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Can citizens of Belarus somehow get from Georgia to Abkhazia? And from there already to take tickets to Russia?
Can citizens of Belarus somehow get from Georgia to Abkhazia? And from there already to take tickets to Russia?
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аватар nastysha_96
from there*
аватар lazy_person
No . So (from Georgia to Abkhazia) it is impossible to get there. Georgia does not maintain diplomatic relations with Abkhazia. Moreover, Georgia administratively persecutes everyone who visits Abkhazia. You can get to Abkhazia only from the Russian Federation. For citizens of Belarus who want to visit Abkhazia for tourism purposes. no visa is required if the stay is up to 14 days.
аватар moy_contakt
Why did this Abkhazia surrender to you. Why do you need this head. After visiting Abkhazia, you will not be allowed into Georgia. Perhaps now, it seems to you that this is garbage, etc., but in the future, you never know how it will turn around, and entry into the country is closed.
аватар ollennka
Yes, Georgia does not persecute anyone for visiting Abkhazia, do not shift from a sick head to a healthy one.
But leaving Georgia through Abkhazia will definitely lead to a ban on further entry into Georgia. If you are 100% sure that you will never go to Georgia again, act. They are allowed from Georgia to Abkhazia, read the reviews of tourists on the Internet.
аватар ollennka
Both Georgia and Abkhazia are beautiful: nature, wine, Caucasian hospitality. I understand your desire to visit both countries. But it is better to break it into two separate trips. How many vacation days do you have? If it’s a standard two weeks, then don’t try to cram the unimpressible, during this time you will barely have time to see Georgia, you need to lay down another week for Abkhazia.
аватар moy_contakt
ollennka, for information. my husband has been working with Georgia since 2013, his team was international (Russia, India, Ukraine, the Georgians themselves, Guatemala and a couple of other countries, I don’t remember exactly how things were there, but suddenly several people from the working team were not allowed into Georgia. As it turned out later, they separately visited Abkhazia to admire the beauties. The guys worked remotely, as the issue was not resolved, they were not allowed into the country.
аватар Kavkasia
It doesn't matter at all what country you are a citizen of. Entry into Abkhazia from Georgia is closed in accordance with the Law on Occupied Territories. Only those who have special permits have the right to enter.
аватар ollennka
moy_contakt, do not confuse the entry ban and "administrative prosecution", as lazy_person wrote. These are two different things. If my husband's colleagues thought of showing the Georgian border guards their passports with Abkhazian stamps, then what other reaction did they expect? Of course they were banned from entering. But if they changed their passport, the Georgians would not have any questions.
Yes, the border is not closed there. You need to get permission from Georgia, and also a visa from Abkhazia, it seems, if you are not entering from Russia. In short, a lot of bureaucratic troubles.
аватар lazy_person
The situation with Abkhazia and Georgia is similar to the Crimea-Ukraine situation. Georgia monitors citizens who have visited Abkhazia and takes administrative actions against them. On October 31, 2008, the law "On the occupied territories" was adopted. Citizens of foreign states and stateless persons actually do not have the opportunity to legally travel from / to Russia through Abkhazia and South Ossetia in the legal field of Georgia: in the first (from the Russian Federation) case, an illegal crossing of the state border occurs (on entry into the territory controlled by Georgia), in the second case (in the Russian Federation through Abkhazia), special permits (permissions from special services) must be obtained.
аватар moy_contakt
ollennka, well, of course you told me .. how is it to fly to a foreign country and not show your passport ... go through passport control at the airport or you have a special, apparently privileged position that allows you to cross the border without providing a passport .... made me laugh .. ..and .about changing the passport, of course, they laughed, especially considering that the passport is issued for 10 years ... and changing it so that they don’t wrap it up ...
аватар ollennka
moy_contakt, Well, it's up to you, of course, to change or not to change. But then you don’t need to be surprised that they didn’t miss it))). Everyone is aware of the situation, I will personally change my passport with an Armenian stamp in front of Azerbaijan or with Northern Cyprus in front of Southern Cyprus, no matter how long the passport is still valid.
But Ukraine and Crimea still have a different situation. Ukraine directly asks at the border whether there was a person in Crimea or not, and even double-checks by all available means. Georgia does not bother and only reacts badly to outright impudence in the form of an Abkhaz stamp))).
аватар lazy_person
The nuances with a passport, when you can enter Abkhazia without marks, apply only to citizens of the Russian Federation entering Abkhazia from the Russian Federation for recreation. There are "loopholes" (inserts, etc.) There are many citizens of the Russian Federation who are not allowed to travel abroad by the nature of their service, but they also manage to rest in Abkhazia without "soiling" their passports with stamps.
Here are the citizens of Belarus, who generally need a visa to visit Abkhazia for a period of more than 15 days. Foreigners (Belarus did not recognize Abkhazia) have a completely different approach. They, citizens of the Republic of Belarus, can visit Abkhazia from the Russian side without a visa (up to 14 days), but other procedures (marks in the passport) cannot be avoided.
аватар ollennka
In short, don't be greedy. Well, these colleagues saved three kopecks on the replacement of a passport, and now the devil knows how many more they won’t get into Georgia. Was it worth it?
аватар lazy_person
ollennka
Ukraine and Crimea (“... Ukraine directly asks at the border whether there was a person in Crimea or not ...). A foreigner will not enter Crimea from the territory of Ukraine at all. that a foreigner has previously been to Crimea, then he is not allowed to enter Ukraine either.
аватар ollennka
lazy_person, well, they will change the passport, business.
аватар ollennka
lazy_person, I plan to check for myself whether a person is an entry person or not to Ukraine after the Crimea. Then I'll write back.
аватар lazy_person
In general, why is this all? Change passport just for the experiment? To prove what? What will you travel to Ukraine with a new passport (from a new sheet, so to speak), after visiting Crimea from the territory of the Russian Federation?
Maybe they will let them in, it is very difficult to keep track of everyone who is now traveling to Crimea from the territory of the Russian Federation. But why? People want to relax, not experiment, between checkpoints...
аватар moy_contakt
At the border, everything is fixed. I have a girl working, her mother has been living in Yalta for 15 years, but my daughter sometimes visits her. And my grandmother lives in Rostov in general. So last year they stopped her at the border and asked a question in connection with what she visited Rostov, why she often travels to the Crimea, etc. ... all the information was on the computer. In this case, I understand the reasons for visiting the Crimea, I don’t understand those who go there on vacation from the Ukrainian side. After everything that happened, we didn’t go there, before by inertia, we went in between normal rest, and now we don’t even look in that direction. but this is a personal matter for everyone.
аватар ollennka
I will not go from the Ukrainian side, of course, but nothing is recorded from the Russian side.
And the experiment is not an end in itself. I just wanted to go to Crimea and Ukraine for a long time, most likely, Crimea will succeed sooner.
And once again I advise the author of the question to visit Abkhazia separately from Georgia, it’s easier that way.
аватар manich
Some strange feint with a visit to Abkhazia ... Why this hemorrhagic?
аватар Bovik
Vosche, strange some kind of trip.
аватар ira.novo2000
Of course, if you choose between Georgia and Abkhazia as they were in Soviet times, Abkhazia was the winner without options. Of course, Tbilisi is a most beautiful city, but Ritsa and New Athos interrupted it easily. The ancient churches of Georgia are beautiful, but very similar to each other - you saw one and you can no longer look at the others. Although if architecture is not important to you, but, for example, Georgian church singing, then there is a difference.
Now everything is different. Firstly, the vaunted Georgian hospitality gave a long life. Secondly, Sukhumi, Gagra and other trump places of Abkhazia were bombed back in the early 90s and have not yet been restored, because. only the USSR was capable of earning money for such feats and spending it on restoration. In general, Georgia and Adjara look more civilized and more comfortable for traveling, except that they have not adapted their coast for a beach holiday.
But I would go if there was only a choice between these routes (Egypt usually suits me), to Adler and from there to Abkhazia.
аватар ollennka
Why choose? I liked both Georgia and Abkhazia, I recommend both directions.
аватар ira.novo2000
ollennka, what do you mean by Georgian hospitality?
It's definitely not the same as before.
In expensive hotels, miracles of hospitality are almost always shown.
But, for example, I have a friend who grew up with people from the Caucasus and knows the Georgian language.
So she was brought in three positions in a cafe, which she did not order with the company.
They even threatened to call the police.
The mistake of the owners of the establishment was caused by the fact that, based on the cheerfulness of the company, they made the wrong conclusions about the degree of their intoxication, but in fact half of the girls did not drink alcohol at all
аватар ollennka
ira.novo2000, I'm not so much talking about hotels and restaurants, but about ordinary people. Very sociable, they help if you are stupid, in the wilderness, where there are no cafes and restaurants, they whipped up khachapuri in the store and made a salad, fed starving tourists for a penny)).
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