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We are not a married couple, we want to go to Israel, tell me the details of customs clearance
We are not a married couple, we want to go to Israel, tell me the details of customs clearance
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аватар Alex_classic
There are no subtleties with the passage of Israeli customs. There are no problems for tourists who do not bring anything extra (alcohol, cigarettes ...).
If you buy something in excess of the norm in duty free, then shove it into your suitcases immediately upon receipt. And then if you put branded packages on top of the trolley, they can wrap it up for verification. And if it's too much, they'll take it away :(
аватар vai.196824
They say that it is difficult for citizens of Ukraine to go through customs, they have suspicions that they are going to work. How about this?
аватар Alex_classic
No, what are you, there is no discrimination at customs. All those who come to the country on a common basis go through it. Customs is generally not interested in the purpose of the trip.
As for working in Israel, a lot of useful things have been written about this at the Forum in the topic "Israel - leisure and work." Here's the link:
http://www.turpravda.com/forums/discussion/172456/izrail_-_otdyh_i_rabota#latest
аватар Pachok
vai.196824, You are confusing customs with border and immigration services. Customs is only interested in the movement of goods, personal belongings, etc. across the border. If you are not smuggling, customs will have no questions for you.
аватар musja7
No one can guarantee you anything right now. Cases when citizens are "wrapped" at border control have really become more frequent. Least of all questions arise for those who travel with their families to Israel at the individual invitations of Israeli citizens (relatives, friends) on a private visit. From Ukraine, the participants of the so-called sound are often in question now. tourist tours (if they go as pilgrims from a church organization and accompanied by a priest, it’s easier)
аватар cnfybckfdf
The subtleties of customs clearance consist in answering idiotic questions with the most serious look, such as who packed your suitcase for you? or - are you carrying weapons and drugs?. In no case should you joke or shine with wit.
аватар kvi2007
It was rightly noted above that the customs controls the movement of goods and cargo, all the difficulties of passing the border of Israel arise when communicating with the border control and immigration service. If you are not a spouse, it doesn’t matter to them, you just need to talk about it honestly and frankly, as well as answer clearly and consistently to a lot of stupid and not very (from your point of view) questions. The availability of hotel reservations, or invitations from the Israeli side, return tickets, medical insurance are a prerequisite for crossing the border! In case of refusal to enter, the reasons are not explained - this is reinforced concrete !!! Be ready for all this! In the immigration service, he either sits next to him or asks questions, a professional psychologist - any doubt he has about your sincerity is not interpreted in your favor! They can pick up phones, tablets and laptops for verification, this is all annoying, of course, seriously, but these are the realities of the Israeli visa-free regime ...;) but a trip to Israel is worth the trouble!
аватар kvi2007
Yes, and do not forget about the financial side of the issue - Israel is an expensive country, the lack of an adequate amount of financial resources for the declared time of stay is a reason to refuse you entry!
аватар ollennka
Sorry, I'm going off topic.
Now, if the Ukrainians have such difficulties with the passage of the Israeli border, why go there at all? Or, as a Russian woman, I have a risk of not being allowed into Ukraine, so why do I need these difficulties and risks, I will choose another country for tourism. There are a lot of interesting countries in the world, for Ukrainians a whole Schengen visa-free has been added. So why waste your nerves on vacation and worry about borderline complications? On vacation, you need to relax and unwind.
аватар Pachok
ollenka,
Many go to relatives in Israel, the flight is cheap.
Many are curious to see where the legs grow from the three world religions.
Many are believers and want to visit places of worship.
Many people go to Israel for treatment.
In addition, the difficulties with passing the border are greatly exaggerated. It's humiliating, with the hassle and proof that you're not a camel, but rarely is anyone really let in.
I personally do not have Israel in my plans yet, but not at all because of the difficulties with the border. Namely, because you wrote - there are a lot of interesting countries in the world, life is not enough to visit everything you want, you have to prioritize :)
аватар ollennka
Well, to relatives and on a pilgrimage, okay, but history and treatment can really be obtained in a bunch of other places, nerves are more expensive.
аватар kvi2007
ollennka
The birthplace and resting place of Jesus in these places, the dead sea with its healing moments - first of all for psoriasis sufferers - one thing in the whole wide world ...;), well, all sorts of different moments that take place only in Israel are not discussed !!!;) With regards to the citizens of the Russian Federation, the same story on the topic of passing the border! I will say more - citizens of any other states and royal subjects - in the presence of certain factors of doubt, will pass the same unsympathetic test for lice, Israel is worth it to visit !!! People who go to Israel for illegal work is their choice!, as well as our problem on the topic of passing the border ... (((... - the question is much deeper, if our countries would create for their citizens the very conditions that and social, and civil, and financial - we would have discussed questions of a different order on this resource - what to visit in Israel, where is it better to stay ..., and other things that befit a tourist resource, but now we are discussing crap !!!
аватар ollennka
You are confusing something about the birthplace of Jesus, Bethlehem is not in Israel, but the Dead Sea is half in Jordan. In any country you can find something that will be one in the world, whether to shake your nerves for the sake of these "one and only" is a big, big question.
аватар kvi2007
Yes, and in an afterword, for those who want to go to work in Israel, but are pounding show-offs on the topic - we wanted to go to this country as tourists - but what is there and how? ... - legal ways to find a job in Israel, not for Israeli citizens - NO!!!!! All kinds of intermediaries, all kinds of problem solvers - they just fry you without taking off your pants !!! Yes, there are people working under contracts, I assume that there are those who are of interest to the state of Israel and they have their own personal preferences from this state, but this is clearly not the case for those who are going to go there and just earn extra money, the lot of those who went there to earn extra money is the destiny of illegal immigrants !!! And I beg you, gentlemen, let's discuss tourism issues on the tourist resource !!! I went to the link in this thread on the topic of working in Israel - admin, pay attention, it is clearly not about tourism !!!!!!!!
аватар kvi2007
ollennka
Bethlehem is not in Israel?...)))- do not go over and do not touch the political component of this issue!!! With regards to the Dead Sea, I agree with you, Chait is blunt, you can go to Jordan, but my personal impressions are that in Israel it will be more interesting on the Dead Sea than in Jordan, I had the opportunity to compare!
аватар ollennka
Yes, it’s as if the relationship between Palestine and Israel is not very interesting to me, the status of Palestine was not invented by me, but by the UN.
аватар Alex_classic
"You are confusing something about the birthplace of Jesus, Bethlehem is not in Israel" ... kvi2007 confuses NOTHING!!!
The city of Bethlehem is located on the territory of the State of Israel. Just because it is located on the part that is controlled by the Palestinian Authority, does not mean that this city is NOT in Israel. Just like Hebron, Shechem, Jericho are located in Israel...
I guess the last few posts are more like a dialogue on the FORUM than answers to the question posed. Therefore, I propose to continue the discussion on the topic of PASSPORT CONTROL on the forum - here is the link:
http://www.turpravda.com/forums/discussion/187247/izrail_-_prohozhdenie_pasportnogo_kontrolya
аватар kvi2007
ollennka let's not discuss issues not related to tourism and stop there, the issue of Palestine and Israel is clearly not in this plane! ...;)
аватар Alex_classic
"I did not invent the status of Palestine, but the UN" ... Few people care what these eccentrics in the UN came up with! At first, specialists from the Kremlin "lit" there, and then they picked up antisimites of all stripes :(
So, there is no such thing as "Palestine".
Yes it was. Until 1948. Before the proclamation of the State of Israel, ALL residents of Jerusalem, Haifa, Bethlehem, Jaffa, Nazareth, etc. were called so.
Those. and Jews, and Bedouins, and Arabs, and Druze, and Circassians, and many more who were PALESTINIAN. This has been the case for about 18 centuries in a row, ever since the Romans razed Jerusalem to the ground in the 2nd century and called Elia Capitolina. And at the same time, Judea was called Palestine ... The name of the Holy City did not take root and it again began to be called Jerusalem. But this Earth continued to be called Palestine. And, accordingly, all its inhabitants, without regard to their nationality and religion, were called "Palestinians"!
аватар Alex_classic
kvi2007, I agree with almost everything you write here. Except for one thing - the lack of connection between work in Israel and tourism.
Yes, going somewhere for the purpose of staying to work and for the purpose of relaxing/watching is not the same thing. As well as "tours of brides", for example, they are not related to tourism (although this is relevant for Israel - wives from the countries of the former USSR, primarily from Ukraine, are very much appreciated here).
But it just so happened that what you remarked "...created the same conditions for their citizens, both social, civil and financial..." is true for Ukraine, for example. And if any of the citizens of Ukraine wants to earn money in Israel, then why not help with this?
I, for one, have been doing this for a couple of years now. Advice, of course - I'm not an intermediary and do not take money for information. In addition, the employment business in Israel is a criminal article. I have not heard that someone was imprisoned precisely for this, but still somehow I don’t want to run into trouble ...
аватар ollennka
)) Guys, the UN Secretary General on TurPravda, probably, does not sit and read your vision of relations between Israel and Palestine. To be honest, I would not go there or there without a great need, and the specifics of Israeli passport control is one of the reasons. Only on TurPravda I already read a few reviews, as they turned back at the border.
аватар Alex_classic
That's right - they deploy several people from each flight (counted or dozens - it's hard to say, I don't have such statistics ... but there is first-hand information - from drivers who wait for hours and do not wait for tourists, from relatives / friends who also waiting, waiting and not waiting ...).
We kindly ask you, ollennka, and you, kvi2007, not to continue the discussion here. Let's be ethical and don't clutter up the ANSWER space with off-topic posts to the question asked by vai.196824!
Go to the Forum and let's chat there!
Once again I repeat the reference to the topic "Israel - passing through passport control":
http://www.turpravda.com/forums/discussion/187247/izrail_-_prohozhdenie_pasportnogo_kontrolya
аватар kvi2007
I agree, they killed the bazaar on extraneous topics, I already talked about this!
аватар mishatour
Dear vai.196824! There are no subtleties!) I have not yet met a single person, either here or in my life, who would be turned back, interrupting his good intentions to visit Israel. If you are really a tourist, then you have nothing to fear. Those who need it will quickly figure it out (it is not so important what they are called: border guards or migration service workers). They have their secrets and let's not guess them. A. horror stories of illegal immigrants are already fed up, they scare away potential tourists. Although, I repeat, not one real tourist has not yet been turned back. If there are, let them respond. I have already appealed to the site administration with a request to stop discussing issues of illegal stay in Israel on the tourist forum. But unfortunately, I was not heard.
I completely agree with kvi2007: there are almost no legal ways to get a job in Israel (except for specialists with a work visa).
аватар mishatour
This is a "GRAY" business, around which dealers of various kinds are spinning, trying to find a gap in Israeli legislation and somehow legalize something. Once again, all this is not legal, which means it is punishable and the likelihood of a scam is high.
Well, now about what is closer to me as a guide in Israel. Olya, as always, you are competent in your answers. Yes, Bethlehem, Shechem, Jericho are not Israel de jure. You are absolutely right! Most UN countries support this PA sovereignty. But de facto, the state was never created, so most of it is under the control of the Israeli security forces. The entire territory of the PA is divided into 3 parts: A, B and C. Part A is under the complete military and administrative control of the PA. The Israelis are strictly forbidden to visit these territories, and the army enters there only for special operations. It is on territory A that Bethlehem, Shechem and Jericho are located, so you are right here and de facto. Territories C and B are a different story.
аватар mishatour
In general, there is no unambiguous answer in the Middle East, and everything must be argued and won back. Also, not everything is clear with the capital of Israel, Jerusalem, not all states recognize it, and they prefer to place their embassies in Tel Aviv.
I really want the Israeli branch to return to the mainstream of tourism, and let the questions of how to get through customs be asked by those intermediaries who promise work in Israel. Have a good day everyone!
аватар Alex_classic
Yes, Mikhail, you are right - the business is "gray". But he is. And government agencies are extremely reluctant to fight him ... It is easier for them to catch illegal immigrants on the streets of Netanya, for example, than to do business. I know firsthand how they work - a couple of months ago, several guys in black "fell" on me right in the middle of Herzl Street ... They took me for an illegal. But this is a different story. It is not the place to discuss it here. As well as what all sorts of eccentrics from the UN and UNESCO think about us ... The Palestinian Authority is just managers who are perfectly able to "cut" the money coming to them from everywhere. Therefore, there is no desire to create their own state - who will send them "firewood" then? And the control of these managers is exclusively police - for the military they need an army. But this is not the place to discuss this.
I can tell you about how REAL tourists are not allowed into Israel. As you know, I am engaged in both the sale of excursions and the implementation of transfers: http://www.classictravel.ru/uslugi-v-izraile
аватар Alex_classic
Therefore, I spend quite a lot of time at the airport, talking with fellow drivers ... So they constantly have a bummer with a meeting of tourists from Ukrainian flights! They turn up for interviews often. They don't let you in less often. Some tourists who did not enter after that communicated with me by email / whatsapp. So, among them were people who went on tours. There were also those who went to visit. In each case, the border guards had their own reason not to let them into the Country.
It's not worth discussing here, this is what the Forum is for. On it, I opened the topic "Israel - passing through passport control." Here is the link: http://www.turpravda.com/forums/discussion/187247/izrail_-_prohozhdenie_pasportnogo_kontrolya#la test

And thanks to kvi2007 for already starting to post helpful posts. Join us, Michael!
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