose the whitest schemes plus add insurance and their profits and taxes. The local private trader does all the same, including his own profit, but through smartness or cheaper subcontracting, lack of insurance and taxes, it turns out much cheaper. Plus, he can afford to give a discount from his profit as an owner, because the standard level of his profit is approximately comparable to the margin of tour operators
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answered 14 years ago
In Egita, let's say there are serious tour companies in Hurghada, they have their own buses, guides, and the whole infrastructure, there is no talk about local private traders. You come to the company yourself, they offer you any options, up to a luxury car, with a personal guide, so hotel representatives at best take tours for you there, plus baksheesh, the same as with a visa, glue the brand yourself $ 15 , if the representative of the tour company, then $ 20 is nothing personal, pure business.
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answered 14 years ago
Coral, from which I recently traveled, does not buy a ready-made tour from anyone and adds baksheesh. Firstly, we were accompanied by a guide from Coral all the way. Secondly, we were given insurance. Already, you see, it’s not just buying up a ticket! There are analogues in Russia: transport companies organize visits to different places, but there are tours from tour operators. And they do not just buy tours from transport companies, they organize tours themselves, hiring buses, hotels, determining THEIR routes and museums
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answered 14 years ago
Egypt is a specific country, and many people who have been there once, because of the service and food, do not want to go there the second time, let's say far from Europe. Only fans of the Red Sea and sunbathing go there. Having been to Luxor for the first time, and the second time to the pyramids, I simply won’t go again, I don’t want to play Russian roulette just because local drivers drive not according to traffic rules, but according to sound signals. That's why, as they explained in Kyiv, it is unprofitable for representatives of the Tez tour to maintain their infrastructure on the ground, for travel, although when the season is high and there is a large flow of tourists, they do this by concluding direct contracts, but these are most likely exceptions to the rule.
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answered 14 years ago
Dear miki08, it’s a pity that Egypt didn’t let you into their soul! Believe me, not only fans of the Red Sea and sunbathing go to this country, and not only service and food people live. (By the way, I have always been lucky with both others). You don’t have to always look up to Europe, here people have a completely different mentality, you just need to accept it as it is, well, if it doesn’t work out, then go with God to your Europe.
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answered 14 years ago
Yes, let at least lovers of camels, the main thing is that they clearly understand which country they are going to and not be deceived in their expectations.
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