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Can they be deported if they stayed in the country for less than 90 days?
We went to rest with a girl in Israel, they took our passports at the airport, they were interrogated, they gave a card (visa) for 3 days, but we stayed there for 80 days, during the return, they said at the airport that deportation. Can they give deportation if there is a visa-free agreement between countries for a period of 90 days?
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It's already been given to you...
Well, yes ... and of course they believed you that you "rested" for 80 days.
A period of 90 days does not mean that you have the right to stay there for 90 days, the decision on border crossing violations is made by border guards both at the time of entry and exit from the country.
Well, yes ... and of course they believed you that you "rested" for 80 days.
A period of 90 days does not mean that you have the right to stay there for 90 days, the decision on border crossing violations is made by border guards both at the time of entry and exit from the country.
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answered 6 years ago
... went with a girl to rest for 80 days ....)). In the next 10 years you will have to "vacate" in other countries. Did you expect to work in Israel 180 days a year?
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answered 6 years ago
Yes, of course they can. After all, no one canceled visas for citizens of Ukraine. For several years, they simply simplified the visa regime (as for citizens of neighboring Belarus, Russia, Moldova, etc.).
Therefore, they issued a VISA at the border for a period of 3 days. Such a period of stay in Israel was allowed, and if they did not leave on time, they violated the visa regime!
Therefore, they issued a VISA at the border for a period of 3 days. Such a period of stay in Israel was allowed, and if they did not leave on time, they violated the visa regime!
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answered 6 years ago
80 days "rested" in Israel :) Ridiculous.
Why lie here, we are not Israeli border guards?
Why lie here, we are not Israeli border guards?
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answered 6 years ago
The more I read TurPravda, the more I am convinced that the Israeli border guards can do even more. In Israel, the light did not converge like a wedge, you will find another country to relax with a girl).
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answered 6 years ago
And I am convinced that Israeli border guards should not do such a thing ....
They gave a visa corridor for 3 days .... and the couple violated it for 77 !! days they are also surprised at the deportation
They also give visas to the States for 10 years, but this does not mean that you can stay there for 10 years .... and it is at the discretion of the border guards which visa corridor to set for you ....
They gave a visa corridor for 3 days .... and the couple violated it for 77 !! days they are also surprised at the deportation
They also give visas to the States for 10 years, but this does not mean that you can stay there for 10 years .... and it is at the discretion of the border guards which visa corridor to set for you ....
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answered 6 years ago
Olya, one reading is not enough, one must also understand what is written and even read between the lines). To be honest, I still do not understand your position. Are you for those who are trying to cross the Israeli border for illegal work, or are you for those who are trying to stop them???. Or do you think that the guy and the girl really rested for 80 days in Israel and undeservedly received deportation? I hope that you just read the whole topic inattentively ...
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answered 6 years ago
And about the wedge agreed ... Yes, I agree, for those who want to work, this is true. But those who want to breathe the air of Jerusalem at least once in their lives, walk along the alleys that keep the history of the way of the cross of Jesus, visit the only crusader halls in the world that have been preserved in their original form, visit the world's longest terraced Baha'i gardens, visit monasteries 3 -4 centuries, where to this day hermits live who have renounced everything worldly .... this list can be continued until the morning. The question is, is it necessary? People are not up to it, and we will not judge them and put labels .... In a day, Israel turns 70 years old, and what has been done in this short time in the desert in the backyards of the Ottoman Empire has come together like a wedge.
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answered 6 years ago
mishatour, don’t take my answers so seriously, I haven’t written anything intelligible on TurPravda for a long time, so I’m foolish.
Specifically about the guy and his 80 days. In my youth, I also had the experience of illegal work, only in Turkey. They gave a ban on entry for either 3 or 6 months. If Turkey banned entry like Israel for 10 years, it would stupidly lose me as a tourist, who then came 8 more times and spent money there. Therefore, the attitude of Israeli border guards towards illegal immigrants, in comparison with other countries, I, to put it mildly, consider an excess.
Specifically about the guy and his 80 days. In my youth, I also had the experience of illegal work, only in Turkey. They gave a ban on entry for either 3 or 6 months. If Turkey banned entry like Israel for 10 years, it would stupidly lose me as a tourist, who then came 8 more times and spent money there. Therefore, the attitude of Israeli border guards towards illegal immigrants, in comparison with other countries, I, to put it mildly, consider an excess.
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answered 6 years ago
With such a reputation, I would be foolish)). Israel is not Turkey. This is too small a country both in terms of area and population ... And if every 10th Ukrainian comes here to work, then in a couple of years they will have to mince Magendavid for a trident) I don’t know what terrible things happen on the border, but tourists from Ukraine with whom I sometimes I work always successfully they reach me.
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answered 6 years ago
If every tenth Ukrainian comes here and WORK, then Israel will be happy!
Houses will be built by professionals, not "masters" who grazed sheep and dragged garbage the day before ... Repairs will be done by craftsmen who know what SNiP is and will not be surprised at the ban on puttying on wet plaster (from personal experience).
The children will be cared for by caring nannies, not stupid Israeli feminists (unfortunately, there are almost no "Russian grandmothers" who used to happily take care of the children ...).
They will clean houses, offices and hotels as they should, and not as Afro-Israelis want (more precisely, they don’t want to - I saw their faces somehow in a 5 * hotel when I asked to move an extra bed placed in the middle of the aisle).
The problem with the shortage of professional railway engineers will be solved (those immigrants from the former USSR who helped make a breakthrough 10-15 years ago are rapidly retiring and they did not have time to prepare a replacement).
I can list for a long time...
Houses will be built by professionals, not "masters" who grazed sheep and dragged garbage the day before ... Repairs will be done by craftsmen who know what SNiP is and will not be surprised at the ban on puttying on wet plaster (from personal experience).
The children will be cared for by caring nannies, not stupid Israeli feminists (unfortunately, there are almost no "Russian grandmothers" who used to happily take care of the children ...).
They will clean houses, offices and hotels as they should, and not as Afro-Israelis want (more precisely, they don’t want to - I saw their faces somehow in a 5 * hotel when I asked to move an extra bed placed in the middle of the aisle).
The problem with the shortage of professional railway engineers will be solved (those immigrants from the former USSR who helped make a breakthrough 10-15 years ago are rapidly retiring and they did not have time to prepare a replacement).
I can list for a long time...
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answered 6 years ago
So what is the problem with letting migrant workers in, why these atrocities at the border?
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answered 6 years ago
Alex, I do not think that the forum participants are interested in the internal problems of Israel. There are enough of them, as in any other country, Puttying on wet plaster is, of course, a disgrace)), but this does not mean that plasterers, drivers (they are also not so hot), locksmiths, turners, bakers from Ukraine. What are we going to do with you? The question is much more serious than wet plaster.
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answered 6 years ago
No, I DID NOT MAKE A WEDGE.
My friend spent 10 hours standing at the airport. Then he spent 12 hours in prison. I sincerely wanted to see Israel, barely begged for a week's vacation at work. As a result, the deportation of both him and his companions. In general, the loss of funds amounted to 20 thousand UAH. Let's wait for political changes. Kissinger has long been making encouraging promises.
My friend spent 10 hours standing at the airport. Then he spent 12 hours in prison. I sincerely wanted to see Israel, barely begged for a week's vacation at work. As a result, the deportation of both him and his companions. In general, the loss of funds amounted to 20 thousand UAH. Let's wait for political changes. Kissinger has long been making encouraging promises.
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answered 6 years ago
It's a pity for your friend and it's a pity for 20 thousand ... What to do ... "they cut the wood, the chips fly." And what political changes are you waiting for? If you are talking about Henry Kissinger, then he has not promised anything for 40 years)
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answered 6 years ago
70 years of the state?
The old inhabitants of Israel, who did not come in large numbers, say that Jews lived better under Muslims.
Before the creation of this entity, Jews and Muslims lived in peace. Both from the point of view of Judaism and from the point of view of Islam, representatives of both religions could pray in each other's places of worship. And even the Jews were allowed to keep their shoes on in the mosque.
The old inhabitants of Israel, who did not come in large numbers, say that Jews lived better under Muslims.
Before the creation of this entity, Jews and Muslims lived in peace. Both from the point of view of Judaism and from the point of view of Islam, representatives of both religions could pray in each other's places of worship. And even the Jews were allowed to keep their shoes on in the mosque.
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answered 6 years ago
Yeah ... Complete ignorance of the history of Israel!
To know how Jews lived under Muslims, one must be a man aged 110-120 years. After all, the reign of Muslims - the Ottoman Empire - ended 101 years ago ...
To know how Jews lived under Muslims, one must be a man aged 110-120 years. After all, the reign of Muslims - the Ottoman Empire - ended 101 years ago ...
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answered 6 years ago
Alex, where did you see me writing that NOW living indigenous people say this? I wrote that these are the memories of those who lived in the territory that became Israeli, even under the Muslims.
The United Kingdom is generally famous for its ability to pit peoples and states against each other so that everyone is not up to them. And then sooner or later, after all, someone, having united, would have cleaned their snout.
I don’t know when Kissinger made his famous promise about Israel and I didn’t write that it was recently, but the date was called - I think everyone remembers this - 2022.
The United Kingdom is generally famous for its ability to pit peoples and states against each other so that everyone is not up to them. And then sooner or later, after all, someone, having united, would have cleaned their snout.
I don’t know when Kissinger made his famous promise about Israel and I didn’t write that it was recently, but the date was called - I think everyone remembers this - 2022.
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answered 6 years ago
ira.novo2000, in vain you translate everything into a political channel ... And you refer to nonsense from the mind of a survivor ... I advise you to change the library, and at the same time your views ....
I hope a few smart people will help you with this.
Israel is the grain of Western values, thrown into the barren desert of Eastern peoples who are unable to catch up with the West and only slander it. Naturally, Palestine belongs to Israel - it should belong to those who are able to build a civilized state there. (Valery Novodvorska)
Israel was not created to disappear - it will flourish and develop. It is a child of hope and a home for the brave. He will not be destroyed by disasters, and even in success he will not lose his moral principles. (John Kennedy)
Jews are unsinkable! If the Arabs throw them into the sea, Israel will become a great maritime power. (Vyacheslav Verkhovsky)
And the most important thing !!! Our future does not depend on what the peoples of the world say, but on what the Jews do. (David Bengurion)
I hope a few smart people will help you with this.
Israel is the grain of Western values, thrown into the barren desert of Eastern peoples who are unable to catch up with the West and only slander it. Naturally, Palestine belongs to Israel - it should belong to those who are able to build a civilized state there. (Valery Novodvorska)
Israel was not created to disappear - it will flourish and develop. It is a child of hope and a home for the brave. He will not be destroyed by disasters, and even in success he will not lose his moral principles. (John Kennedy)
Jews are unsinkable! If the Arabs throw them into the sea, Israel will become a great maritime power. (Vyacheslav Verkhovsky)
And the most important thing !!! Our future does not depend on what the peoples of the world say, but on what the Jews do. (David Bengurion)
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answered 6 years ago
Do not think Misha that I am against the Jews or their country. I am against totalitarianism in any of its manifestations. I didn’t like it in the USSR, I don’t like it now in Ukraine, and I (I’ve never been interested in the history of other states, but lately something has been drawn) clearly see signs of his birth in the state you sing about. The state, Misha, the machine of coercion, and not in the people or the country, as the territory and community of nationalities inhabiting it. He really began to look like our common homeland. And with totalitarian regimes, it’s always like this - you never know how many people actually love this state, and how many are hypocritical and will take the side of its destroyers at the most inopportune moment.
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answered 6 years ago
No, and after everything I’ve learned, I’m unlikely to visit.
First, for our country to waste such money as my friends lost, it's just terrible.
And secondly, my country is already poor. I'd rather spend money here than drag it to countries that participated - directly or indirectly, in deed or word, it doesn't matter - in the project for the destruction of Ukraine - and this is the entire generalized West, including Israel. I'm not vengeful, but I don't wish well to any of the performers and sponsors of the collapse of the USSR, that now Ukraine is good.
First, for our country to waste such money as my friends lost, it's just terrible.
And secondly, my country is already poor. I'd rather spend money here than drag it to countries that participated - directly or indirectly, in deed or word, it doesn't matter - in the project for the destruction of Ukraine - and this is the entire generalized West, including Israel. I'm not vengeful, but I don't wish well to any of the performers and sponsors of the collapse of the USSR, that now Ukraine is good.
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answered 6 years ago
It is clear, but they did not find another platform for settling accounts ??? I think you have the wrong address and here you will not be able to explain how the "democratic" regime of the USSR and Ukraine differs from the "totalitarian" West, America and Israel. I am sincerely sorry for you for nostalgia for that "good" time, for the fact that you cannot see with your own eyes where and how people live. And I wish you and your country good and prosperity.
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answered 6 years ago
I told my friends about the incident and that's it. The main question was asked by the guys about the deportation and they were correctly answered that there was a violation on their part - they wanted to stay longer than the border guards decided - they could apply at the instance - to the Ministry of the Interior, if I'm not mistaken - with a request to extend the visa and there would be no violations . And you began to develop the theme of the state. Or do you want to broadcast and not be objected to? So you can do this ONLY in your state. By the way, this is a clear sign of a totalitarian state, when there are taboos on some topics. And the person who raises these topics is either marginalized or even punished. I know many Jews who have returned home from Israel. And this is not only because in Israel, as in the USSR, many topics can be discussed at home in the kitchen, subject to good sound insulation. But let's not talk about politics. We answered people's questions. They broke the law, were deported and this will most likely affect the likelihood of obtaining a visa to other developed countries
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answered 6 years ago
And one more thing - I traveled in my youth and I am absolutely not interested in how other people live - unless they need my help. I am interested in architecture, painting, sculpture. At one time I touched this in my homeland - those who have been to both Versailles and Peterhof say that the former is no match for the latter. And we have a lot of places in Ukraine where being in your life you will not guess which country you are in. I can do without Israel and without Versailles. How can I go there, if here I have to help my less fortunate relatives and do not need to help already rich countries. Let them enjoy wealth. But I will always praise those hospitable countries in which people have a good rest and scold those that lure poor tourists with a visa-free regime and leave them without rest, without money, and with terrible impressions of an Israeli prison. God be their judge, he himself will decide how to punish or not to punish.
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answered 6 years ago
Surprisingly, almost all illegal immigrants end up in Israel, while tourists and pilgrims do not.
I personally do not have a single acquaintance who would go to work and be turned away.
I personally do not have a single acquaintance who would go to work and be turned away.
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