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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар lolipoli.com.ua
Hello. Thanks for the answer. Of course not. I am not sure(
If you understand that upon arrival from the Czech Republic, your husband will not have to sit for 14 days. That and the power of attorney is not required. And everything is so blurry. Green zones, red. The Czech Republic is supposedly a low-infected country. But it seems that foreigners will be allowed in, and citizens will be forced to sit ((
аватар Sergey_7979
Vueling canceled Kyiv-Barcelona-Kyiv flights until 04.10.2020.
There is an assumption that we are not expected in Europe until October for the purpose of tourism ... But only for the purpose of business trips.
Other air carriers are still holding on, but as they said a little earlier, it is apparently more profitable for airlines to operate a flight without passengers than to cancel and return money for a ticket :-(
аватар camomille
Ukraine today entered the countries of the "red list" - already more than 40 active cases per 100 thousand population ((
Spain's ratio is even worse - 141 and it's not a fact that they will soon be able to lower it. Therefore, upon arrival from Spain, all Ukrainians are waiting for a two-week observation. So it's not just about us, but also about Spain.
аватар Lilu..10
So for tourism, Europe has not yet opened its borders. And, if someone needs business, treatment, etc., then follow the conditions, but what did you expect? The forecast was for a year or even two
аватар Sergey_7979
Ryanair, meanwhile, resumed Barcelona-Eiev-Barcelona and Madrid-Kyiv-Madrid flights on 06/20/2020. The frequency of both so far is twice a week, since August 1 - 3 times a week.
Why they did this is still unclear in the context of closed tourism, to carry travel and labor migrants is not the volume
аватар moy_contakt
Apparently, to start, my relative is stuck in London and now she is going to return just by the flight London - Boryspil (I think from London, generally England). But she will definitely have an observation for 14 days. And believe me, there are quite a few like her. She went on business in March and only now she will be able to return.
аватар Pachok
In the meantime, “the one they don’t call here” on his website distributes instructions on how to deceive European states and infiltrate them under quarantine, even without observation. Tips for Russians with two passports, but still...
аватар Slav_na
Pachok, where can I see this?
аватар camomille
Pachok, please, drop the link in a personal. On my own, I can’t find anything on the website of “the one who is not called here”.
аватар Pachok
I sent it, but I wrote this to the fact that quarantine and rules are not written for "our people", this is not a guide to action :) And now I would not really like to encounter citizens of the "red" country in "clean" Croatia, Montenegro or Greece zones that got there by deceit and did not pass the observation.
аватар Apyatka
You probably also received a notification, but suddenly not - there is a website where information is updated where Ukrainians are allowed. The site is slow, I hope it will be finalized
https://tripadvisor.mfa.gov.ua/
аватар Pachok
But for Ukrainians, a completely legal way to Croatia through Hungary was opened by car.
https://www.facebook.com/kristina.adriatictravel/posts/1147934482244029
аватар camomille
oh, there would still be a life hack on how to enter Italy through Hungary by plane))
By the way, Italy is already a green zone, Hungary too. now they would start letting us into the EU.
аватар Slav_na
there is only one problem: it is not a fact that green countries are really green. as relevant as ever about underinvestigation ((
аватар mishatour
I don't know, maybe I'm listening to the wrong radio or watching the wrong TV ...)). Discussions on the topic of relaxation, deceive Europe ... dubious references ... Gentlemen ... are 14 days at sea really worth putting your life in danger ???
аватар Slav_na
mishatour,
many really did not come across this horror closely - as a result, many do not believe either TV or net.
I have 600 shift workers on observation in my city now - there are a lot of them, who have a plus test. three floors in the hospital for covid and there are few free places - despite the fact that the hospital is already difficult
... and Kharkiv residents, for example, say that all their wards are empty...
аватар camomille
So it is not known where you will find, where you will lose ... It is clear that God protects the cherished, but at the same time: if he knew where to fall, he would lay straws. You can get infected where you don't expect. My parents were locked up for 2.5 months, and then my mother ended up in the hospital, where there was a huge risk of getting infected.
It is clear that it is stupid to fly to a country with a bad epidemiological situation. But I don't think that the statistics in the EU countries will lie very much.
аватар Apyatka
I have a link from the consular service of Ukraine)
In general, I am also for staying at home.
аватар camomille
YaSlavnaYa, this is not true. The 22nd Infectious Diseases Hospital is jam-packed. A friend of the family had a family friend there about a month ago. They say: horror, horror. Yesterday, all the news went around the riots in the Chernobyl hospital, in which they began to accept covid patients.
аватар camomille
In general, I am also for staying at home.
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Apyatka, and that's why you took tickets to Vietnam ;)))
аватар Pachok
No, life is not worth 14 days of rest. Here no one called for deception, quite the contrary - this savagery only increases the duration of the virus and provokes the need for new quarantines.
On the other hand, Kyiv is dangerous, Kyiv is "red", here 5% of positive tests are detected during carpet testing. Those. not 3,000 cases, but 5% of 3 million inhabitants. About. I just went for fruit - an ambulance with doctors in full ammunition was under the entrance, in a neighboring yard - another one.
An isolated house on the coast of Croatia or Greece seems to me a much safer place to spend holidays with a child.
аватар Apyatka
"So it is not known where you will find, where you will lose .."
In Kyiv, the house exploded. Sunday at 10 am. 4 or 5 floors were blown right through. People were sitting at home.
But this is not about where a specific person will find the infection, but about the fact that it is too early to move around the world. So we will never get rid of the pandemic.
But, apparently, the course of the epidemic in our country does not cause fear among the townsfolk. Only those who buried or work in covid rooms see that the disease exists and it is dangerous.
аватар Apyatka
"Apyatka, and that's why you took tickets to Vietnam ;)))"
at the end of November
we'll see in November.
It seems to me that the Vietnamese will not let us in even in November (
аватар camomille
perhaps, but there is still hope if quarantine is strengthened now.
but, apparently, no one in our country is going to do this.
apparently they are waiting for a situation, like in northern Italy, when a massive pestilence begins
аватар Apyatka
There is hope)
Contra spem spero
аватар camomille
Dum spiro spero
аватар Slav_na
camomille,
here! But FB says otherwise...
аватар mishatour
A little bit of optimism) Yesterday I came across an article by an Italian doctor, which fits well with what is happening in Israel. The doctor concludes that the virus has lost its aggressiveness and today behaves like an ordinary flu. An increase in temperature and humidity contribute to the loss of virus activity. This is probably just a hypothesis, but today in Israel there is a sharp jump in infected people (300 per day) and there are no serious ones. Viruses also have a lifespan, let's hope that he does not live to see the creation of a vaccine). Then, brushing the dust off the suitcases, we will begin to travel the world)
аватар moy_contakt
Well I do not know. How many people flooded onto local beaches .... no distance .. But I’m planning to take the children to a hotel where everything will be in accordance with the norms - 50% occupancy, the hotel is one of the best in Sharm, service and the implementation of all quarantine measures. There, in the best of times, the cleaning was and the food was excellent, but now it is even better. I don't worry at all. But Turkey was abandoned, because it completely removed all prohibitions - hotel occupancy is 100%, whether or not there is a certificate is no longer important, Russia has been traveling since August ..... no, I won’t take children to such Turkey.
аватар Igor_m
"Gentlemen...is 14 days at sea really worth putting your life in danger???"
I observe public transport - crowded in the morning and evening hours, half of the passengers without masks. Yesterday I visited several offices, I did not see masks on their faces in any of them. On the way home
I went for berries to Salyutnaya (a small market - the people of Kiev know). Boxes with goods are freely available to everyone, and people diligently, without gloves, feel each vegetable and fruit.
Misha, I'm over the sea!
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