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In Ukraine, a coronavirus case has been officially confirmed. Do you think that now Ukraine will also be included in the list of those "not allowed to enter" Egypt?
In Ukraine, a coronavirus case has been officially confirmed. Do you think that now Ukraine will also be included in the list of those "not allowed to enter" Egypt?
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аватар Slav1
No, now in Egypt. They have sadness in tourism. If they restrict, they will get an even larger pile of unemployed
аватар vezha2
Is there such a list?
аватар zolyshka111
Definitely))))
аватар Pachok
There is a list.
Yes, we will get there, everything will definitely not be limited to one case. It's a question of time.
аватар ollennka
Kapets. Is that the only thing that worries you?)) That they won't let you into Egypt?
аватар Igor_m
Yes, kapets .... In Ukraine, we will have a rest, we will pour money into local tourism, and even into the Crimea five or six million, for example, we will hold a referendum at the same time.
аватар 0676307776
If Ukraine is included in the entry ban list, then tour operators will have to compensate for the cost of the holiday, for people who have purchased tickets in advance, because they cannot fly for no reason of their own and did not refuse tours.
аватар prosto2000
0676307776, You are wrong. Familiarize yourself with the concept of force majeure.
аватар 0676307776
Force majeure. Circumstances that relieve the parties from liability. Not only the tour operator, but also the tourist. If, due to an official ban, I, referring to force majeure, will refuse to pay the remaining cost of the tour for early booking? Could there be such an option? Although I want to believe in the best.
аватар zolyshka111
0676307776, the official ban, as I understand it, should be from Ukraine, not Egypt, then flights are canceled and this rolls under force majeure. But I don’t even know how to assess the situation, that TO brought tourists to Egypt by plane, but they were not allowed there, I don’t even know.
аватар Pachok
Will be filtered when landing in Ukraine. Azur already sent out a "manifesto" about four days ago, who will be allowed on board, who will not.
аватар mindguru
I was somewhat confused by the word "too" in the wording of the question. Why - too? Who else in the so-called. black list? Is the author of the question an insider?
аватар Pachok
Iran, China, Italy and other countries with a large number of reported cases are on the list.
аватар mindguru
Sry, didn't know. In any case, force majeure does not even smell here.
аватар zolyshka111
Pachok, and what about those who didn't go through Azur's manifesto, but bought, idiot, a tour?
аватар prosto2000
0676307776, I'm talking about your "tour operators will have to compensate for the cost of the holiday."
You don't have to.
mindguru, prohibitions of state bodies are a classic force majeure. Epidemics, natural disasters, etc. - too.
аватар mindguru
In modern international relations, the historian S.V. Maksimenko notes, military actions, strikes (especially if they are sanctioned by governments), as well as revolutions due to the “Omnipotence Paradoxes” and the “Martens Clause” during wars, have ceased to be attributed to "force majeure". Force majeure also does not recognize situations that give rise to commercial risk (for example, price changes, unfavorable market conditions, etc.), justification of the amount of the claim or lost profits.
аватар mindguru
zolyshka111, the operator has no right not to let you on the plane, since the tour is paid. Egyptian border guards have every right not to let you into their country. Is it force majeure? No. Is anyone obligated to compensate you for anything? No. Another thing is that in civilized countries, companies take care of their customers. At a minimum, hotels or even a ticket for another flight are provided free of charge. Unfortunately, Ukraine is not among the civilized countries.
аватар Pachok
Not the operator, but the AIRLINE has the right not to let you in. And it does not let, for example, on flights with transit to the South Caucasus in the absence of a British visa. A tourist's contract with an agent (or operator) always states that the latter is not responsible if the tourist has problems with entering another country - visa or related to other circumstances.
Force majeure is interpreted quite broadly, but always according to the situation, there is no canon. Force majeure can never, under any circumstances, include the fact that a tourist was not allowed into a country, especially if he was warned about possible problems.
And by the way, it's so interesting to read that "this is a force majeure, the operator must." Comrades, in case of force majeure, both (!) Parties are released from obligations.
аватар mindguru
Still, there are some minor differences between a charter flight and a scheduled flight and between resident and non-resident airlines.
аватар mindguru
There is no information on the coronovirus on the airline's website.
аватар Pachok
There is no difference between residents and non-residents in the situation under discussion. I thought about how a chartet could differ from a non-charter - I also can’t find any differences. On a charter, can an air carrier take more risks and take on board "exclusive" passengers? I don't think so, rather the opposite.
аватар prosto2000
mindguru, I'm wondering how you will refer in court to what "historian S.V. Maksimenko notes."
аватар mindguru
A good lawyer will prove both your guilt and innocence, as you choose. I would recommend that you pay special attention to the words of Pachok:
Force majeure is interpreted quite broadly, but always according to the situation, there is no canon.
аватар prosto2000
mindguru, i.e. we passed the historian. OK. Then, perhaps, you will be surprised, but there are lawyers from both sides in the court. And the judge makes the decision.
This situation is extremely simple. Just read what is written above the paragraph with the historian S. V. Maksimenko.
аватар mindguru
I do not understand you. You tell me about Foma, I tell you about Yeryoma. I see no point in continuing the discussion.
аватар prosto2000
I thought so from the beginning. Moreover, you yourself quoted the same source in which the historian's opinion points to one of the examples of force majeure - the epidemic.
And you have changed the position - from "tour operators will have to compensate for the cost of rest " to "Force majeure is interpreted quite widely, but always according to the situation, there is no canon ".
For those who "do not understand ", I quote the definition of force majeure from the contract with the tourist
"force majeure, namely: floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, epidemics ... "
аватар ollennka
This is all a side effect of ultraviolet)))).
аватар prosto2000
He did not write anything about the effect of ultraviolet radiation on the brain.
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