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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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And those who can - definitely not to the "crammed beaches of the Odessa and Nikolaev regions" ...
As for the dead remains of the tourist industry, it won’t hurt many to finally take care of the cleanliness and biological safety of the premises, kitchen and territory. And whoever does not learn, relatively speaking, to wash their hands - there they are dear.
As for the dead remains of the tourist industry, it won’t hurt many to finally take care of the cleanliness and biological safety of the premises, kitchen and territory. And whoever does not learn, relatively speaking, to wash their hands - there they are dear.
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answered 4 years ago
Apyatka, here quite recently, on a nearby branch, they wrote about a vacation with a tent. )))
It is quite possible that many of those who were moderately battered by the coronavirus are just planning to rush to Spartan conditions to our sea. These can be campsites, inexpensive recreation centers, and expensive boarding houses. But it seems that they are even trying to deprive people of this rest.
Although, I am more and more convinced that people will take themselves out of quarantine, ignoring the so-called "power". ;)
It is quite possible that many of those who were moderately battered by the coronavirus are just planning to rush to Spartan conditions to our sea. These can be campsites, inexpensive recreation centers, and expensive boarding houses. But it seems that they are even trying to deprive people of this rest.
Although, I am more and more convinced that people will take themselves out of quarantine, ignoring the so-called "power". ;)
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answered 4 years ago
and who has a site with statistics in percentage terms?
they say that the states come first - but in the states and the people - oh, mom! India is somewhere far below - is anyone testing them?
they say that the states come first - but in the states and the people - oh, mom! India is somewhere far below - is anyone testing them?
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I look at https://coronavirus-monitor.ru/
They finally added the column "per million people of the population", it became a little clearer. Although if there is no single approach to accounting for the sick and the dead, even this statistics is not very clear.
They finally added the column "per million people of the population", it became a little clearer. Although if there is no single approach to accounting for the sick and the dead, even this statistics is not very clear.
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It’s just that India didn’t get involved so zealously in the Coronavirus project. And everyone who is in the table above joined with zeal.
With the advent of the coronavirus, nowhere, in any (!) country in the world, did the total mortality exceed the average.
Under this project "Coronavirus" now, somewhere far away, smart, harsh guys are buying up depreciated money. And these are not shops and hairdressers, but huge airlines, systemic banks and entire sectors of the economy.
And for us, frightened suckers - terrible pictures from TV and the Internet about mountains of corpses, mobile crematoria and mass graves.
The redistribution of property and world influence will end - everyone will forget about this "terrible virus" at the same time.
And yet - a trial balloon in the restriction of freedoms.
They put on masks - well, so be it. They locked us up in stuffy apartments - up there you know better what to do with us, because they only want the best for us.
Why so many primitive people, I'm just despondent, in shock, well, after all, not all ex-IS members, there are still people with a normal education, and there are still a lot of us ..
With the advent of the coronavirus, nowhere, in any (!) country in the world, did the total mortality exceed the average.
Under this project "Coronavirus" now, somewhere far away, smart, harsh guys are buying up depreciated money. And these are not shops and hairdressers, but huge airlines, systemic banks and entire sectors of the economy.
And for us, frightened suckers - terrible pictures from TV and the Internet about mountains of corpses, mobile crematoria and mass graves.
The redistribution of property and world influence will end - everyone will forget about this "terrible virus" at the same time.
And yet - a trial balloon in the restriction of freedoms.
They put on masks - well, so be it. They locked us up in stuffy apartments - up there you know better what to do with us, because they only want the best for us.
Why so many primitive people, I'm just despondent, in shock, well, after all, not all ex-IS members, there are still people with a normal education, and there are still a lot of us ..
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answered 4 years ago
I'm looking here. https://news.google.com/covid19/map?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en
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Oh, God, how tired of the preachers.
Who is the smartest - volunteers in the infectious diseases clinic and there pushes his theories to exhausted doctors and dying patients. And here the conspiracy theories are already sick of reading.
As soon as a relative or acquaintance gets to the hospital, theories immediately change to "we are all destroyed"
Really sick already.
Who is the smartest - volunteers in the infectious diseases clinic and there pushes his theories to exhausted doctors and dying patients. And here the conspiracy theories are already sick of reading.
As soon as a relative or acquaintance gets to the hospital, theories immediately change to "we are all destroyed"
Really sick already.
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Apyatka, they can!
how many of our people are moaning, "nema pennies!", but I have never seen an empty plane ...
how many of our people are moaning, "nema pennies!", but I have never seen an empty plane ...
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answered 4 years ago
sigur62,
about us scared suckers: even if I wasn't scared, I couldn't afford to buy a bank or an airline. and it’s not yet a fact that the change of owner will be worse.
about primitivism: well, if I don’t lock myself up in the apartment, if I go out into the street without a mask, my wallet will lose weight by the amount of the fine. Do you offer #counterwind?
about us scared suckers: even if I wasn't scared, I couldn't afford to buy a bank or an airline. and it’s not yet a fact that the change of owner will be worse.
about primitivism: well, if I don’t lock myself up in the apartment, if I go out into the street without a mask, my wallet will lose weight by the amount of the fine. Do you offer #counterwind?
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answered 4 years ago
YaSlavnaYa, well, the epidemic is not over yet. Many really will not be able to rest.
Some will not have money for vacations. Some will not have time, they will have to put in a lot of effort to restore - reanimate the business. Many are simply afraid to go somewhere this year. And someone will go much further than local resorts.
Some will not have money for vacations. Some will not have time, they will have to put in a lot of effort to restore - reanimate the business. Many are simply afraid to go somewhere this year. And someone will go much further than local resorts.
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By the way, about the lack of money: I remember we went to our relatives in post-war Moldova. Well, I think I’ll stock up there, rest from the heart - I suppose everything is cheap, the people don’t have money ...
cheers! they left there as much as they did not leave even once in Egypt and Turkey. you can’t find a place on the terraces in the evenings - everything in taverns is like the last time, in the markets everything is exorbitantly expensive, as if they want to improve the entire budget of the country with one pair of trousers ...
in short, we don't go to Moldova anymore)))
cheers! they left there as much as they did not leave even once in Egypt and Turkey. you can’t find a place on the terraces in the evenings - everything in taverns is like the last time, in the markets everything is exorbitantly expensive, as if they want to improve the entire budget of the country with one pair of trousers ...
in short, we don't go to Moldova anymore)))
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Apyatka, Tanya, I agree! but - partially. that's just for those 50% of the places in the hotels planned and there will be the required number of people who want and have the opportunity.
and so - as in that joke "I looked at the prices, where I can relax - and decided that I was not tired this year." we have been resting for two months already - when will we have time to get tired ?! )))
and so - as in that joke "I looked at the prices, where I can relax - and decided that I was not tired this year." we have been resting for two months already - when will we have time to get tired ?! )))
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answered 4 years ago
Apyatka, you, as a person related to medicine, are at least a little aware of how many people die in the world from cancer per year or from complications from the same flu? Or in the world only corona is mega deadly and there is no vaccine? why don't people die anymore?
and doctors, before receiving medical education, are not aware of epidemics, pandemics, contagiousness and HP in our country? Somehow, few people worried about tube dispensaries and doctors working in them before, and even now they don’t really care (although Ukraine is ahead of Europe in terms of incidence of tuberculosis and HIV), have you ever been to oncology centers ?, where a long time ago there was a shortage of beds. So why, before that, there were no dances of doctors in all the news about the lack of medicines for cancer patients, about the lack of funds, etc.? Or cancer, HIV and tuberculosis are so garbage and there are already vaccines for everything. By the way, in Ukraine the epidemic of tuberculosis and HIV is also far from over.
and doctors, before receiving medical education, are not aware of epidemics, pandemics, contagiousness and HP in our country? Somehow, few people worried about tube dispensaries and doctors working in them before, and even now they don’t really care (although Ukraine is ahead of Europe in terms of incidence of tuberculosis and HIV), have you ever been to oncology centers ?, where a long time ago there was a shortage of beds. So why, before that, there were no dances of doctors in all the news about the lack of medicines for cancer patients, about the lack of funds, etc.? Or cancer, HIV and tuberculosis are so garbage and there are already vaccines for everything. By the way, in Ukraine the epidemic of tuberculosis and HIV is also far from over.
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answered 4 years ago
Dima_80_:
is there anything known about whether 14 days of self-isolation will be required after returning from a holiday from these countries?
is there anything known about whether 14 days of self-isolation will be required after returning from a holiday from these countries?
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Well, the idea that the death rate does not exceed previous years is very popular, but not true. Mortality is lower in countries that have not been late to introduce a serious quarantine, at the expense of even a decrease in road accidents and seasonal flu. In the rest, the mortality rate is higher and decently. I'll look for charts now, I was interested about a week ago.
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All this has been said a hundred times - negotiated. Other illnesses may be more dangerous, but they are less contagious.
And about the doctors, well, they would be ashamed. While you talk about everything at once, and shine with erudition and knowledge of statistics, they get infected and die there. At the same time, could anyone even imagine that they would have to work in such conditions? In these floating suits, in masks that make it impossible to breathe. I don't even want to talk about it.
In general, I have run out of loyalty to those who continue to compare horseradish with a finger. Don't contact me. Ask someone else.
All this has been said a hundred times - negotiated. Other illnesses may be more dangerous, but they are less contagious.
And about the doctors, well, they would be ashamed. While you talk about everything at once, and shine with erudition and knowledge of statistics, they get infected and die there. At the same time, could anyone even imagine that they would have to work in such conditions? In these floating suits, in masks that make it impossible to breathe. I don't even want to talk about it.
In general, I have run out of loyalty to those who continue to compare horseradish with a finger. Don't contact me. Ask someone else.
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And there have always been protests against quarantines, during all epidemics - plague, cholera, Spanish flu. But in the end, exactly where the quarantine was, many times fewer people were infected and died. Now a lot of literature has surfaced about past epilemy, it is interesting to read.
And, of course, there will be a redistribution, but this does not mean that there is no virus or that it is not dangerous. As my favorite proverb goes, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're not being followed.
And, of course, there will be a redistribution, but this does not mean that there is no virus or that it is not dangerous. As my favorite proverb goes, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're not being followed.
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Here is the most up-to-date information https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Again.
People get sick and die not only from the coronavirus, but all (all!) news from all the media will hysteria only about this virus.
In order to please this trend, the treatment of other diseases was completely abandoned, and the overall mortality remained the same as in previous years precisely because of the increase in deaths for other reasons, not from the virus.
How many people did not wait for heart operations due to stupid "re-profiling" of hospitals under the crown ...
And the joints? The Vreden Institute was closed, and already scheduled surgeries were cancelled! And I know how painful it is, how unbearable it is to live when there is practically no joint (I myself replaced a hip joint a year ago and walk happily with a titanium one)))
It's collective madness with this coronavirus that's happening everywhere right now.
And yes, I’ll put on a mask to the store, but I won’t go in a muzzle along the deserted shore of the bay or through a pine forest and breathe my snot, and not healing phytoncides.
People get sick and die not only from the coronavirus, but all (all!) news from all the media will hysteria only about this virus.
In order to please this trend, the treatment of other diseases was completely abandoned, and the overall mortality remained the same as in previous years precisely because of the increase in deaths for other reasons, not from the virus.
How many people did not wait for heart operations due to stupid "re-profiling" of hospitals under the crown ...
And the joints? The Vreden Institute was closed, and already scheduled surgeries were cancelled! And I know how painful it is, how unbearable it is to live when there is practically no joint (I myself replaced a hip joint a year ago and walk happily with a titanium one)))
It's collective madness with this coronavirus that's happening everywhere right now.
And yes, I’ll put on a mask to the store, but I won’t go in a muzzle along the deserted shore of the bay or through a pine forest and breathe my snot, and not healing phytoncides.
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answered 4 years ago
sigur62,
over the past month we have visited 4 oncology centers - everything works in the usual quarantine mode - but it works! people are being treated, operations are being done, chemotherapy and immunotherapy are dripping.
if anything, I'm talking about Russia now. if somewhere there are kinks in the field, this does not mean that the madhouse is everywhere. that means you have a problem somewhere...
over the past month we have visited 4 oncology centers - everything works in the usual quarantine mode - but it works! people are being treated, operations are being done, chemotherapy and immunotherapy are dripping.
if anything, I'm talking about Russia now. if somewhere there are kinks in the field, this does not mean that the madhouse is everywhere. that means you have a problem somewhere...
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answered 4 years ago
Planned surgical operations were allowed to be performed only from May 5, including operations related to oncological diseases. Urgent ones were made naturally and during quarantine. In Kyiv and throughout Ukraine, they did not do planned joint replacements in the same way. In the same way with oncological diseases and benign tumors, planned ones were not done, urgent ones were done (or planned ones were made urgent for money)
The website of Statistics of Ukraine has statistics on the number of deaths in January-February 2020 - 100738 people
Cardiovascular 68548, Oncological diseases 13451, tuberculosis 581, HIV 576, External causes (accidents, accidents ..) - 4843
The website of Statistics of Ukraine has statistics on the number of deaths in January-February 2020 - 100738 people
Cardiovascular 68548, Oncological diseases 13451, tuberculosis 581, HIV 576, External causes (accidents, accidents ..) - 4843
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“When at one time we closed parks, sprayed roads, it was not so much a matter of influencing the epidemic process as it was a matter of psychological process. Closing parks - there is no feeling that everything is safe. People were psychologically preparing for the fact that quarantine” - the words our chief sanitary doctor of Ukraine
This means that it was all a manipulation of consciousness and the introduction of the population into depression and fear, this is the paranoia of all government officials or a corruption intent to receive super profits and bonuses from this quarantine.
This means that it was all a manipulation of consciousness and the introduction of the population into depression and fear, this is the paranoia of all government officials or a corruption intent to receive super profits and bonuses from this quarantine.
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Vika284, it's pointless to prove something .. it's such a trifle ...
the main thing is the worst coronavirus from which 425 people died in Ukraine.
The quarantine has been extended, but everything seems to be working. The metro does not work, but public transport is clogged.
Even the "war" which was also manipulated faded into the background. After all, people without exception become infected and die from an “incurable” virus, because more than 85% of those who have recovered are not significant.
the main thing is the worst coronavirus from which 425 people died in Ukraine.
The quarantine has been extended, but everything seems to be working. The metro does not work, but public transport is clogged.
Even the "war" which was also manipulated faded into the background. After all, people without exception become infected and die from an “incurable” virus, because more than 85% of those who have recovered are not significant.
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Here, I found that chart on excess mortality. There are no figures "not exceeding the average mortality" and not even close. And a direct dependence on quarantine measures by country.
https://www.ft.com/content/6bd88b7d-3386-4543-b2e9-0d5c6fac846c
It is a pity that our sanitary doctor blabbed. Next time, people will not believe in the seriousness of the situation and they will still have to beat with sticks, as in India :)
Z.Y. Today I received a wonderful message from former colleagues about the Bill Gates conspiracy, chipping through vaccines and more. And smart people were once ... I advised them to stock up on tinfoil hats.
https://www.ft.com/content/6bd88b7d-3386-4543-b2e9-0d5c6fac846c
It is a pity that our sanitary doctor blabbed. Next time, people will not believe in the seriousness of the situation and they will still have to beat with sticks, as in India :)
Z.Y. Today I received a wonderful message from former colleagues about the Bill Gates conspiracy, chipping through vaccines and more. And smart people were once ... I advised them to stock up on tinfoil hats.
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answered 4 years ago
You will never please people) Quarantine is bad. 400 people died - not many. If there were no quarantine and 40 thousand died, it would be just right.
I'm thinking - Italians, Spaniards and Americans should be happy? They have a good mortality, not what we have.
As for the conspiracy - if the conspiracy is visible to the townsfolk, then this is not a conspiracy, this is paranoia. The real conspiracy and specialists will not decipher. But, of course, among us there are very smart, insightful people who crack any conspiracy like nuts. I'm trying to remember if these people were going to the food riots?
I'm thinking - Italians, Spaniards and Americans should be happy? They have a good mortality, not what we have.
As for the conspiracy - if the conspiracy is visible to the townsfolk, then this is not a conspiracy, this is paranoia. The real conspiracy and specialists will not decipher. But, of course, among us there are very smart, insightful people who crack any conspiracy like nuts. I'm trying to remember if these people were going to the food riots?
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What a one-sided way of thinking you have, before that no one defended doctors in case of other threats, but now, where to run and what to do. They do their job, before entering the university, where one of the biggest competitions, it was necessary to understand what a DOCTOR and the Hippocratic oath are. Everyone knew what conditions and medical facilities we had.
And what has little to do with it, satisfied or not.
in the States, the population is slightly larger, and social protection is different and there is no mask regime, because it is useless.
In Italy and Spain, if quarantine is quarantine. And not like ours, some were closed and others have super profits. Some lose crops, while others trade in imports.
And what has little to do with it, satisfied or not.
in the States, the population is slightly larger, and social protection is different and there is no mask regime, because it is useless.
In Italy and Spain, if quarantine is quarantine. And not like ours, some were closed and others have super profits. Some lose crops, while others trade in imports.
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What kind of quarantine in Ukraine are we talking about, probably about that "manipulative" quarantine from paranoid kleptomaniacs. And who appointed the chief sanitary doctor, who in 2014 first liquidated the SES, and was also involved in the program for closing tuberculosis hospitals.
This thread has already mentioned the working shopping centers Epicenters and Novaya Liniya, almost 100% attendance at work of all government officials due to additional financial assistance for work in "quarantine", working restaurants / nightclubs for paranoid kleptomaniacs.
On Monday, Klitschko shouted that the metro would not open before July and would extend the quarantine in Kyiv, but today, May 25, it is necessary to open it - what happened? I suppose some pleasant bonuses were brought by the owners of the shopping center + shopping center and carriers
This thread has already mentioned the working shopping centers Epicenters and Novaya Liniya, almost 100% attendance at work of all government officials due to additional financial assistance for work in "quarantine", working restaurants / nightclubs for paranoid kleptomaniacs.
On Monday, Klitschko shouted that the metro would not open before July and would extend the quarantine in Kyiv, but today, May 25, it is necessary to open it - what happened? I suppose some pleasant bonuses were brought by the owners of the shopping center + shopping center and carriers
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answered 4 years ago
"Uselessness" of the mask mode:
https://medium.com/hyperbolea/masks-covid-2ce7166ca256
https://medium.com/hyperbolea/masks-covid-2ce7166ca256
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