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how to get by car from moscow to budva
we want to go by car to montenegro, to budva next year. Through which countries will we have to go. Thanks.
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аватар sandra-art
will have to open visas.
Serbia, Romania, Moldova and Ukraine. This is the shortest route on the map. You can go longer if you wish. depending on what you want to see along the way.
аватар Oleksii64
Are you afraid of getting lost if you ask such questions?
аватар sandra-art
If you make a route at home, you won't get lost. full of pointers. the main thing is to know in which cities of which countries the path to keep and the numbers of the tracks
аватар alex45
You won't have to open visas to Ukraine, I'm not sure about Moldova and Serbia, but I think the Russians have visa-free relations, only Romania remains.
аватар alex45
to lev! meps.google.com showed the shortest and most convenient route through Belarus, Poland, Hungary, Serbia, Montenegro - 2679 km, 37 hours. make a copy of the route and view the landmarks. Once again I recommend it, I use them myself on trips.
аватар sandra-art
I don’t know how it is now in Montenegro, but before the visa-free regime worked only when crossing the borders by air, that is, by plane. by car or bus it was necessary to open visas
аватар alex45
In Croatia and Montenegro, visas for Russians are not needed, but the borders of the Schengen zone are crossed, therefore, according to the rule of the first entry, both for the car and for the bus route, a visa is needed. .
аватар veritasap
Citizens of Ukraine need a visa only for Hungary, but it is the most difficult one. And if past Hungary - the path is longer. Be sure to look on the internet for a video of the roads of Serbia and Montenegro: 1 - is there enough experience, 2 - or very good. the road will be long (if you want to admire the beauty) or you won’t see anything except for the asphalt strip the road is really difficult (but fatigue is dangerous, not the road!) It is better to go with someone and you need a GPS. It is better to go with two cars. And thoroughly study everything in advance on the Internet! Good luck!
аватар alex45
The vehicle is from Russia, so the road through Chop is longer for him. The path according to Google maps, proposed by the vehicle above in terms of mileage, is the shortest. )
аватар sandra-art
veritasap - and since when has the Hungarian Schengen become the most difficult?
аватар hatinka
People! If you plan through Hungary, then why go to Montenegro at all? I would stop at Croatia! Well, or as an option, Croatia + Montenegro, but for this you need to have at least three weeks in order to have time to get there normally, seeing the sights of transit countries and have time, in fact, to relax.
What's the point of the trip? The goal is only Montenegro? If yes, then air + car rental is more cost-effective. If you look at the countries along the way, then personally I would recommend traveling through Serbia and Romania without a Schengen. A Romanian visa, however, is also almost like a Schengen visa in terms of the list of documents, but they will give it without problems. Serbia and Romania are very beautiful countries if the route is laid correctly. The roads of Serbia and the Czech Republic are mountainous, moreover, they are much more difficult than in Austria and Switzerland because the road infrastructure is not so developed. It’s possible to visit such wilds, mother don’t cry! And in Hungary, and in Romania, toll roads, and there and there a visa. Through Moldova, I do not recommend! You need to reduce the number of customs, not increase! Especially back when the car is loaded with food and alcohol (souvenirs - wine, prosciutto, cheeses, etc.). The roads in Moldova are tough, it’s better not to go there, you’re not coming from Odessa, but from Moscow
аватар hatinka
--- It is better to go by two cars---
A very controversial statement! Much longer to go by a couple of cars. Checked many times! The most optimal is one car, 3-4 people, 2 shift drivers.
аватар hatinka
--- the shortest and most convenient route through Belarus, Poland, Hungary, Serbia, Montenegro ---
I do not agree! How can I enter Poland and get to Hungary IMMEDIATELY? Where is Slovakia?
It is difficult for me to advise you to go through Belarus! Roads are good! But what Belarusians sometimes do at customs (both) is not good! Of course, Russians and ours (Ukrainians) can take out the brain.
Second! Poland. Did someone go? There are practically no autobahns! There you tulish 50 km and a lot of road repairs with traffic jams. From Rzeszów to Kosice is an ordinary almost village road. Slovakia is already better, but from Krosno to Presov is exactly the same narrow, somewhat mountainous road, with a bunch of speed limits. The site in Poland and Slovakia is not the most convenient. In Hungary, a piece is normal, but tiny. Serbia, everything is clear there, the mountains are still the same, but without them there is no way. In this option, you will have to drive along the whole of Serbia, while not tasting high-quality European roads (autobahns).
In Romania, the roads, to be honest, are also not so hot, but nevertheless, there are a lot of new roads and the country is beautiful. + Serbia will be much smaller.
The options to travel all over Croatia in CG are a must or stay in Croatia and not go to CG at all! It just doesn't make sense. Long and expensive!
аватар hatinka
+ not taken into account in Google’s version (by the way, only the third most optimal, the recommended optimal one in general through Austria, Slovenia and Croatia is just crazy) the fact that in Ukraine everyone doesn’t go according to the rules (and Google considers according to the rules) and Ukraine can really slip through quickly at an average speed of 100 km / h (I do not advise, it's just that everyone drives like that). And in Belarus, Poland, Slovakia will have to go by the rules ;-)
аватар hatinka
On the other hand, having received the Schengen and passing there through Belarus, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Serbia. Back you will have a choice - to go the same way or to have an adventure and go through Romania and Ukraine (Romania gives transit 5 days with a valid Schengen visa without a Romanian visa).
I think the option is good - you will see a lot more if the goal is to SEE more. If the goal is CHG and only CHG, lying on the sea and the apparent cheapness and ease of travel by car. Don't go!!! It's better to rent a car.
аватар veritasap
For sandra-art: Hungary does not give Schengen! just a visa. The problem is that in Schengen), a visa requires a lot of documents (including proof of solvency, how they pick on when issuing a visa and crossing the border (they check bags, strictly control alcohol and cheese!:) etc.)
аватар sandra-art
veritasap - Since December 2007, Hungary has become a member of the Schengen countries. Therefore, citizens of Russia and the CIS to enter its territory must obtain a Schengen visa to Hungary.
There are the following types of visas to Hungary:
The Schengen visa to Hungary category "A" - is intended for those who transit through the controlled area of ​​the airport in Hungary to third countries within 24 hours.
Schengen visa to Hungary category "B" - a transit visa to Hungary, intended for those who transit through the territory of Hungary to third countries that are not part of the Schengen countries.
Schengen visa to Hungary category "C" - a short-term entry Schengen visa to Hungary. This type of visa is intended for those persons whose purpose of visit is tourism, medical treatment, visiting friends, relatives or a short-term business trip.
Schengen visa to Hungary category "D" - long-term multiple Schengen visa to Hungary for a stay of more than 90 days.
it is in Romania and Bulgaria that "type" Schengen visas are opened, which do not give the right to travel to other countries of the Schengen Zone.
and in Hungary for a very long time Schengen
аватар hatinka
Guys!
1. The fact that Hungary is not a Schengen is a good joke. It is strange that the one who undertakes to advise does not know this. And not at all the most difficult, especially during transit.
2. Visa B - transit, canceled in 2010. Now, when transiting, you need to get the usual short-term C-Schengen, providing documents about where you are going and so on.
3. In fact, the Schengen visa and the Romanian visa for the package of docks are very similar, but with Schengen you can go to Romania and Bulgaria (no more than 5 days in each country, entry and exit through different checkpoints). You can't enter Schengen with a Romanian visa.
4. If there was no experience of traveling abroad, there was no experience of driving on real mountain roads, etc., it might be worth starting with something simpler. Indeed, in the proposed route there are at least 5 countries of travel, with very different visa and customs rules, and all this for the sake of Montenegro ... Still, if for the sake of Croatia ...
аватар alexkiev
on this site there is a description of several routes from Kyiv
http://bonissa.net/puteshestviya-na-avtomobile/iz-ukrainy-v-chernogoriyu/
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