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We are flying with the 2nd child to Egypt, the child's mother made a power of attorney in her own way. passport, I have doubts that my son will not be allowed through. who knows, write. called the border service - do not know
We are flying with the 2nd child to Egypt, the child's mother made a power of attorney in her own way. passport, I have doubts that my son will not be allowed through. who knows, write. called the border service - do not know
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The question is, why did they make a power of attorney abroad? But, if the notary made such a power of attorney (although they usually don’t care if they paid the money, but if it were wrong, then the notary would have announced this point, anyway). The notary who has a license for his type of activity and is responsible for the correctness of his work is responsible for the correctness of the issued power of attorney. He knows the rules for issuing such documents. Ask the mother of the child whether the notary warned her that an internal passport is needed for a power of attorney? If not, then apparently there’s nothing to worry about. It’s strange what exactly “we don’t know” was answered by the border service to your question. When I had questions about the power of attorney and the export of children abroad, they clearly answered all my questions. And a foreign passport is also an official document (there was a moment when I thought that I had lost my passport and, while searching for it, I presented it everywhere (including at the bank). I won’t say, but I think that there should be no problems.
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answered 5 years ago
When I was traveling with a child, my husband made a power of attorney (permission) on his internal passport. At customs, they also looked at the passport and birth certificate of the child.
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answered 5 years ago
my_contakt and forysja thanks for the reply
The notary that issued a power of attorney, guaranteed travel abroad, allegedly there will be no problems. I personally called 6 notaries 3 said everything is legal, the 3rd said no.
I repeat on the hot, border line. the service answered 50/50, it all depends on who will be on duty.
In our country, the human factor decides, the law is so
The notary that issued a power of attorney, guaranteed travel abroad, allegedly there will be no problems. I personally called 6 notaries 3 said everything is legal, the 3rd said no.
I repeat on the hot, border line. the service answered 50/50, it all depends on who will be on duty.
In our country, the human factor decides, the law is so
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answered 5 years ago
You and your child are going abroad. The mother of the child must issue a Permit (consent, power of attorney) for the departure of a minor child with his father. Such a document is called an "Application", drawn up by a notary, while a notary must issue a special form, which must be presented at border control points.
Notarial procedures are carried out according to the internal documents of the applicant (internal passport, birth certificate of the child).
Documents when issuing a permit for a child to travel abroad:
- both parents provide consent (parents' passports: if the child travels abroad not with the parents, but with a third party);
- one of the parents gives consent (passport of one of the parents: if the child travels abroad with one of the parents);
- registration number of the taxpayer's account card (identification (tax) number).
- birth certificate of the child.
Notarial procedures are carried out according to the internal documents of the applicant (internal passport, birth certificate of the child).
Documents when issuing a permit for a child to travel abroad:
- both parents provide consent (parents' passports: if the child travels abroad not with the parents, but with a third party);
- one of the parents gives consent (passport of one of the parents: if the child travels abroad with one of the parents);
- registration number of the taxpayer's account card (identification (tax) number).
- birth certificate of the child.
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answered 5 years ago
lazy_person thanks for the detailed information, but the question remains open, will they miss it or not?
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answered 5 years ago
I also received a pension under the Passport (there was no internal passport). But this is not an argument. The border guards have their own instructions and protocols. Guessing: - "It will pass ... will not pass?". This is not the case, you will be exhausted before the trip. Maybe it's better to arrange it as it should, while there is time?
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answered 5 years ago
of course, it is easier and better to issue a new credibility according to the Ukrainian passport, unfortunately there is no such possibility yet, so I came to the forum
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answered 5 years ago
Well, that is, everything is not just like that ... there is no internal passport. At the border, it will be the same as with notary offices - someone will pass and so (the main thing is the presence of permission), and someone will say no and that's it and your child will not go anywhere. Your situation is very specific, I’m not sure that someone will be able to share such an experience, and again, if someone went through without problems, then there is no 100% guarantee that you will not be wrapped.
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answered 5 years ago
If the notary has issued a power of attorney, then everything will be OK !!!
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answered 5 years ago
norhin - Not required. The notary told us that I would write whatever you want, but I can’t guarantee whether they will let me in at customs.
And considering that the border service gave the author a 50/50 guarantee - just like 3 notaries out of 6 refused, it’s not a fact ...
And considering that the border service gave the author a 50/50 guarantee - just like 3 notaries out of 6 refused, it’s not a fact ...
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answered 5 years ago
If the mother accompanies (escorts) the child before passing the control (this has already happened more than once), there will be no problems. Show vouchers and return tickets at the checkpoint. The original power of attorney is required. It also does not hurt to take with you a copy of the mother's international passport and a general civil one, (the page where the "children's" stamp is located). My goddaughter regularly flies either with her mother or with her father.
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answered 5 years ago
travelsita, What are you heaping up here ...... Firstly, it's just that (internal passport) is not there. Therefore, the question arose. And children's stamps have not been put in passports for a long time (I have three and there is not a word about this in my passport))) And the idea of u200bu200baccompanying the account to control is somehow from the realm of fantasy, since only those who have registered on the flight and passed the check of carried hand luggage, etc. ... and they definitely don’t let those who have nothing to do with the flight go there. A copy of the mother's passport (and in this case it is only a foreign passport) does not make any sense at all, it is indicated in the permit and no one requires this part to be presented. But the original birth certificate is definitely needed.
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answered 5 years ago
my_contact! Dear! You rewarded. Write about nothing. If the second parent accompanies the child, the issues are settled. There is a senior border control shift with whom such issues are resolved. Last year, a mistake was made in the power of attorney for my friends, because of which they did not want to release their nephews. The father of the children accompanied. The children and those accompanying them were rounded up at the border control and the father, who was in the waiting room, was called to a special room. The issue was settled. If you have not encountered and do not know, do not write. I myself know how the customs and border control goes. The more evidence provided, the better.
P.S. Your phrase "I have three ..." in almost every answer "slightly" got it.
P.S. Your phrase "I have three ..." in almost every answer "slightly" got it.
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answered 5 years ago
Dear travelsita, what upsets you or got you that "someone has three" is only your problem. I, as a person who often flies with children of different ages (the eldest from my first marriage, and in order to take her out there were constant troubles and what just didn’t happen with permission and documents, so I also know what I’m talking about, although yes, everything was decided at the control window, except for one time when she had to be left at home, but there were other reasons). And when drawing up documents, I check every letter, because we are all people and anyone can make a mistake, and the result will not be the most rosy. I am glad that everything was decided this way with your friends, but about the "children's stamps" which have not been set for a long time, although in the old and still valid foreign country all my children are inscribed and two older ones are pasted (but you were talking about the internal one) photocopies of the passport ( no one will even watch them, because they only need the originals), but maybe the parent sitting in the waiting room will help with something. Possibly, but not a fact.
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answered 5 years ago
many thanks to everyone for the advice, the option to take my mother with me seemed the best of the proposed ones, thanks again!
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answered 5 years ago
For a long time, no powers of attorney are needed if the child is with one of the parents !!! It's been canceled for a few years now.
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answered 5 years ago
nastya_81, canceled (and this is quite recent) if the parent is a foreigner. She herself was surprised by this turn, and accidentally found out about it, because her friend is married to an Iranian and she lives with a child (4 years) in Ukraine, a citizen of Ukraine. And in order to go somewhere with a child, nothing is needed from the father. But according to our standard options, permission is needed up to 15 years (it used to be), but now it seems like up to 14 years, but this needs to be clarified.
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answered 5 years ago
To travelsita: it is high time for all children to issue individual passports. Then there will be less confusion.
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answered 5 years ago
mindguru, what does individual passports have to do with it? The question is that the power of attorney is issued abroad and whether there can be problems because of this. Now the border guards are a little more loyal to the departure of children with one parent, especially with their mother. (in most cases, after a divorce, the child remains with his mother).
But, in this case, the child is traveling with his father. If questions arise at the control, and it will be possible to personally contact the mother (at the airport), there should be no problems - since both parents are present in person. In fact, a paper power of attorney is needed only to confirm the consent of the second parent without his personal presence for the child's departure.
But, in this case, the child is traveling with his father. If questions arise at the control, and it will be possible to personally contact the mother (at the airport), there should be no problems - since both parents are present in person. In fact, a paper power of attorney is needed only to confirm the consent of the second parent without his personal presence for the child's departure.
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answered 5 years ago