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I'm going abroad for the first time! I want to go to Egypt!! The question is what documents need to be filled out, what remains on hand, well, if force majeure ??? In what currency is the payment for the tour in the travel agency of Ukraine!!! And what should you pay special attention to?
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Since Egypt is a visa-free country, you do not need to provide any documents (for example, a certificate of employment, income, bank statements, etc.). Only a passport is required. You must conclude a Tour Service Agreement. It should be read very carefully. The contract specifies all the points - which hotel you are heading to, which room you are allocated (single / double, with a sea / park view, what kind of food system - BB, HB, All), is the round trip transfer included in the tour price, whether excursions are included, etc. Force majeure issues are also prescribed in detail in the Agreement. One copy of the signed Agreement must be handed over to you. Payment in almost all travel agencies is carried out in UAH. at the rate on the day of payment. In order for the manager to start the hotel booking procedure, you will need to pay at least 10 - 20% of the total cost of the tour.
As soon as the booking is confirmed and tickets are available, you pay the full cost of the tour. It is also better to keep all receipts for the tour payment. As a rule, the day before departure, the tour manager must give you all the documents - a voucher for accommodation in a hotel, air tickets, a tour program, medical insurance.
As soon as the booking is confirmed and tickets are available, you pay the full cost of the tour. It is also better to keep all receipts for the tour payment. As a rule, the day before departure, the tour manager must give you all the documents - a voucher for accommodation in a hotel, air tickets, a tour program, medical insurance.
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answered 15 years ago
Just in case, I'll tell you how we do it.
After consultations and selection of a tour, we book a tour with a tour operator. To do this, you need: last name and first name from the passport and date of birth, nothing else, even the passport number is no longer needed, i.e. not necessary. I always want to see my passport just to make sure it's valid and all that. We do not take a deposit (until the tourists were deceived), although in general it is necessary to take it in the amount for which there will be a fine if the tourist refuses to pay for this tour later. This amount is different for each tour operator and is then spelled out in the contract (already mentioned above). After confirming the tour, we print out the booking confirmation from the tour operator's website and give it to the tourist. This is in case you cannot pick up the documents at the agency and will pick them up at the airport 2 hours before departure.
If the courier is run over by a tram and he does not bring your documents to the airport, then according to this confirmation you can check in for the flight and then check into a hotel. Then we look at the rate of c.u. on the website of the tour operator and in hryvnias, we take the payment from the tourist for the tour, after which we issue a receipt, an agreement and all supporting information documents.
After consultations and selection of a tour, we book a tour with a tour operator. To do this, you need: last name and first name from the passport and date of birth, nothing else, even the passport number is no longer needed, i.e. not necessary. I always want to see my passport just to make sure it's valid and all that. We do not take a deposit (until the tourists were deceived), although in general it is necessary to take it in the amount for which there will be a fine if the tourist refuses to pay for this tour later. This amount is different for each tour operator and is then spelled out in the contract (already mentioned above). After confirming the tour, we print out the booking confirmation from the tour operator's website and give it to the tourist. This is in case you cannot pick up the documents at the agency and will pick them up at the airport 2 hours before departure.
If the courier is run over by a tram and he does not bring your documents to the airport, then according to this confirmation you can check in for the flight and then check into a hotel. Then we look at the rate of c.u. on the website of the tour operator and in hryvnias, we take the payment from the tourist for the tour, after which we issue a receipt, an agreement and all supporting information documents.
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answered 15 years ago
the day before departure, we check whether the departure time has changed and inform the tourist by phone. We wish you a happy journey. :)))
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answered 15 years ago
if you are so afraid that you will be deceived, then before paying for the tour, call the tour operator yourself, name the confirmation number (which the agency will print out on the website and give you), ask if this tour is booked in your name, in your hotel and whether the application is confirmed. But I don't think anyone will deceive you.
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answered 15 years ago
in the agency you will be given a contract and a receipt for payment
payment in hryvnia at the rate set by a specific
tour operator on the day of payment for the tour
Tickets / insurance will be issued to you
or at the airport on the day of departure
or in the agency (you can discuss with the manager)
payment in hryvnia at the rate set by a specific
tour operator on the day of payment for the tour
Tickets / insurance will be issued to you
or at the airport on the day of departure
or in the agency (you can discuss with the manager)
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answered 15 years ago
In the contract, in addition to what I have already written above (all the conditions of the tour), the rights and obligations of the parties, responsibility, payment procedure, and the term of the contract are prescribed. As a rule, tour operators (travel agents) already have a Standard form of a contract for travel services. But if you do not agree with any clause, you can always correct it right in the text of the contract with your own hand.
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answered 15 years ago
I'll add my five cents.
Buying a tour to Egypt, like the tour itself, is processed and carried out much easier than tours within Ukraine. Therefore, there is no need to be afraid.
For example, if you buy a tour to some hotel in the Carpathians or Crimea, then you will have to decide on your own the issue of delivering yourself to the hotel (tickets for the train, plane, taxi from the station). At the same time, at best, you will have in your hands a voucher of an arbitrary sample - the work of an agency that will arrange a tour for you.
No hotel guides, insurance, hotlines.
Tours to Egypt - package. They sell you the whole set of services - flights, transfers (delivery to the hotel), insurance and accommodation in a certain hotel, in a certain type of room, with a certain type of food.
At 6 in the morning we flew out of the nearest million-plus city, and at 13.00 you can already sunbathe on the beach.
Moreover, you are protected from all sides - the Law on Tourism, the Law on the Protection of Consumer Rights.
Tours are carried out by large, reliable operators (TEZTUR, Turtess, Pekgas, Coral Travel), each of which sends more than one hundred thousand tourists abroad per year.
Buying a tour to Egypt, like the tour itself, is processed and carried out much easier than tours within Ukraine. Therefore, there is no need to be afraid.
For example, if you buy a tour to some hotel in the Carpathians or Crimea, then you will have to decide on your own the issue of delivering yourself to the hotel (tickets for the train, plane, taxi from the station). At the same time, at best, you will have in your hands a voucher of an arbitrary sample - the work of an agency that will arrange a tour for you.
No hotel guides, insurance, hotlines.
Tours to Egypt - package. They sell you the whole set of services - flights, transfers (delivery to the hotel), insurance and accommodation in a certain hotel, in a certain type of room, with a certain type of food.
At 6 in the morning we flew out of the nearest million-plus city, and at 13.00 you can already sunbathe on the beach.
Moreover, you are protected from all sides - the Law on Tourism, the Law on the Protection of Consumer Rights.
Tours are carried out by large, reliable operators (TEZTUR, Turtess, Pekgas, Coral Travel), each of which sends more than one hundred thousand tourists abroad per year.
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answered 15 years ago
There must be an agreement. The header of the contract must contain the details of the agency that arranges the tour, on behalf of which operator they act and your full name.
Contracts are drawn up according to the model given by the operator. Deviations from the operator's text, as a rule, agencies do not take upon themselves. Since in this case the tour operator disclaims responsibility for possible disputes. Therefore, changes in the text of the contract in general and writing by hand, in particular, are very rare.
In the text of the contract or in an annex to it, it should be written what you ordered - dates, hotel, type of room and meals, passport data of tourists, type of seats on the plane (economy, as a rule), type of transfer (group, as a rule) and amount under contract.
There is also a list of documents that you must issue.
Receipt documents (receipt, cash order) must be issued for the amounts paid by you.
Settlements in Ukraine should be made only in hryvnia. This is in theory. But in the contract and in receipts there should be only hryvnia.
Ask for a tour booking. If the booking is made, then you are already on the flight.
Documents are issued all together - a package. Etc. etc.
Contracts are drawn up according to the model given by the operator. Deviations from the operator's text, as a rule, agencies do not take upon themselves. Since in this case the tour operator disclaims responsibility for possible disputes. Therefore, changes in the text of the contract in general and writing by hand, in particular, are very rare.
In the text of the contract or in an annex to it, it should be written what you ordered - dates, hotel, type of room and meals, passport data of tourists, type of seats on the plane (economy, as a rule), type of transfer (group, as a rule) and amount under contract.
There is also a list of documents that you must issue.
Receipt documents (receipt, cash order) must be issued for the amounts paid by you.
Settlements in Ukraine should be made only in hryvnia. This is in theory. But in the contract and in receipts there should be only hryvnia.
Ask for a tour booking. If the booking is made, then you are already on the flight.
Documents are issued all together - a package. Etc. etc.
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answered 15 years ago
I will only note that it is not always possible to make a reservation in front of you, since you can often wait a day for confirmation of this reservation. You will not wait at the monitor when everything is confirmed. But a printout from the site after confirmation is already an important document.
One more thing. I sometimes witness how some agencies issue contracts to tourists, which describe all of the above, without waiting for confirmation of the booking. This is especially true of last-minute departures such as today for tomorrow. A tourist goes to the airport (especially if traveling from far away) and only there he is informed that the tour has not been confirmed and he returns back with nothing. So the contract basically does nothing. Only tour booking confirmation! Then everything depends on the tour operator, and not on the agency, and they will definitely not leave you here, even if they made some mistake.
And the last.
If you booked a tour with Pegasus and the agency did not pay for the reservation within 3 days, your tour will be automatically canceled. So it will not be superfluous to call the tour operator before departure and ask again if your application is relevant, giving the confirmation number I'm talking about.
One more thing. I sometimes witness how some agencies issue contracts to tourists, which describe all of the above, without waiting for confirmation of the booking. This is especially true of last-minute departures such as today for tomorrow. A tourist goes to the airport (especially if traveling from far away) and only there he is informed that the tour has not been confirmed and he returns back with nothing. So the contract basically does nothing. Only tour booking confirmation! Then everything depends on the tour operator, and not on the agency, and they will definitely not leave you here, even if they made some mistake.
And the last.
If you booked a tour with Pegasus and the agency did not pay for the reservation within 3 days, your tour will be automatically canceled. So it will not be superfluous to call the tour operator before departure and ask again if your application is relevant, giving the confirmation number I'm talking about.
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answered 15 years ago
There is no need to wait near the monitor for booking confirmation.
I repeat, the meaning of booking with you is the following - if the booking is made, then you are already on the flight. Those. seats on the plane are already assigned to you.
In addition, the reservation made means that the process has been launched, the price has been fixed, the operator has taken control of the agency's actions.
Cancellation of the application about the reason for non-payment is an emergency for all participants in the process. Agencies are heavily fined for this. One or two such cases and such an agency will be forced to curtail its business.
I repeat, the meaning of booking with you is the following - if the booking is made, then you are already on the flight. Those. seats on the plane are already assigned to you.
In addition, the reservation made means that the process has been launched, the price has been fixed, the operator has taken control of the agency's actions.
Cancellation of the application about the reason for non-payment is an emergency for all participants in the process. Agencies are heavily fined for this. One or two such cases and such an agency will be forced to curtail its business.
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answered 15 years ago
One gets the impression that the discussion has already gone beyond the scope of answering the question and resembles a dispute between tour managers / operators / agents.
Why load a person who flies abroad to Egypt for the first time with such details.
It seems to me that the main thing to advise in such a situation is to contact well-known travel companies that have been operating in the market for a long time and have a good reputation to order a tour. Believe me, they value their reputation and will not deceive you.
Why load a person who flies abroad to Egypt for the first time with such details.
It seems to me that the main thing to advise in such a situation is to contact well-known travel companies that have been operating in the market for a long time and have a good reputation to order a tour. Believe me, they value their reputation and will not deceive you.
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it's not about cheating. Those who have not worked with Anex tour do not know how they can confirm a booked tour at a different price and then say that they cannot do anything, since the price has grown. And they simply forgot to warn the agency about this. Or refuse a hotel that is available in the booking list and replace it with one that has been in the stop for a long time, sometimes also without warning.
Booking a tour is really a guarantee that you were put on a flight, but the hotel may refuse and you will have to choose another hotel that is not always suitable for price and quality. Most often this is the case. And then you need to book with another operator.
Only confirmation of booking a tour with a number and status "ok" or "confirmed" guarantees your trip. And then there were (albeit very rare) cases at Nord when these reservations were canceled. But this is really an emergency.
For this we take our commission, that we follow all this and rake up these problems. And farewell correctly said "the main thing to advise in such a situation is to contact well-known travel companies that have been operating in the market for a long time and have a good reputation to order a tour." To those who value their reputation.
Booking a tour is really a guarantee that you were put on a flight, but the hotel may refuse and you will have to choose another hotel that is not always suitable for price and quality. Most often this is the case. And then you need to book with another operator.
Only confirmation of booking a tour with a number and status "ok" or "confirmed" guarantees your trip. And then there were (albeit very rare) cases at Nord when these reservations were canceled. But this is really an emergency.
For this we take our commission, that we follow all this and rake up these problems. And farewell correctly said "the main thing to advise in such a situation is to contact well-known travel companies that have been operating in the market for a long time and have a good reputation to order a tour." To those who value their reputation.
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answered 15 years ago
to farewell. You signed up two weeks ago. If you "live" here a little, you will see that here, as in life, not everything is so simple. For example, information in response to questions is used not only by the questioners. The motivation of those answering questions is different and not always so simple - to answer the question. In addition, if the answer to the question contains distorted or inaccurate information, then all the "knowledgeable" consider it their duty to clarify and inform.
For example, you gave a recipe - "well-known travel companies that have been operating in the market for a long time and have a good reputation." Do you think that a tourist traveling for the first time can use such a recipe? I believe that this is an obvious general phrase that does not carry any specific information and does not give a methodology for resolving the issue. Simply put, this is not the answer.
Let's discuss this thesis in more detail. How to choose such a company? I think it will be interesting for everyone.
For example, you gave a recipe - "well-known travel companies that have been operating in the market for a long time and have a good reputation." Do you think that a tourist traveling for the first time can use such a recipe? I believe that this is an obvious general phrase that does not carry any specific information and does not give a methodology for resolving the issue. Simply put, this is not the answer.
Let's discuss this thesis in more detail. How to choose such a company? I think it will be interesting for everyone.
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answered 15 years ago
HotLine you are right about the common phrase, but not quite. Perhaps in a metropolis it is really difficult to identify such a company, but in cities everything is less visible and heard, and one has only to ask a question, as soon as there will be a lot of answers. Bad rumors spread especially well. if everything is fine, then the client simply remains silent and does not shout at the top of his voice: "Oh, what a good company this is!!!". And when the company blew up in something, then it is heard throughout the city. And the fewer such rumors, the better this company, right?
And another purely informative question, if not difficult. What should a tourist do if a courier did not come to the airport, did not bring documents and the travel agency phone is silent?
And another purely informative question, if not difficult. What should a tourist do if a courier did not come to the airport, did not bring documents and the travel agency phone is silent?
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and further. The question was asked: "what remains on hand, well, if force majeure." My answer: tour booking confirmation printed from the tour operator's website with the status "OK" or "Confirmed". Is it possible to know your opinion on this matter, dear HotLine. No hints, just curious.
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Dear Hotline. Firstly, in two weeks "here" I noticed that the participants in the discussions can so deviate from the topic and get carried away with their own dialogue that they generally forget how it all started and for whom they tried so hard and in a hurry to answer the question. Secondly, it seems to me that now people do not live in an information vacuum. There are advertisements, stories of acquaintances / friends, the same Internet from where you can get information about the travel company. Regarding your remark that the advice to contact proven travel companies is "an obvious general phrase that does not carry any specific information and does not give a methodology for resolving the issue," I want to note the following. In 2007, just like the author of the question about the trip to Egypt, I was going abroad for the first time. When typing "Kyiv Travel Companies" in Yandex, a link to the travel agency "CAM" appeared. If you have ever visited their site, you cannot but agree that it is the most informative and complete.
In addition, the company itself has existed since 1991. This was the main criterion for me when choosing a travel agency to order a tour. By the way, I still use the services of this travel agency. This is to some extent the answer to your answer, how to choose the right travel company.
In addition, the company itself has existed since 1991. This was the main criterion for me when choosing a travel agency to order a tour. By the way, I still use the services of this travel agency. This is to some extent the answer to your answer, how to choose the right travel company.
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I recently answered Amir's question about the articles of bicycle law in Egypt. It turned out that it was a provocation. Therefore, it is not interesting to answer. Amir's technique in case of force majeure - to register and go on a tour on the basis of a tour confirmation printout, I think is wrong. We do not recommend this to tourists, and we do not work with operators where the Fly manager may not show up for check-in. If a tourist asks why, I will answer.
to farewell. Regarding your phrase - "the participants in the discussions can deviate from the topic so much." If these are reproaches in my direction, then look at this thread again. I joined in it, practically, at the finish line and simply and comprehensively answered the question asked. At the same time, he did not give any comments or assessments of the previous answers. In response, I received a whole chain of comments from you and Amir.
to farewell. Regarding your phrase - "the participants in the discussions can deviate from the topic so much." If these are reproaches in my direction, then look at this thread again. I joined in it, practically, at the finish line and simply and comprehensively answered the question asked. At the same time, he did not give any comments or assessments of the previous answers. In response, I received a whole chain of comments from you and Amir.
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Now to the essence of the last topic touched upon. Make the same request in Yandex now. And you will see that this technique does not work now. Yes, and in 2007 it was not the best decision. Try to formulate a definition - what is a CAM company. Once it was a brand, a leading travel business in Ukraine. Today, this leadership has been lost. Today the leaders are TEZTUR, TURTESS, PEGASS, Coral Travel. Is it right to buy tours from a company that for some reason has become an outsider. Do you buy goods in the store from such manufacturers?
Concerning the SAM website. I tried to look at their charter program now to show the ratio of the number of flights from Sam and one of the leaders. The flight schedule is not loading. So I could not evaluate the quality of the site. But the phrase below - "* The schedule is advertising. Changes are possible in it" - pleased.
If there is a desire to communicate further on the topics covered, then there is a proposal not to overload this thread. Please create a thread here on the forum, beacon me and I will join the discussion.
Concerning the SAM website. I tried to look at their charter program now to show the ratio of the number of flights from Sam and one of the leaders. The flight schedule is not loading. So I could not evaluate the quality of the site. But the phrase below - "* The schedule is advertising. Changes are possible in it" - pleased.
If there is a desire to communicate further on the topics covered, then there is a proposal not to overload this thread. Please create a thread here on the forum, beacon me and I will join the discussion.
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answered 15 years ago
Dear Hotline. Of course, I have no desire to engage in a verbal skirmish, but I cannot leave your last remark without an answer.
Answered the question "simple and detailed" not you alone, but all the participants in the discussion. But when you began to delve into the issues of "cancellation of the application", "penalization of agencies" and so on, I got the impression that it is more important for you not to answer the question (simple and detailed), but to show how much more competent you are than everyone put together in this matter.
And regarding the fact that you did not give any ratings for answers - you just rated my answer as "not an answer." Therefore, the discussion chain needs to be re-read just for you.
With deep respect for your professional knowledge, FAREWELL.
Answered the question "simple and detailed" not you alone, but all the participants in the discussion. But when you began to delve into the issues of "cancellation of the application", "penalization of agencies" and so on, I got the impression that it is more important for you not to answer the question (simple and detailed), but to show how much more competent you are than everyone put together in this matter.
And regarding the fact that you did not give any ratings for answers - you just rated my answer as "not an answer." Therefore, the discussion chain needs to be re-read just for you.
With deep respect for your professional knowledge, FAREWELL.
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answered 15 years ago
I reviewed this post again.
And I repeat for the second time - please note that in my first answer I did not write about cancellations, fines and the quality of your answers. I made a detailed answer to the question asked.
All my subsequent posts were responses to the remarks of other participants in the discussion.
I'm not looking for respect here and I'm not asserting myself. I have other tasks - to answer competently questions. I almost never answer first.
I write answers when I think that the person has not received complete information or other answers may lead the person astray.
And again - let's not clutter up this post.
To the forum.
And I repeat for the second time - please note that in my first answer I did not write about cancellations, fines and the quality of your answers. I made a detailed answer to the question asked.
All my subsequent posts were responses to the remarks of other participants in the discussion.
I'm not looking for respect here and I'm not asserting myself. I have other tasks - to answer competently questions. I almost never answer first.
I write answers when I think that the person has not received complete information or other answers may lead the person astray.
And again - let's not clutter up this post.
To the forum.
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HotLine and you do not litter the branch, but simply answer the question. I, unlike you, am not the smartest on this site (I support farewell in the last answer) and I am also interested in knowing the answer, because here we also learn, and not just answer questions like you. And this is not a provocation. I really want to know what a tourist should have or do in case of force majeure, because documents can not be transferred not only from Anex (and don’t say that you don’t work with them), this happened in Turtessa in Lviv. So, don't work with Turtess either? And this is just my personal experience. I am sure that every agency has such experience and everyone has figured out for himself what to do in such cases. I came up with the idea of issuing a confirmation of the tour, it passes, it is checked. What would you suggest? You are the smartest here and should know. Why don't you want to share? That's what this question is for.
One more thing.
I am not a tourist, but I am wondering why you think that issuing a tour confirmation in case of force majeure is not correct. It works. Or suggest something better.
One more thing.
I am not a tourist, but I am wondering why you think that issuing a tour confirmation in case of force majeure is not correct. It works. Or suggest something better.
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Please, if you are asking about me, then read my answers.
I repeat -
"If a tourist asks why, I will answer",
"If there is a desire to communicate further on the topics covered, then there is a proposal not to overload this thread. Please create a thread here on the forum, beacon me and I will join the discussion."
But I don't like your caustic tone. Therefore, at the moment I do not promise that I will join the discussion. You don't need my knowledge, you need your status.
But I don’t see any point in communicating further in this thread for myself and the tourist.
I repeat -
"If a tourist asks why, I will answer",
"If there is a desire to communicate further on the topics covered, then there is a proposal not to overload this thread. Please create a thread here on the forum, beacon me and I will join the discussion."
But I don't like your caustic tone. Therefore, at the moment I do not promise that I will join the discussion. You don't need my knowledge, you need your status.
But I don’t see any point in communicating further in this thread for myself and the tourist.
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answered 15 years ago
My message will be the last. Emphasize the first word. Remember?
As for the answers, if there is nothing to offer, then there is nothing to object to those who offer something. It is always possible to say that a person is wrong, but to offer something smart is already more difficult. You did not explain why you think that my method is not suitable for force majeure, although it really works. You did not offer anything in this regard for the tourist, but simply wrote a bunch of unnecessary answers.
My tone is normal, I study on this site and do not consider it humiliating, even if I take this knowledge from you. And if you have some extra thoughts in the process of this, then I'm not to blame.
And the last. Do you come to the site only to show that you have some knowledge or to share it? If the first, then you have nothing to do here, and if the second, then why did I not wait for an answer to the question posed?
I think the tourist who originally asked this question would also be interested to hear your answer, and not just the denial of the proposals of other experts.
Or just offer nothing to the smartest expert of the site?
As for the answers, if there is nothing to offer, then there is nothing to object to those who offer something. It is always possible to say that a person is wrong, but to offer something smart is already more difficult. You did not explain why you think that my method is not suitable for force majeure, although it really works. You did not offer anything in this regard for the tourist, but simply wrote a bunch of unnecessary answers.
My tone is normal, I study on this site and do not consider it humiliating, even if I take this knowledge from you. And if you have some extra thoughts in the process of this, then I'm not to blame.
And the last. Do you come to the site only to show that you have some knowledge or to share it? If the first, then you have nothing to do here, and if the second, then why did I not wait for an answer to the question posed?
I think the tourist who originally asked this question would also be interested to hear your answer, and not just the denial of the proposals of other experts.
Or just offer nothing to the smartest expert of the site?
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You are still having problems with the latest messages. I'm not surprised. I am open. I wonder if you remember your last post? I can quote here, with your permission.
The third time I write, if a tourist asks, I will answer.
Regarding the tone of your comments. It cannot be considered normal.
“there is nothing to object to”, “they wrote a bunch of unnecessary answers”, “some extra thoughts”, “there is simply nothing to offer”.
This is fine?
The second time - if you are contacting me, then read my answers. I already wrote why I'm here.
For who actually answered the question, check out the ratings of the answers in this thread.
And at the same time decide who started the showdown here.
At the time of writing this comment, my first answers are rated +1.5 and +1, and yours are -0.5, 0 and 0.
The third time I write, if a tourist asks, I will answer.
Regarding the tone of your comments. It cannot be considered normal.
“there is nothing to object to”, “they wrote a bunch of unnecessary answers”, “some extra thoughts”, “there is simply nothing to offer”.
This is fine?
The second time - if you are contacting me, then read my answers. I already wrote why I'm here.
For who actually answered the question, check out the ratings of the answers in this thread.
And at the same time decide who started the showdown here.
At the time of writing this comment, my first answers are rated +1.5 and +1, and yours are -0.5, 0 and 0.
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what about the ratings? I gave the answer, you didn't. Why? I have only one conclusion: you do not have it. And I don't see anything wrong with that. Me, but not you. You always have an answer for everything.
Who started the fight? The one who always starts them. "... Therefore, it is not interesting to answer", "Amir's method ... I consider wrong", without explaining why. "In response, I received a whole chain of comments from you and Amir." Before that, all answers were just normal dialogue. And these are not comments, but, as you yourself said, "if distorted or inaccurate information is indicated in the answer to a question, then all the" knowledgeable "consider it their duty to clarify and inform." That is exactly what I did. I just found a lot of inaccuracies in your answers and distortion. And your biased attitude towards me and your own arrogance do not allow you to correctly evaluate the corrections or additions to your words. This is not even criticism, no one criticizes or denies your answers.
I also advise you to do this less and treat the respondents with dignity, even if you really know more than them and have been on the site for more than 2 weeks (what you pricked farewell with) and there will be no more such problems.
Who started the fight? The one who always starts them. "... Therefore, it is not interesting to answer", "Amir's method ... I consider wrong", without explaining why. "In response, I received a whole chain of comments from you and Amir." Before that, all answers were just normal dialogue. And these are not comments, but, as you yourself said, "if distorted or inaccurate information is indicated in the answer to a question, then all the" knowledgeable "consider it their duty to clarify and inform." That is exactly what I did. I just found a lot of inaccuracies in your answers and distortion. And your biased attitude towards me and your own arrogance do not allow you to correctly evaluate the corrections or additions to your words. This is not even criticism, no one criticizes or denies your answers.
I also advise you to do this less and treat the respondents with dignity, even if you really know more than them and have been on the site for more than 2 weeks (what you pricked farewell with) and there will be no more such problems.
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Remember the question about Africa? Instead of answering, the woman sold her advertisement. I made a remark that this is not the place here. You praised her after my remark. Do you think I don't know why you're doing this? I don't think you're in favor of spreading chaos on the site. They just wanted to hook me. And it's the same here. You just want to show your "I" and it infuriates you when someone offers something, but you can't. This man needs to be put down!
And what is the phrase "I do not think, but I know." Everyone on the site thinks, but HotLine knows. It was not a provocation. I just wanted to show you that you are just like everyone else.
And what is the phrase "I do not think, but I know." Everyone on the site thinks, but HotLine knows. It was not a provocation. I just wanted to show you that you are just like everyone else.
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and personally to you I have a double attitude. I respect people like you for being able to accumulate so much knowledge, I am grateful that I took a lot of things from your advice and consider you a very useful expert on the site. I think that many visitors and experts would be happy to communicate with you, share their experience and ask for help, even I, because I am the same as everyone else. But...
...your arrogance does not allow you to communicate with these people on an equal footing, because you are a HotLine, and there is no need to listen to them.
It's a pity. You rarely meet smart and knowledgeable people.
...your arrogance does not allow you to communicate with these people on an equal footing, because you are a HotLine, and there is no need to listen to them.
It's a pity. You rarely meet smart and knowledgeable people.
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answered 15 years ago
nadin_20 I beg your pardon for personal disassembly in your question. One word from you and there will be no more messages from me.
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You have to repeat all the time.
I repeat - with the latest messages you still have problems.
Regarding tone: compare
mine - "Amir's method ... I think is wrong"
and yours - "And as for the answers, then if there is nothing to offer, then there is nothing to object to those who offer something."
Feel the difference?
Concerning the question of Africa. I answered only because for an interesting and rare answer a person received moralizing and comments from you. I thought I'd give my opinion on the quality of the answer. Since, based on your remark, a person might think that no one is interested in his presence on the site. And this is not so. At the same time, he did not write a word about you. How incorrect is my phrase -
"to ameli2911.
I have read your information with interest. A very rare direction and it's very nice that there are people who know the topic. Thanks."
What happened after that, those who wish can see the link - http://www.turpravda.com/za/question-7519.html
I repeat - with the latest messages you still have problems.
Regarding tone: compare
mine - "Amir's method ... I think is wrong"
and yours - "And as for the answers, then if there is nothing to offer, then there is nothing to object to those who offer something."
Feel the difference?
Concerning the question of Africa. I answered only because for an interesting and rare answer a person received moralizing and comments from you. I thought I'd give my opinion on the quality of the answer. Since, based on your remark, a person might think that no one is interested in his presence on the site. And this is not so. At the same time, he did not write a word about you. How incorrect is my phrase -
"to ameli2911.
I have read your information with interest. A very rare direction and it's very nice that there are people who know the topic. Thanks."
What happened after that, those who wish can see the link - http://www.turpravda.com/za/question-7519.html
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