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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар zolyshka111
Well, they cursed domestic holidays, that poor processing, and so on. I want to talk about antiseptics. The bulk of that burda, which is sold in huge quantities, does not disinfect anything, since it is made of no one knows what. If we take it seriously, then only alcohol over 75% kills germs and viruses, but it is clear that not a single shopping center, store, gas station, etc. uses it, just as it is not used either in our hotels or in Egyptian ones for sure. But this is not the most important thing, the most important thing is the human factor! The whole trouble is that the quality of sanitation and the action of the antiseptic "by eye" cannot be checked in any way! Clean does not mean sterile. Or do you think that some Mahmoud, who will scrub the hotel all day, really washes it with an antiseptic with a high alcohol content, and not ordinary water?)))
At any resort in the world, no one will give you a 100% guarantee that a real sanitation was carried out there.
аватар Lilu..10
zolyshka111, the lazy human factor also works for us
аватар dusik1981
there any disease, no matter what the flu or lues is, everything is considered the same. And to consider that would have a more realistic picture. But there is no threshold because there is no real 10% of the sick critical mass, now there are 320 thousand sick or who have had a mild form of the disease. Problems will start later after 600 thousand, because our hospitals can no longer miss according to the calculated data, and if we take into account the problems, then 520-540 thousand is a problem, but I think this is unlikely to happen. For the country needs to live, again, I’ll say cynically, but what are 150 thousand deaths that do not provide for the country, if quarantine is extended, where to get money for pensions and salaries for state employees, well, everything there stretches based on one another. So if there is mortality, then there will be no greater first peak, in fact, we pass.
аватар dusik1981
Alcohol above 75 degrees does not kill, it tans, the most optimal composition is 72.5-75 mg of denatured ethanol. per 100 g of solution. Read dezdelo and at least microbiology with epidemiology.
аватар zolyshka111
Lilu..10, laziness and indifference, and most importantly, impunity...
аватар dusik1981
And the antiseptic is intended for treating the skin and not for surfaces, a disinfectant is used for surfaces.
аватар Lilu..10
And, often, only hotels follow the cleaning a little. Large. Where is the staff. And in Europe there are a lot of private hotels and in them, yes, the human factor plays a big role. We, here in September 19th, were in the north of Spain - Viviero is such a town. It was very expensive, one night 310 euros, but the bed was not changed. Very expensive apartments, but they fell for such a trifle, received a negative review from us and a refund of the entire amount, but this is the merit of Booking
аватар zolyshka111
dusik1981, so I wrote about antiseptics. Well, from disinfectants - bleach is our everything)))
Didn't you understand the essence of my message?
аватар zolyshka111
dusik1981, and what should I read epidemiology and microbiology, I studied it at a medical school. It's been a long time, but what I remember is enough for my life.
аватар Lilu..10
dusik1981, now I partly agree with you, but there are still disagreements
аватар dusik1981
zolyshka111 "only alcohol kills germs and viruses over 75%" it doesn't kill, it tans, it just forms a shell and the virus is waiting for the right moment alcohol content, and not ordinary water? surfaces are not washed with an antiseptic, but the hands of health workers or the operating room. and objects are washed with a disinfectant, and so on, believe me, I used bleach for the last time 20 years ago, then there was deactin, chlorantoin blanidas and other chlorine containing but there are based on surfactants, HOURS, as well as combined ones, you need to look at what to use and in what environment.
аватар dusik1981
zolyshka111 I also didn’t study these subjects yesterday, but this is my specialization, so to speak, my bread, not for nothing at one time I was included in order No. 1 for healthcare facilities.
аватар zolyshka111
dusik1981, let's record - five automatic! The fact that you do not use bleach in no way detracts from its properties.
I am not a doctor and so meticulously did not know about the effect of alcohol on microorganisms and viruses, but thanks to you I will remove the gaps in my knowledge. But even if alcohol does not exactly kill, then the fact that we sell burda, and not antiseptics, cannot be disputed in any way.
аватар zolyshka111
dusik1981, and you are a doctor in what area?
аватар dusik1981
I am a preventive doctor, I have the same industry as Mr. Lyashko))
аватар Lilu..10
dusik1981, Today - it's better not to brag about it. (I mean Lyashko). After explaining why the president drank coffee in a coffee shop Inside, and even without a mask, there is no more trust in this person, even in akin to professions
аватар Apyatka
Well, how would the president drink coffee in a mask ??))
аватар Lilu..10
Apyatka, Yeah, and indoors, everyone is not allowed until June 5, and Lyashko got out - it was a rehearsal of how people will feel on June 5——- well, not garbage (sorry for my French)
аватар dusik1981
Who boasts, I just said that I have the same specialization as Mr. Lyashko, and then the brackets that denote a smile.
And what did he explain in politics and he is a lightning rod, people have chosen new faces and the principle "the tsar is good, the boyars are bad" is now held in high esteem, and so he is the most competent of that rabble, or do you have confidence in the minister who, apart from an internship, was not medicine, and he rules the industry. And so what, after all, we have a young Yanyk at the head of the state. But that is the topic of another forum.
аватар zolyshka111
dusik1981, I wanted to ask you how to ask a doctor, I have thoughts on this, but I want to know from you. A person who has been asymptomatically ill, how long does immunity form in him? If he falls ill after some time again, will his illness again be asymptomatic, in a mild form, or vice versa, in a severe one?
аватар dusik1981
zolyshka111 "Is there life on Mars, is there life on Mars, this is unknown to science" (c) we will find out more precisely who and how will get sick in the fall with the second wave, which it will also be seen then. According to the available data, we can talk about unstable immunity, as with major viral diseases, the vaccine is also not a panacea, because viruses are constantly mutating. What we have now, those who have been ill, children in the middle form, have re-exposed the disease, in Ukraine, I know of only one such case again. In Europe, a lot, and alas, the virus for children has not yet shown for the better when repeated. And how the second wave will show, it is the second and not just that we have a plateau now.
аватар veritasana
it’s clear that any trip somewhere turns into “go through 9 circles of hell treating yourself and around with an antiseptic and disinfectant solution” .. kill yourself with a broom ... I’m not going anywhere, I’ll watch ....
аватар mishatour
For general information. On 04/11/20 I submitted an application to cancel the flight (on my own initiative) Tel Aviv - Minsk. Yesterday I received the full amount of money from Belavio (without a fine). As usual, poverty and decency do not "go hand in hand"))
Tickets Tel Aviv - Toronto .... and stuck in the offices of El Al (Israel)
аватар camomille
For general information. TAP Portugal - The flight was canceled in April. The application for annulment was submitted in early May. A month has passed - there is no talk of a return of real money at all. Only voucher. But, these **** write out a voucher that can be used to pay off when buying new tickets for more than a month. When to expect this voucher is unknown. They say: show understanding, we have a lot of returns. It seems that they write out these vouchers manually. No words, just expressions...
аватар Apyatka
❗️Sri Lanka is ready to receive travelers from all over the world in accordance with the safety rules and precautions.
Who can visit?
All nationalities and all types of travelers, be they groups, families, individuals.
Which airports will be open?
Colombo International Airport (BIA) and Airport and Hambantota (MRIA) will operate for tourists arriving from August 1, 2020
What are the visa procedures?
• All travelers will need a valid visa (ETA) which is valid for 30 days and can be extended up to 6 months after arrival.
• An extended stay holiday is currently under consideration, which will allow the tourist to obtain a five-year multiple-entry visa with a maximum stay of 6 months for only US$100
Information required to apply for a visa:
• Booking details at a certified property
• Route around Sri Lanka
• Return ticket
• Medical insurance
аватар Apyatka
Where can I stay and is there a minimum stay?
• Requires a minimum of 5 nights stay in Sri Lanka.
• An independent professional audit will be carried out to certify accommodation providers, which will be listed on the website of the Sri Lanka Department of Tourism. To apply for a visa, details of bookings made with certified accommodation providers are required.
PCR testing before sending for Covid-19
• A negative PCR test is required prior to boarding the flight and upon arrival in Sri Lanka. The test must be performed no more than 72 hours prior to boarding.
Upon arrival in Sri Lanka
The airport will implement strict sanitary measures for all areas and staff.
• There is no quarantine upon arrival if symptoms are not observed.
• PCR test will be performed free of charge upon arrival at the airport.
• It currently takes 24 hours to receive test results. We are making changes to have results within 4-6 hours by August. In case you need to wait 24 hours for
аватар Apyatka
In case it is necessary to wait 24 hours for the test results. You will be able to choose a hotel for the night in one of the certified 4- or 5-star hotels in Colombo or Negombo until the results of the test are received.
• Further testing will be conducted 4-5 days after arrival by the mobile unit in coordination with your certified property.
• Vacationers over 10 days will be required to take a third test during their stay. While this may be inconvenient, it's important to protect everyone and give yourself peace of mind.
• In the event of a positive PCR result, quarantine at the designated hotel or hospitalization will be carried out as appropriate. If symptoms are detected, quarantine is usually 14 to 21 days
Moving around Sri Lanka
• To ensure your safety, please arrange transport services with your certified accommodation provider or travel agent before traveling.
Public transport is not used
аватар Apyatka
Public transport should not be used.
• All tourist sites will be open from August 1st with protocols and safety measures in place to ensure the well-being of our travelers.
• There will be no restrictions for tourists to travel between regions.
What is the situation in Sri Lanka with COVID-19?
As an island, thanks to the measures taken, Sri Lanka was able to cope with the spread of the virus. No active domestic cases have been detected in the country in the past 30 days.
A source:
Sri Lanka Tourism Promotion Bureau
(How infuriating is this restriction in signs)
аватар camomille
https://youtu.be/coCdnBe-1MY
P.S. these ladies have an interesting travel channel, I enjoy watching them
аватар ira.novo2000
A negative PCR test matters, but a positive one does not mean disease or contagiousness. It only means that this virus once visited the body and its remnants remained. The virus is not well understood. Cytomegalovirus, for example, remains in the body for life after infection (not even a disease, but just an infection)
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