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I CAN WITH THE STAMP OF ENTRY DENIEED WHICH WERE DELIVERED IN ISRAEL TO GO TO THIS COUNTRY
21 12 2013 STAMPED AT THE AIRPORT OF ISRAEL ENTRY DENIEJ WE HAVE FINGERPRINTS TAKEN AND SENT TO UKRAINE MOTIVATED BY THAT I WANT TO STAY IN THE COUNTRY AND 20 12 2013 WILL I ALSO BE ABLE TO FLY TO ISRAEL AND IF
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аватар Stella73
Legal - no. I don’t know for Israel, for Europe they enter the computer for 5 years.
If you are interested in historical sights, then in my opinion there are excursions from Egypt, there used to be not very strict on the border.
аватар Stella73
The guys to whom the Europeans, out of harm, put a stamp for 5 years and entered it into the computer (they did not take prints); because of a visa overdue for a week - well, there was no other way, it was connected with business. They changed their surnames, took wives, and changed their passports. The visa was opened for another country. Again, there was no way out, the business was connected with foreign trips, and the kids wanted to eat :-).
аватар orbittours.ru
With such a stamp, even through Egypt, your entrance to Israel is closed.
YOU, as they say, lit up in full, that you were even photographed and fingerprinted. In any case, you will be in any base in Israel marked with a ban on entry.
I don't know how long the ban will last, unfortunately. You can contact the embassy with an appeal, they will tell you exactly the time.
аватар Alex_classic
Unfortunately, there is no other option to enter Israel in the foreseeable future under your own name :(((The border guards have a common base at all checkpoints ...
Therefore, I do not see an alternative to what Stella73 told about.
аватар mishatour
Each of the Parties reserves the right to refuse entry to citizens of the state of the other Party whom it deems undesirable, or to reduce the period of stay of such citizens (from the visa-free travel agreement between the two countries)
So find out the reason, make an official request through a lawyer. Everyone who tries to give you advice is just shaking .. the air.
аватар Alex_classic
Misha, who is a "tour", you better not be rude - this is not an intra-Israeli site and the manners of communication accepted in the Country do not work!
The offer to make a request through a lawyer is nonsense! If they don’t answer the citizen’s request, then the lawyer will not help in this case ...
аватар mishatour
Or can Alex be engaged in those for whom he studied? Sell ​​3 excursions and 4 as a gift, to the country that he himself does not like and considers people to be boors.
Causes respect reviews sigur62. Behind this nickname is a decent and competent person who loves and respects the Jews and Israel
аватар sigur62
Thanks for the compliment.
I really love Israel and Israeli Jews, people who defended the right to their own state and honor the precepts of their fathers. Being in Israel in Jewish settlements, seeing the ideal order and diligence of people, I could compare with Arab dusty and dirty villages in the same Israel. It seems that the country is one, but the people are different. This is to the fact that "all people are equally good" (c). And that's not all.
аватар Alex_classic
What I do, I will decide for myself!
If my knowledge and experience of communication with the Consulate in Moscow in 2004-2008. will help in solving the problems of people in need, I will only be glad! During that time, I not only participated in obtaining more than 10,000 visas for citizens of the Russian Federation, Ukraine, Belarus and other countries of the former USSR, but also helped several current Israeli citizens in their struggle with the Ministry of Internal Affairs for obtaining the status of a new immigrant.
The fact that the behavior of the majority of Israelis outside the country is considered boorish is a fact. They write/say a lot about this... And, unfortunately, as a rule, it is fair.
аватар mishatour
Of course, I can continue the discussion, but someone has to be smarter. I have no desire to give people with a dubious reputation who owe money in Israel and fled. And you like these loopholes with a change of surname ... and fictitious marriages ... to your liking. Respect yourself, first of all, and the country where you live!
I apologize to the members of the forum who are forced to read all this. It just ... hurt ... the Israelis are all boors ..
аватар Alex_classic
There is nothing wrong with the fact that an Israeli citizen owes money to someone in Israel. Could not recover - the problem of the creditor.
In any case, it would not be right to deprive you of the opportunity to visit YOUR country without the risk of breaking your future life outside of Israel. And if my experience can help members of the forum in this situation, then I will only be happy!
аватар Stella73
Where did I talk about a fictitious marriage? I said - take the wife's surname, and that was for Europe, if
did not take fingerprints.
We do not know all the circumstances of the topic starter's case, maybe he really needs to go to Israel.
Different things happen. Including some bureaucratic overlays. It happened to a person who had a full Schengen passport, "suddenly" some country in the eurozone put a refusal. Moreover, a decent person in all respects. Now it’s easier with this, but before, if one country put a refusal, then for another to open a visa, there was a high risk of refusal.
I do not urge anyone to break the law, there are circumstances that "very necessary" and "justice"
- Its restoration is unfortunately not always realistic due to bureaucracy.
In Israel, I have a friend who has been living in Europe since the age of 11, and was born in the former Soviet Union. When she was 19, she decided to see Israel, went for a week. That was 15 years ago. She told me HOW she was interrogated for three (!!) hours. No, they didn’t beat her, but they pressed her so hard, the “security service” at the entrance, that she regretted that she had gone and still did not go there, although she liked the sights.
The girl had real stress and hysterics, a home child from a good family. Did she also need a lawyer?
аватар Stella73
Sorry for the offtopic, there are laws where everything is beautiful, and there is real life in which it happens that it is less beautiful. And there are DIFFERENT circumstances.
If this happened to the topic starter, this does not mean that a person somewhere did something wrong,
or broke the law.
аватар mishatour
Dear Stella, thank you for the emotional story about your friend. The problem is that neither I nor you are not an expert in these matters. And you should not be sarcastic about the services of a lawyer. All over the world, people, in order to defend their rights (within a civilized society), use the services of a lawyer. Read the article and you will understand that even in the law on the abolition of visas there are many nuances, but the heroes did not know about them, but the lawyer ..... http://inotv.rt.com/2013-11-07/Beremennuyu-rossiyanku -ne-pustili-v
Voltornistiy Israeli authorities are also accused of trying to stay in the country. Or maybe they have a reason for this? From his subsequent questions, I think there is. But, once again...we'll leave that to the experts. And it’s better for us to tell stories from PERSONAL experience, helping tourists not to step on the rake that we PERSONALLY stepped on)
аватар Stella73
The link does not open, but it is familiar. So 20 years ago, the same Germany could easily refuse a visa for a pregnant woman.
In our "civilized society", a lawyer costs money. We have an average of 140 to 260 euros per hour. :-)
If the topikstarter has the means, then of course it is better to take a lawyer. Whose high tariff does not give any guarantees - it is clear that the lawyer will work, in good faith, but the fact that there will be a result is not a fact. In Ukraine, there are not high salaries, and, as I understand it, a lawyer is needed from Israel ... And it’s like a penny nemaye , then de yih uzyaty ... :-)
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