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Can I withdraw deportation?
I visited my brother in Israel, stayed there for 3 months. Returning to Ukraine after 2 weeks, I again went to Israel, I was allowed to stay in the country for only 2 weeks, but I stayed there for 5 months (illegally). I was deported because I had a deportation stamp, I changed my passport to my maiden name and went to Israel again, but upon arrival at the airport I was detained and I was returned back to Ukraine. Since my brother lives in Israel for permanent residence, I would like to visit him. Tell me how can I be? May I know what it means - deportation or a ban on entry into Israel? Can I be blacklisted? My actions?
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14 subscribers  • asked 2016-08-148 years ago
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аватар ollennka
I sympathize, but this is a site for tourists, you better look for specialized resources on the Internet, or even better, call the Israeli embassy / consulate and consult with them.
In the meantime, until the quarantine expires, a brother can come to you for a change.
аватар kolyan_cat
Fairy tales about a brother will only work in the circle of girlfriends. Israel is closed to you. The only question is for how long - 5, 10 years or for life.
аватар L_ena
Your next step is to never again violate the visa laws and regulations of the countries you are entering. You need to say goodbye to your "brother" in Israel or wait for him to visit in Ukraine)))))
аватар Olgaolga153
Judging by the tenacity with which the girl violates the laws, she does not aspire to her brother at all.
316040
Of course, you can try a couple more times to change your passport to your grandmother's maiden name, at the same time change your name and patronymic, but, probably, all the border guards at passport control already know you by sight. )))
аватар klichko
It must be understood that the deportation was forced. To forget for 10 years ... no change in surnames-passports will help ... except perhaps a change in the date and place of birth, but this is already a criminal offense. Deceiving the Mossad is a utopia ... the border guard enters the last name into the database and sees all your movements
PS. if the brother is real, let him turn to the relevant authorities. Maybe you will be very lucky and under a fat pledge + personal guarantees will give the go-ahead
аватар Alex_classic
For ollennka:
The advice to contact the Consulate is useless - they don’t talk about such topics there.
kolyan_cat:
The fact that the "door is closed" is a fact. Definitely not for life. Yes, you can enter if you wish, but for this, a simple change of surname is not enough.
For L_ena:
While the brother is alive (so that he is up to 120), it is too early to say goodbye to him. It will not be easy to come, but it is possible.
For Olgaolga153:
The problem is not the recognition by the border guards - they change there often. Their management specifically makes sure that they do not stay for more than a few months / a year in one place.
The problem is that the border guards have an automatic verification system that monitors the coincidence of several passport data, so simply changing the last name is not enough. Really need to change more data...
аватар Alex_classic
For klichko:
No need to be so categorical - "For 10 years to forget." Yes, you are right - it is not enough to change the surname in the passport. As for one of the Israeli intelligence services, Mossad, it has nothing to do with it. Another special service is responsible for internal security and it is called ShaBaK (Shirutei Bitakhon Klili = General Security Service, which is simply counterintelligence ...). Yes, and the Shin Bet is not in business here - violating the visa regime is not even a crime!
As for applying to the "relevant authorities", which is the department of visas of the department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs at the place of residence of the inviting person, then without the right lawyer, they will not talk to their brother, or to the matchmaker, or to anyone else - they will send. They like to send those who can be sent. I know firsthand - I had and continue to have the "joy" of communicating with this department. And they are already talking to me politely, but it still takes a lot of nerves and time :(((
аватар Alex_classic
FOR _316040:
The case is difficult, but not hopeless. The question is how strong is the desire to get to Israel. Whether the chances are great I can’t say - I need specifics. And it's better to discuss in a personal. So, there will be a desire to communicate - write!
аватар sommersbyy
I wonder what guided you when you lived almost 5 months illegally in another country? Did you think everything will get away with it and there will be no problems? interesting
аватар evgeniyy-sem
do not write any nonsense! Only an entry visa can help with Misrad Apnim! And a 100% deposit. require a bank guarantee.
аватар 8125976
Good afternoon! I was deported in 2016 in July. I went to visit a friend with an invitation and they didn’t let me in. They set the deportation and didn’t explain anything. I had a return ticket in 2 weeks, but it didn’t help. How can I remove the deportation? I want to visit her. She comes to visit me in Ukraine once a year, but I would like to see her more often. Please help
аватар Rahmonov.Temur
Hello, I was in Israel for a year illegally. They caught me and sent me now I have a girlfriend, we want to get married, she is an Israeli citizen, then after the wedding I can go to Israel. Answer please
аватар Ivannadumanivska
How can you see the deportation? If there is no mark
аватар P_M_A_2012
And if they didn’t let me through at the Israeli airport and there is no mark in my passport, can I fly again?
аватар Alex_classic
About the marks in the passport.
First, they are usually placed. Different...
Secondly, the decision of the border guards to refuse to issue an entry visa upon arrival is noted in the system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which controls all points of entry into Israel. And therefore, it’s not about the marks, but about the information in the database ...
аватар Yuliamarko20
If I traveled as a tourist and was not allowed at the border (immediately returned), can I try to leave through Sharma-Sheikh by changing my last name?
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