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I will add that from the ECMO apparatus, the return to life is up to 1% with almost complete disability or a long recovery period (a person learns to swallow again, speak, walk, etc.), because they are connected to it after a ventilator (usually at least a week or more a person has been under a ventilator) + a week or more on ECMO the process of a successful return to a healthy life reduces to zero, but usually it’s just an illusion of salvation and pumping out money .... After 3 days on a ventilator, I came to my senses for more than a month i got a sore throat (the result of an inserted tube, it scratches my throat and when a hospital infection hits, a terrible sore throat develops from which I almost died in the same hospital), they fed me through a tube, because I could not swallow for a long time, speak, etc. ... and this 3 days ....... to sit on the bed, just sit down!!! I was able in a month ...... after I started to get up little by little, coordination was disturbed, my legs did not obey ... then I worked with a rehabilitologist. something like this
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answered 4 years ago
Olgaolga153, This is not about the well-being of the state, but about elementary survival. How many people can sit without work, respectively, without money. You need to eat for something, pay for utilities too (the state will not write off debts). Not everyone has stock. In Ukraine, all that the state has done is only abolished the payment for land for the month of March.
In general, the question may soon become: to die of hunger or to die from the coronavirus.
Well, I'm exaggerating, of course. But the gist is something like this.
In general, the question may soon become: to die of hunger or to die from the coronavirus.
Well, I'm exaggerating, of course. But the gist is something like this.
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answered 4 years ago
"in the USA today: almost 126 thousand sick; more than 52 thousand dead."
This is all understandable and sad, but in the quarantined UK and France, 19.5 and 22 thousand dead, quarantine did not help them stay alive. On a per 1,000 population basis, the death rates in France and the UK are twice as bad as in the US at the moment.
This is all understandable and sad, but in the quarantined UK and France, 19.5 and 22 thousand dead, quarantine did not help them stay alive. On a per 1,000 population basis, the death rates in France and the UK are twice as bad as in the US at the moment.
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answered 4 years ago
The UK introduced quarantine after "a fried rooster pecked for a causal place", that is, the first persons of the state fell ill - Prince Charles and Boris Johnson. Were it not for this circumstance, it is not known what status quo Britain had now.
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Quarantine should either be quarantine, or stop creating its appearance and let people decide for themselves whether to stay at home (if there is such an opportunity, or age or risk zone for diseases) or work. A healthy population will get sick faster and provide general immunity. Well, in a situation where our hospitals, even with a minimum load, are not able to treat normally and for free! (this is important, because without money we still don’t get treated) and doctors are also not able to protect themselves, they get sick in packs ... This is all in one place and does not solve this problem at all.
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It's all like that. But the first strikes with slogans "let work" have already started in the USA. Those. already some people are driven to despair, because everyone has loans, mortgages. It seems that no one is going to forgive debts.
Double edged stick
Double edged stick
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Because whether you are sick or not, it’s like a card will fall, and the mortgage is required to be paid now, the children ask for food at least 3 times a day ....
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answered 4 years ago
The quarantine realities of Kharkiv are as follows: those who work with a roof, many have gone into the shadows, those whose employers could not agree or do not see the point in this are sitting at home. And those who are supported by the state, but they are paid part of the RFP and they do not worry about anything. Whoever has nothing to eat went to the delivery industry that is now in demand (this is also a risk) ... I absolutely see no point in continuing the quarantine, since it essentially does not exist.
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answered 4 years ago
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We have the same way.
"A healthy population will get sick faster and provide general immunity"
But not quite healthy? To introduce a program of natural selection into society is somehow not humane. Young people are dying, too. I do not know how unhealthy the nephew of our forum member was, but I think that he did not plan to die at the age of 36. And probably would have lived for another ten years, if not for covid. ((What kind of general immunity is there.
We have the same way.
"A healthy population will get sick faster and provide general immunity"
But not quite healthy? To introduce a program of natural selection into society is somehow not humane. Young people are dying, too. I do not know how unhealthy the nephew of our forum member was, but I think that he did not plan to die at the age of 36. And probably would have lived for another ten years, if not for covid. ((What kind of general immunity is there.
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Olgaolga153, what's the difference, after which quarantine was introduced? It is important that quarantine does not remove the likelihood of getting sick / dying, but only slightly stretches the "pleasure" in time. Plus, no one takes into account the health consequences of sitting at home and reducing physical activity: from excess weight and osteochondrosis to neurology and exacerbation of cardiovascular diseases.
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Olgaolga153, quarantine does not ensure your survival even from covid, even from the flu, because all those who are at risk can just as well get sick with any other sore and get consequences of varying severity, including death. I, too, got under a ventilator after a simple operation that many people do every day, but there were complications that no one expected. It's all so unpredictable. Well, you don’t know with whom you were standing next to in transport and what the person standing next to was sick with, and suddenly another flurka will show you a focus of inflammation (tuberculosis will be predicted). Well, etc.
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I will add. A neighbor has a child who requires daily mandatory procedures (there are massages and injections and they connect to various devices, a lot of things, it’s impossible to provide this at home in full), for today all this has stopped. The child's condition began to deteriorate, as there is no very expensive and most important apparatus at home, and without it, all efforts come to naught. We thought to look for sponsors and buy, but alas, everything turned out to be very difficult there. And now the quarantine has endangered the life of this boy. I'm sure there are many. And what about this category, which has already been put under attack, are their lives at risk?
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answered 4 years ago
herd immunity is very important in the new coronovirus
In Kyiv, there is no such quarantine as in Moscow, you can safely go out all these days to take a walk, and if you are bored for large shopping centers, go to the Epicenter, Novaya Liniya shopping centers or to the edge of the Metro
If you have money, then going to a restaurant is not a problem, and 90% of salons work in a quiet
a close friend's younger brother died at the age of 24 from cancer, no one spared money for treatment, he, too, would live longer than many decades. He did not get sick with anything, he worked in the Ministry of Emergency Situations, 4 months passed from diagnosis to death. A classmate at the age of 18 had a frozen pregnancy. Unfortunately, the most dear to us people die at different ages from different diseases.
I guess you Olgaolga153 and everyone else faced a sad experience
We each have our own pain.
In Kyiv, there is no such quarantine as in Moscow, you can safely go out all these days to take a walk, and if you are bored for large shopping centers, go to the Epicenter, Novaya Liniya shopping centers or to the edge of the Metro
If you have money, then going to a restaurant is not a problem, and 90% of salons work in a quiet
a close friend's younger brother died at the age of 24 from cancer, no one spared money for treatment, he, too, would live longer than many decades. He did not get sick with anything, he worked in the Ministry of Emergency Situations, 4 months passed from diagnosis to death. A classmate at the age of 18 had a frozen pregnancy. Unfortunately, the most dear to us people die at different ages from different diseases.
I guess you Olgaolga153 and everyone else faced a sad experience
We each have our own pain.
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answered 4 years ago
If now a person with a severe stroke or heart attack needs a ventilator, this person will not be connected
If after the operation there is a complication or an emergency operation, then what about the lack of ventilation, if this is only for patients with covid-19
about planned operations were generally postponed for an unknown period, and a planned operation is needed so that later this operation does not become an emergency
If after the operation there is a complication or an emergency operation, then what about the lack of ventilation, if this is only for patients with covid-19
about planned operations were generally postponed for an unknown period, and a planned operation is needed so that later this operation does not become an emergency
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answered 4 years ago
To be honest, my nail salon also works quietly, and I have to go to the hairdresser at home. The manicurist was talking about her friend, she has cancer, she is undergoing a course of chemistry. The oncology center to which she is attached was closed for quarantine. And that's it. And no alternatives were offered, survive as you wish.
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Under the motto of saving from covid, those who already need and continue to need medical care have been put under attack, and these people are also at risk, but they have the risk of dying from "their sore" in the first place, because in the current situation, doctors have the right to score on them a sore ... if there is no money, then the patient has every chance of dying. We have been in quarantine for 1.5 months already, the super expected jump has not happened (let's realistically estimate that there are 45 million people 7000 infected in all of Ukraine, and this is after the return of migrants and planes from the centers of infection, etc.). I just returned from a trip to the store - street stalls are open, they ride children on a pony in the park (for money, such a service), they ride children on a swing, there are enough people ... but everyone is wearing masks, keep their distance. In ATB, the crowd is unreal ...
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This is how it was in Italy. Everyone spit on warnings and laughed at especially suspicious individuals until people began to end up in batches in hospitals, and doctors did not have to make a choice: who to save and who to just let die of suffocation. ((
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Olgaolga153, if we had like in Italy, then we would already have packs of people in hospitals. But, fortunately, we are not.
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And can someone clearly explain what is the special drama of the course of the virus in Italy? Well, apart from emotional injections from the media and social networks?
The total number of infected and deaths from coronavirus per 1000 population is lower than in Spain. Distribution dynamics is about the same. There was no hysteria about Spain.
Is the healthcare system much worse in Italy? Are there fewer clinics? Doctors? Or what?
The total number of infected and deaths from coronavirus per 1000 population is lower than in Spain. Distribution dynamics is about the same. There was no hysteria about Spain.
Is the healthcare system much worse in Italy? Are there fewer clinics? Doctors? Or what?
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"Under the motto of saving from covid, those who already need and continue to need medical help have been put under attack"...
"If now a person with a severe stroke or heart attack needs a ventilator, this person will not be connected" ...
Why are you so worried about people whom you yourself propose to exterminate by lifting quarantine to develop general immunity? Or do you not understand that it is these patients who will be under attack in the first place? It's called natural selection.
So imagine, if you let everything take its course, or, as you suggest, to develop general immunity, then how many more hospitals will be converted to the "corona"? We ourselves are increasing the number of infected by non-compliance with the norms of behavior during a pandemic. And most importantly, anyone can get covid, not everyone will have a chance to survive. For example, with certain types of oncology, one can be in long-term remission. People live with numerous chronic or genetic diseases. But they are unlikely to survive covid if infected.
"If now a person with a severe stroke or heart attack needs a ventilator, this person will not be connected" ...
Why are you so worried about people whom you yourself propose to exterminate by lifting quarantine to develop general immunity? Or do you not understand that it is these patients who will be under attack in the first place? It's called natural selection.
So imagine, if you let everything take its course, or, as you suggest, to develop general immunity, then how many more hospitals will be converted to the "corona"? We ourselves are increasing the number of infected by non-compliance with the norms of behavior during a pandemic. And most importantly, anyone can get covid, not everyone will have a chance to survive. For example, with certain types of oncology, one can be in long-term remission. People live with numerous chronic or genetic diseases. But they are unlikely to survive covid if infected.
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The total number of infected and deaths from coronavirus per 1000 population is lower than in Spain.
The total number of cases in Spain is higher than in Italy, but the mortality among cases in Italy is higher.
The total number of infected and deaths from coronavirus per 1000 population is lower than in Spain.
The total number of cases in Spain is higher than in Italy, but the mortality among cases in Italy is higher.
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Any person can get sick with any disease, but not everyone will have a chance to survive this applies not only to covid 19, but to all diseases
Any disease can give complications, lead to death.
An inconspicuous slight scratch on the body that you may not notice at all can lead to sepsis and death.
Any disease can give complications, lead to death.
An inconspicuous slight scratch on the body that you may not notice at all can lead to sepsis and death.
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I wrote about mortality per 1000 population.
If you want to talk about the mortality rate among the sick, then Belgium is the leader here, they also endure the outbreak without hysteria in the media. Therefore, I sincerely do not understand why the whole of Europe was crying about Italy, and no one filmed heartbreaking reports about Spain and Belgium.
If you want to talk about the mortality rate among the sick, then Belgium is the leader here, they also endure the outbreak without hysteria in the media. Therefore, I sincerely do not understand why the whole of Europe was crying about Italy, and no one filmed heartbreaking reports about Spain and Belgium.
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And now all planned surgical operations have been left to chance, which will later lead to serious complications and deaths, vaccination against measles and diphtheria has been left to chance. And there is a high probability of epidemics of measles and poliomyelitis. About the fact that tuberculosis has raised its head in our country, they are silent, only covid 19
In any case, now we are choosing who will live and die, special increased attention and all funds are rushed to the treatment of salvation from covid 19, but they forgot about all other diseases, the main thing is that there are fewer deaths from the coronavirus, and let other diseases die
In any case, now we are choosing who will live and die, special increased attention and all funds are rushed to the treatment of salvation from covid 19, but they forgot about all other diseases, the main thing is that there are fewer deaths from the coronavirus, and let other diseases die
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Girls, do you hear yourself? Who in their right mind and sober memory will begin to wholesale close hospitals for coronovirus? Do you still not understand how serious it is? In our country, the plague of the 20th century was called cancer, and AIDS, now they have begun to remember about bird and swine flu. Only here the world quarantines have never been announced, they have not canceled planned operations. (She herself recently signed a petition against the re-profiling under the crown of the oncological center named after Petrov in St. Petersburg). In Belgorod, the health center was also closed after 18 patients and 10 doctors acquired this infection from one of the patients. All cancer patients are transferred to Kursk. Everything that is happening now is akin to the apocalypse. And if quarantine is also lifted, the number of patients will begin to increase exponentially. Where to put them? Leaving people to die on the street? Doctors become infected, die, are fired, unable to withstand the load. And we are sitting in iPhones and arguing that we need to remove the quarantine, let everyone get sick and gain immunity.
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Get hurt. But nothing that 30% get sick again? And it is still not known what will happen to the lungs, and indeed to the whole body of those who had mild covid. What will happen to them in a year, three, ten? The disease is not well understood.
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Olgaolga153, Everyone is hysterical in their own way. Good luck in your hard work. You need to really look at things and be aware that you can die out of the blue from anything, it’s just that covid is in the top right now.
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about vaccination: the daughter-in-law literally two weeks ago did the youngest vaccinations, no one stopped anything. another question is that she herself follows the schedule and does not wait until all the phones from the clinic call her
about vaccination: the daughter-in-law literally two weeks ago did the youngest vaccinations, no one stopped anything. another question is that she herself follows the schedule and does not wait until all the phones from the clinic call her
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===you can die out of the blue from anything===
... but I want to live ... like each of us (c)
The well-fed, of course, does not understand the hungry. but I'm in quarantine. of course, some of it is not like that in our countries, but what can you do ...
... but I want to live ... like each of us (c)
The well-fed, of course, does not understand the hungry. but I'm in quarantine. of course, some of it is not like that in our countries, but what can you do ...
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YaSlavnaYa, that's exactly what we have that is happening quarantine is difficult to call. Well, if so, then it makes no sense to create the appearance of it. Well, since there was no global outbreak of covid under such a quarantine, then... Again, it is necessary to limit those who are at risk, and not healthy ones. But this is my opinion, which was formed after 1.5 months of all that is happening.
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