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Until what date is quarantine in Egypt and advise on when it is better to reschedule the tour (we are planning for the end of May)?
Until what date is quarantine in Egypt and advise on when it is better to reschedule the tour (we are planning for the end of May)?
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аватар AllOverTheWorld
Apyatka, as a doctor, you yourself say that the coronavirus is not so terrible as the imperfection of the medical system.
So why scare people with mortality, etc.
The biggest question is why all visitors were not and are not placed in compulsory quarantine, as was the case with Sanzhary?
If virologists say sooner or later more than 80% will get sick and most will not even notice it.
What is boron cheese?
аватар Vika284
Income taxes, VAT and registration of tax invoices have not been canceled and insane fines + penalties for non-payment, too, as well as reporting and fines for not submitting reports
No one has canceled payroll taxes either, there are also impressive fines for not paying salaries
but the company has no money, they paid the employees the maximum advance, and in this situation there will be no money in the account until May
Megamind tell me what to do?
"Google" and "force majeure clause" you think that all tenants are fools, they work there without lawyers and do not know about this certificate, if it was so easy, they probably did not raise the issue
аватар Apyatka
No, if we all sit down and cry together, then of course it will become easier.
And I'm not myself, of course. Not in myself, because I always try to accept the situation as it is and not whine. Maybe I'm a super brain businessman?
I'm sorry, but getting personal is ugly.
аватар Vika284
I sympathize now with all TAs in which everyone will rush to cancel tours
I would like advice from a megamind on what to do for TA employees and owners of small TAs
аватар klichko
Your energy would be yes for peaceful purposes. Why heat up an already ugly situation. They attacked the wise, positive Apyatka. Maybe she has no less problems, only the angle of view is different and her psyche is stable. There are more such people, the problems would be less. Found a girl to beat. The impression is that our people cannot live without an enemy and are especially zealous friends only on this basis. That's just the benefits of zero, some splashes ... and they can be contagious
аватар Apyatka
"The biggest question is why all visitors were not placed and are not placed in compulsory quarantine, as was the case with Sanzhary?"
When there are cases of domestic transmission of the virus, a traveler-only quarantine will no longer help.
I do not give economic advice, because I am not an economist. The advice to move is general advice for anyone who is in a panic right now. Crises will happen in the future, if a person cannot take a hit, then he is unlikely to be helped by a superbrain.
Lying on the floor in the hospital is in any case less pleasant than suffering losses.
From a medical point of view, it would be good to release only the young and healthy from quarantine, and leave the risk group for another month. Although, world statistics say that not only the sick or the elderly can get distress syndrome, but this risk will already be justified by the low incidence.
Why do you need 3 more weeks? While the evacuation is going on, we are all conditionally infected. After the end of the evacuation, at least 2 weeks must elapse.
аватар zolyshka111
Firstly, no one attacks Apyatka, but asks questions to which she has no answers, but she stubbornly advises, but not what is asked. Everyone has their own terrible situation now, someone will not go to the sea for the tenth time, and someone will soon have nothing to feed their children, as if problems from different planes and the second is more urgent than the first.
Here you are Apyatka talking about quarantine for newcomers, it won’t help when there are already infected people in the country, but after all, the space situation, the virus was brought here, because they were not quarantined upon arrival! Some kind of vicious surrealistic circle.
аватар andrik.sner
All the same, we decided to go to the end of May. But at the TO we were told that we would not wake up flights until May 1 (Azur Air) we would wait. Who has information about this?
аватар zolyshka111
andrik.sner, everyone already has information, they extended the quarantine until 24.04. Even if your Anex does not go bankrupt at all, otherwise no one will fly anywhere.
аватар veritasana
I advise... to take the money... and be at home.. not to play roulette and guess..
аватар Slav_na
about "quarantine will not help" ... the Chinese are imprisoned, almost the doors are welded - it helps them
аватар AllOverTheWorld
klichko, yes, you generally said a week ago not to take a steam bath and there is no reason to panic except for the virus, but here you already started talking about the dumb situation and the epoch-making crisis.
Nobody lashed out at anyone
Apyatka is supported by the state, like pensioners and other state employees, of course, he does not know many of the nuances that businessmen have encountered. Optimism must also be real
From the fact that we will rustle with our paws, and think positively, problems will not be solved.
The same TO and TA will not recover in one day, but many will leave the market altogether. Just like other small businesses.
The problem is that many do not understand the meaning of quarantine, such as it is now. Because the government does not say why, why, and most importantly, what this quarantine threatens and what people should do, knowing full well how our business, employment and social protection works!
аватар AllOverTheWorld
YaSlavnaYa, everything is ok in China.
Despite the fact that only the province of Hubei was under quarantine, and the rest of China worked safely for the benefit of its homeland.
Therefore, we have some kind of selective quarantine. And yet, yes, the first case was from a visitor, and not within the country! And new cases are also mainly from "exported - brought" or in contact with them.
аватар klichko
Okay, I’ll chew it kindly) I took the virus seriously, I took my mother to the dacha even before the quarantine and immediately crossed out the April trip. I’ve been talking about the crushing crisis for a long time, you can raise the archive. They just waited for him papiszhe, and he flew in unexpectedly, like any test for lice and strength. Yurik herself, all the loot swelled into the goods. But there is no desire to discuss problems with you, especially universal ones, especially here. My immunity is dear to me, like a memory)
аватар Apyatka
"Apyatka is supported by the state"
Who told you?
"So you Apyatka are talking about quarantine for new arrivals, it won't help when there are already infected people in the country, but after all, the space situation, the virus was brought here because they were not quarantined upon arrival! Some kind of vicious surrealistic circle."
If you all remember well, then the first sick person was with us on 29.02. The diagnosis was confirmed on 3.03. This man came from Europe in February.
In February, I personally wrote here - people do not roam the world, do not spread viruses. A lot of optimists wrote to me that it was just SARS. And they deserve a rest and the Italians do not worry at all and enjoy life.
Now these same people, having ceased to be optimists, write to me that I do not give answers to their questions)
As if I promised to give everyone the answers to their questions.
And then, and now I say - assess the situation soberly. Neither denial nor panic will help anyone.
Do you like to grumble now? Start a hunger riot? Have you eaten the last one?
Pull yourself together.
аватар AllOverTheWorld
klichko, I personally do not discuss anything with you.
Your legal slang is very often not clear to me, although I myself am also a lawyer and even once working in my specialty, both in private and state structures.
And I don't need to do favors.
You are just like our government, kind, but with an aura of mystery, celestiality and full confidence that only Michael Jackson was cooler and smarter than you.
аватар Apyatka
about "quarantine will not help" ... the Chinese are imprisoned, almost the doors are welded - it helps them
Quarantine will help. General. Like in China.
A local quarantine of individual nailers from abroad no longer makes sense. Such a quarantine is needed if all cases of virus transmission are imported.
аватар Vika284
We have a strange quarantine, huge epicenters work quietly for themselves and do not close
Yesterday, the Bukovel resort sent a message that from today they were in quarantine, and they worked quietly all the time, people rode, lifts worked, visited restaurants, spas, etc.
All civil servants in ministries and various departments are at work. Why can't most non-strategic ministries and departments be sent to quarantine
аватар klichko
If you are really in business, you should know that yuri is a legal entity. face
You have the right to your erroneous opinion and to a carload of poison, which you yourself are poisoned with. My kindness is limited and your portion is over
аватар Apyatka
"From the fact that we will rustle our paws, and think positively, problems will not be solved."
That is, I understand correctly, you think that if you fold your paws and fall into depression, then they will be solved?
аватар ser_____Witness77
No one needs quarantine in Ukraine - the scale of infections, deaths is not at all the same as the EU, but its economy is suicidal / only our government is now completely under external control: they do what they order ... it seems to me that the new government will already cancel the quarantine, possibly a new president ;)
аватар AllOverTheWorld
Apyatka, I'm sorry if I didn't understand, but you kind of wrote that the doctor decided that he was a state employee.
Yes, and in China there was no general quarantine, but only one province of Hubei.
I liked this article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/health/corona-simulation-russian/
аватар Vika284
of those who answered the paws did not add up and did not fall into depression
But besides us, there are real people and life, which some do not want to just see and notice the problems of most people.
This majority does not really understand what to do and we will not help them now either.
More alarming in this situation is the presence of different weapons in a sufficiently large% of people
аватар AllOverTheWorld
Apyatka, rustle it with your finger to the sky with your paws, someone can take some kind of action, someone has the opportunity, you just can’t understand that many people will have a really hopeless situation and nothing depends on their desire to rustle their paws and they don’t will help.
And you, as a physician, must understand that depression is a real disease and it is extremely difficult to control this condition. Naturally, they won’t die of hunger (God forbid, of course, they won’t), but many will be on the verge of poverty if the quarantine lasts for more than one month.
аватар AllOverTheWorld
klichko, your hmm not attentiveness (I'll call it that) just rolls over
Kindness is over)) and of course, poison is not judged by itself.
lawyers and lawyers call themselves,
like TA turiki - tourists.
I will not be like your level of communication, so good health and good to you.
аватар grabarchuk1983
I will return you all to the main topic of the question. Question about rescheduling. Since the tour itself is booked to Egypt on May 23rd. You can on the topic, how to be? Still not interested in TO. Rather, it should be canceled, but I'm afraid they will put pressure on the transfer. I don’t see the point in transferring, because it’s more expensive there and the situation is unknown. And, by the way, in the contract, the penalty for cancellation 30-20 days before the tour is 5%. I have almost 60 days. Do you think it will cancel the TUI, will the money be returned? Who faced the TUI?
аватар grabarchuk1983
I will return you all to the main topic of the question. Question about rescheduling. Since the tour itself is booked to Egypt on May 23rd. You can on the topic, how to be? Still not interested in TO. Rather, it should be canceled, but I'm afraid they will put pressure on the transfer. I don’t see the point in transferring, because it’s more expensive there and the situation is unknown. And, by the way, in the contract, the penalty for cancellation 30-20 days before the tour is 5%. I have almost 60 days. Do you think it will cancel the TUI, will the money be returned? Who faced the TUI?
аватар grabarchuk1983
I will return you all to the main topic of the question. Question about rescheduling. Since the tour itself is booked to Egypt on May 23rd. You can on the topic, how to be? Still not interested in TO. Rather, it should be canceled, but I'm afraid they will put pressure on the transfer. I don’t see the point in transferring, because it’s more expensive there and the situation is unknown. And, by the way, in the contract, the penalty for cancellation 30-20 days before the tour is 5%. I have almost 60 days. Do you think it will cancel the TUI, will the money be returned? Who faced the TUI?
аватар Apyatka
I am a doctor, but I work in a private medical center. I am financially responsible for the staff. That is, I'm trying to steer now, like those who are crying.
I wonder what you would say when such an Armageddon would begin in our country as it is now in Italy and Spain?
What did our government do right not to introduce quarantine?
And finally, so that you have something to talk about - I believe that the country should have been closed in February for entry and exit. That the president was a little late. And all those evacuated to quarantine. Then it is possible (but this is inaccurate)) we could avoid falling into a crisis. But, since the crisis is global, I think that none of the decisions will seem right to the whole country. There will always be people who find it hard or how uncomfortable they are and they will be dissatisfied.
We will not die of hunger. None of us, believe me. And some will die from the coronavirus.
аватар zolyshka111
Apyatka, people will die and not only from the coronavirus, there will be a lot of deaths from heart attacks, from hunger, you’re right, they won’t die, only you can get a mortal blow on the head from someone who is desperate and has nothing to buy food. I still think it is illogical to take tens of thousands of potentially infected people, at best measure their temperature and send them home.
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