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Children 1.9 and 6.5 years old are going with their grandmother where Anapa, Turkey, Bulgaria, Spain?
I can’t explain to my grandmother that I need to go abroad, she is afraid of everything, we are going for the first time and possibly the last for the next five years, we need a strong argument. Grandma is 55 years old.
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I would also like to hear him, this "weighty argument." You can't force it.
I am a traveler with great experience. And I noticed behind me that I don’t want to go to Europe, on sightseeing tours.
But I fly to Egypt with pleasure, I go diving.
We don’t rest anywhere, I don’t think the payment is adequate for rest.
You need to be afraid in moderation - this is called common sense.
I wish you to find a place of rest that is acceptable and comfortable for everyone. You are resting somewhere anyway.
I am a traveler with great experience. And I noticed behind me that I don’t want to go to Europe, on sightseeing tours.
But I fly to Egypt with pleasure, I go diving.
We don’t rest anywhere, I don’t think the payment is adequate for rest.
You need to be afraid in moderation - this is called common sense.
I wish you to find a place of rest that is acceptable and comfortable for everyone. You are resting somewhere anyway.
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answered 14 years ago
First, decide on a resort for yourself, then find beautiful photos of hotels on the Internet, positive reviews about these hotels and show your grandmother. You can go to the websites of operators and show stop lists for hotels and places on planes, this will show you how many people travel. You can take a photo from friends who have already rested in these countries.
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answered 14 years ago
yeah) show a photo of Ritz Carlton)) you don’t need to show photos of hotels, but photos of sights, give them a read. let grandma choose. if he is afraid to fly, then by train, but small children will not stand it. your grandmother is very young. here not only a weighty, but also a reasonable argument is needed.
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answered 14 years ago
With a child and a grandmother - Turkey.
Unfortunately, there are no universal arguments. Personally, for the first time, I forcibly dragged my mother to Turkey :) I blackmailed me with something, I don’t remember exactly, but it was something within the family. She had a culture shock there, now every year in October she MUST go to Turkey. And the whole year before that, she prepares, buys dresses, swimwear and beach bags :) Reviews of acquaintances, photos of hotels, my stories did not work at all. Mom is 67 this year.
You can try this: "Mom, we (... children's names) are going to Turkey (Spain), I can't do it myself, we really need your help. Please come with us." Those. report as a decision.
I do not advise Bulgaria - you can be very disappointed. The need to obtain a visa to Spain can work against you when debating with your grandmother.
Unfortunately, there are no universal arguments. Personally, for the first time, I forcibly dragged my mother to Turkey :) I blackmailed me with something, I don’t remember exactly, but it was something within the family. She had a culture shock there, now every year in October she MUST go to Turkey. And the whole year before that, she prepares, buys dresses, swimwear and beach bags :) Reviews of acquaintances, photos of hotels, my stories did not work at all. Mom is 67 this year.
You can try this: "Mom, we (... children's names) are going to Turkey (Spain), I can't do it myself, we really need your help. Please come with us." Those. report as a decision.
I do not advise Bulgaria - you can be very disappointed. The need to obtain a visa to Spain can work against you when debating with your grandmother.
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answered 14 years ago
Yes, it is difficult to get a Spanish visa, after all, in your case, you need to follow the line of least resistance.
So Turkey remains, well, maybe include Egypt in the list.
Does your grandmother swim?
So Turkey remains, well, maybe include Egypt in the list.
Does your grandmother swim?
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answered 14 years ago
Arguments can still be found. Your grandmother is simply afraid of the new (probably the Soviet complex), you can’t live like an egg shell. A person essentially strives for the new and the unknown, he just needs to be pushed towards this. There are so many interesting things in the world and you should not miss a single chance to see how they live in other countries, with other customs, culture ... each country has its own secrets, paradise places, ancient sights that you have to discover. This is a lot of positive, this must be seen and cannot be told, no matter what country it touches.
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answered 14 years ago
--admiraltou=
You write so convincingly, please convince me. I have been traveling since 1985, I have seen many countries, it is easier to list where I have not been.
But for the last two years I don’t want to go ANYWHERE. The documents are in order, there is money. There is no the most important thing - DESIRE.
And what to do and who is to blame?
There is no depression.
You write so convincingly, please convince me. I have been traveling since 1985, I have seen many countries, it is easier to list where I have not been.
But for the last two years I don’t want to go ANYWHERE. The documents are in order, there is money. There is no the most important thing - DESIRE.
And what to do and who is to blame?
There is no depression.
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answered 14 years ago
elenako, Well, I think there are several reasons.
You probably cannot decide where you would like to go and you have not been there. Because you have a lot of experiences in the background and don't expect to see something shockingly new. Not knowing where you have not been, I cannot suggest - for example, where I would like to fly. In Rio, for a carnival, for example, to Central Africa to nature reserves, to America to Indian recreations, a tour of the abandoned cities-powers of the Maya, although I think that you can search under your nose and be sure to find an entertaining travel option.
Also, you could lose the desire to travel with those with whom you are doing this, find a new, interesting company for you and maybe everything will change.
Just like every person, your priorities in life could change, before you were gravitated to travel, and now you like to "stay at home" =). I hope your desire just decided to relax, but it will definitely come back!!!
After all, people are created to travel, remember the nomadic tribes of our ancestors =) (and as always, sorry for the bad Russian)
You probably cannot decide where you would like to go and you have not been there. Because you have a lot of experiences in the background and don't expect to see something shockingly new. Not knowing where you have not been, I cannot suggest - for example, where I would like to fly. In Rio, for a carnival, for example, to Central Africa to nature reserves, to America to Indian recreations, a tour of the abandoned cities-powers of the Maya, although I think that you can search under your nose and be sure to find an entertaining travel option.
Also, you could lose the desire to travel with those with whom you are doing this, find a new, interesting company for you and maybe everything will change.
Just like every person, your priorities in life could change, before you were gravitated to travel, and now you like to "stay at home" =). I hope your desire just decided to relax, but it will definitely come back!!!
After all, people are created to travel, remember the nomadic tribes of our ancestors =) (and as always, sorry for the bad Russian)
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answered 14 years ago
Our grandmother does not swim, she leads a passive lifestyle and works. We do not consider Egypt, since in June they say it is already very hot, I think the baby will not be very good. elenako, can you really change the company and type of travel led tourism or something like that. We have a house on Lake Baikal, come and receive tourists from June to August, I can give you the address and phone number in Irkutsk.
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answered 14 years ago
vmary-irk, Yes, for older people it is dangerous to be in Egypt in the summer, and even Turkey in the middle of summer is very hot.
Take grandma to Montenegro! no visas, very clean sea, mountain air, she should like it. If you want the Black Sea then Bulgaria and it’s interesting and the sea is the same and native and not expensive =)
Take grandma to Montenegro! no visas, very clean sea, mountain air, she should like it. If you want the Black Sea then Bulgaria and it’s interesting and the sea is the same and native and not expensive =)
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answered 14 years ago
There is nothing interesting in Bulgaria, the sea is the same as ours, it is inexpensive only in apartments, a normal hotel costs, like in Turkey, only with worse service.
I am for Montenegro with both hands ... but not with a small child and a grandmother.
Turkey is good for such families because, having arrived at the hotel, you can generally disconnect from everyday life - they feed, water, clean, entertain, literally cowardly over children. And in the summer in Egypt, I would also be afraid.
I am for Montenegro with both hands ... but not with a small child and a grandmother.
Turkey is good for such families because, having arrived at the hotel, you can generally disconnect from everyday life - they feed, water, clean, entertain, literally cowardly over children. And in the summer in Egypt, I would also be afraid.
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answered 14 years ago
Thank you for your recommendations. I really liked about the desire that decided to take a break.
I wrote my problem from my grandmother’s point of view. I don’t want to go and that’s it. And the children begin to blackmail, set conditions, talk about the decision they have already made. But what about my decision, my position?
I wrote my problem from my grandmother’s point of view. I don’t want to go and that’s it. And the children begin to blackmail, set conditions, talk about the decision they have already made. But what about my decision, my position?
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answered 14 years ago
elenako, but you wrote that you don’t want to go anywhere at all. In this case, you can go without your grandmother or ask for her participation as a favor. The author of the topic has another problem - the grandmother does not want to go abroad, because she is afraid. My opinion is that if the grandmother, in principle, does not mind going, then SHE should not set conditions for exactly where the family is going. Many grandmothers (especially for some reason mothers-in-law sin this) consider themselves the head of the family with all the consequences ....
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answered 14 years ago
--- if the grandmother, in principle, does not mind going, ---
This is what I am trying to convey. If she doesn’t mind, then we don’t mind, but if she doesn’t want to, but is afraid to offend the children with her refusal? Is it worth insisting like that?
The desire of children is understandable, they want everyone to rest, especially mother (she is also a grandmother).
But this desire is not hers.
It’s fine if she wants to, but no one advises or wants bad things. Yes, and you shouldn’t be afraid of relaxing abroad.
And I wrote that I don’t want to go to Europe, but I don’t even mind going to Egypt. And now we were going in April, but most likely we will fly in May.
And I sincerely wish your mother to want to go with such beautiful children.
This is what I am trying to convey. If she doesn’t mind, then we don’t mind, but if she doesn’t want to, but is afraid to offend the children with her refusal? Is it worth insisting like that?
The desire of children is understandable, they want everyone to rest, especially mother (she is also a grandmother).
But this desire is not hers.
It’s fine if she wants to, but no one advises or wants bad things. Yes, and you shouldn’t be afraid of relaxing abroad.
And I wrote that I don’t want to go to Europe, but I don’t even mind going to Egypt. And now we were going in April, but most likely we will fly in May.
And I sincerely wish your mother to want to go with such beautiful children.
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answered 14 years ago
After the birth of my son, he is now 3 years and 9 months old, we are resting with our grandmother. Our grandmother has never rested at sea abroad. The answer to our request to go to Turkey to help with the child was as follows: I’m scared to fly somewhere, what kind of people you are, why you didn’t know where to take a small child, and why Crimea is bad. No positive reviews, pictures in catalogs and heart-to-heart conversations did not help. Grandmothers are afraid because they do not know what to expect from this trip, and it is very difficult for them to decide to find out at this age. And I decided that I needed to act decisively: I said that the tour had already been paid for her too, it was not for a stranger to pay for a ticket and take it with me to help. After that, the grandmother somehow calmed down a bit, that now she had to fight back, since everything had been decided and paid for. She finally calmed down in the hotel.
To say that our grandmother was delighted is to say nothing, when we left Turkey, she had tears in her eyes and she thanked us for a fairy tale that she might not have recognized. After Turkey, my grandmother went with us to Egypt with pleasure. So be persistent and be happy with everything.
To say that our grandmother was delighted is to say nothing, when we left Turkey, she had tears in her eyes and she thanked us for a fairy tale that she might not have recognized. After Turkey, my grandmother went with us to Egypt with pleasure. So be persistent and be happy with everything.
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answered 14 years ago
Show your grandmother this branch.
Push. We have tourists often travel with children and grandmothers for supervision. Very comfortably.
But there are also regular elderly tourists who fly on their own to rest. Normal practice. True, insurance on them is a little more expensive - by 4-5 dollars.
In the summer, of course, Turkey. In other seasons - Egypt.
Bulgaria, and even more so Anapa, is not a competitor.
Show photos of real tourists
http://www.turpravda.com/foto/country/115.html
Especially pictures of happy children, like
http://www.turpravda.com/foto/48960.html
Push. We have tourists often travel with children and grandmothers for supervision. Very comfortably.
But there are also regular elderly tourists who fly on their own to rest. Normal practice. True, insurance on them is a little more expensive - by 4-5 dollars.
In the summer, of course, Turkey. In other seasons - Egypt.
Bulgaria, and even more so Anapa, is not a competitor.
Show photos of real tourists
http://www.turpravda.com/foto/country/115.html
Especially pictures of happy children, like
http://www.turpravda.com/foto/48960.html
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answered 14 years ago
elenako, I'm sorry, but I did not understand at all what you wanted to say: ((What is the dispute about?
"And I sincerely wish your mother to want to go with such beautiful children."
So I wrote - the first time they persuaded, now for five years she wants herself, and she is waiting, and preparing, and of course, we are taking her. Both dad and husband’s parents, only they didn’t have to persuade anyone :)))
"And if she does not want to, but is afraid to offend the children with her refusal? Is it worth it to insist so?"
How can you tell she doesn't want to? I realized that my grandmother was lobbying Anapa :) Considering that in addition to her, according to the terms of the task, three more are going (maybe more, we don’t know), then Anapa is NOT in the interests of three. How to correct this situation?
"And I sincerely wish your mother to want to go with such beautiful children."
So I wrote - the first time they persuaded, now for five years she wants herself, and she is waiting, and preparing, and of course, we are taking her. Both dad and husband’s parents, only they didn’t have to persuade anyone :)))
"And if she does not want to, but is afraid to offend the children with her refusal? Is it worth it to insist so?"
How can you tell she doesn't want to? I realized that my grandmother was lobbying Anapa :) Considering that in addition to her, according to the terms of the task, three more are going (maybe more, we don’t know), then Anapa is NOT in the interests of three. How to correct this situation?
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answered 14 years ago
--"And I sincerely wish your mother to want to go with such beautiful children.-- not for Pachok (as far as I understand, you have no children yet, as well as grandchildren)
These words were written for vmary-irk. Last year I had the most beautiful trip with my father - at his request. A trip with my parents, and even on vacation - what could be better.
-Pachok, I realized that my grandmother does not lobby for Anapa either.
And this particular family will resolve the situation
who, having read all our opinions, will make the only correct conclusion for herself.
And I sincerely wish my grandmother that she really WANTED to go.
These words were written for vmary-irk. Last year I had the most beautiful trip with my father - at his request. A trip with my parents, and even on vacation - what could be better.
-Pachok, I realized that my grandmother does not lobby for Anapa either.
And this particular family will resolve the situation
who, having read all our opinions, will make the only correct conclusion for herself.
And I sincerely wish my grandmother that she really WANTED to go.
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answered 14 years ago
my mom is 55, my dad is older
I also had to persuade for more than one month
give different arguments, proving that "there"
it's not that scary, quite the contrary :)
I had to show pictures again.
supplying in parallel with captivating stories
based both on my personal experience and on the experience of friends and acquaintances
and this despite the fact that they are inveterate lovers of the Crimea
I also had to persuade for more than one month
give different arguments, proving that "there"
it's not that scary, quite the contrary :)
I had to show pictures again.
supplying in parallel with captivating stories
based both on my personal experience and on the experience of friends and acquaintances
and this despite the fact that they are inveterate lovers of the Crimea
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answered 14 years ago
oh, and most importantly, I didn’t write :))))))
so after long stories-persuasion
parents did fly to Turkey first
then six months later to Egypt - it dragged on
at what thoroughly so delayed
now it's a tradition
fly every six months - satisfied!
so after long stories-persuasion
parents did fly to Turkey first
then six months later to Egypt - it dragged on
at what thoroughly so delayed
now it's a tradition
fly every six months - satisfied!
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