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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар Igor_m
https://tripadvisor.mfa.gov.ua/ - relevant for travelers.
аватар Apyatka
"The doctor concludes that the virus has lost its aggressiveness and today behaves like an ordinary flu."
Isn't that the doctor who got busted?)
So far, this is no ordinary flu.
аватар Pachok
"apparently they are waiting for a situation, like in northern Italy, when a massive pestilence begins"
camomille, Golubovskaya claims that in some areas the situation already resembles the beginning of the Italian scenario.
аватар Apyatka
Vietnam has lifted all restrictions. And not a single person died there. I am for Vietnam!
But he doesn't want us yet.
Besides, we haven't learned how to teleport yet. In an airplane, the risk of infection is higher than in a minibus, because there we spend more time in a completely enclosed space.
But I wouldn't recommend taking the bus.
аватар Pachok
Well, about the mutation, the Chinese say that there are six strains at the moment and two news - bad and relatively good. The bad news is that there is no cross-immunity, those who have been ill with the old covid are easily infected with fresh ones, the good news is that there is less lethality from new ones.
аватар Sergey_7979
Igor_m,
I also live in that area. Right behind the market at the beginning of Salyutnaya there is a recently restored park. In the evening I go from work through it - crowds of people, all totally without masks
аватар Igor_m
Sergey_7979, I'm glad I'm not alone (in a mask).
аватар mishatour
moy_contakt, you think well of Sharma. Sanitation is there at the best of times .. Not this place ... where you can eat from public plates. Although everyone decides for himself and do not take my opinion for anti-advertising
аватар moy_contakt
mishatour I thought very well))) do not worry. Well, I repeat that I and my whole family had this infection, I did not take an antibody test .... and I probably won’t.
аватар mishatour
Igor, and I'm over the sea). We are talking about a little different things. Market, public transport...etc...you can not visit (restrict if possible) . But once you're on a plane, a hotel on the beach... your actions are limited and you just become part of the crowd... And today it's not entirely safe. Yes, and there may be problems with transportation ... Did you notice that someone flew to England in March and returned in June?? Have you heard about the meeting of heads of state ... about international symposiums ??? Me not ! That's when THEY fly on THEIR planes with their chefs ... then we can think about flights. I feel like a pessimist, although a realist in life))
аватар Igor_m
Misha, I don't have to go anywhere this year, for sure. I booked a villa Polyana (Transcarpathia), because there are rains with floods, and destroyed roads with bridges (I'm in a car), and they also strengthened quarantine. Therefore, I am overseas for today. Humanity will not soon learn to overcome evil in any of its manifestations, until then we will be pessimists, although most of us are realists.
аватар mishatour
my_contakt, have a good rest! Looking forward to your impressions
аватар Pachok
Hotels and planes are bad. A car and a separate house / villa / cottage are good :) Especially in a place where there are no crowds on the beach, but there is a supermarket with delivery!
аватар Slav_na
no car ... we will stay at home
аватар moy_contakt
Who was going to the western one .... such a tin is happening .. water is running, landslides, rains have not stopped for more than a week .... Campaign, nature decided to wash off the western one together with a crown ....
аватар Minor
moy_contakt, Yes, horror is happening there! But ... it was not necessary to cut down forests. Now nature takes revenge
аватар camomille
camomille, Golubovskaya claims that in some areas the situation already resembles the beginning of the Italian scenario
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I really hope she's wrong.
Otherwise, with our healthcare system, we will not have Italy, but Ecuador (((
Especially in a place where there is no crowd on the beach, but there is a supermarket with delivery!
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A couple of months ago, I read an article, moreover, in some authoritative publication like the NYT, about how a woman in the United States became infected with a coronavirus through the delivery of groceries. She had some kind of chronic disease, because of which she was at risk, and in order to protect herself, she was in complete isolation. The woman did not communicate with anyone, even with family members, and lived absolutely apart in her house. The only source of infection for her could only be through the delivery of food from the supermarket.
аватар Pachok
Yes, in memory almost every year it’s the same thing with bad weather in some areas :( Nothing changes - they settle again in the same place where the water spills, they cut the forest mercilessly, they rivet one-day bridges, the media pumps up a scarier picture and not always even this year .
But we are no longer going there for other reasons.
аватар camomille
Moreover, the woman did not communicate with couriers. The products were left at her door, and she then disinfected them.
аватар Pachok
Interesting...
A lot of things have already been written that the virus is "heavy" and falls when a person exhales it. He himself cannot take off again in order to get on the mucous membranes. It is necessary to take it with your hands and "rub it" in the eyes, mouth and nose. And then - there are already some studies that these fallen viruses are not viable. But where is the truth, of course, we will find out in 2-3 years at best.
аватар dusik1981
For lovers of holidays abroad, or rather in Montenegro, here is what Consul Mikhail Shmatov writes
Starting from June 22, Ukrainian citizens can enter Montenegro if they have a negative PCR test for COVID-19. Requirements for this test:
- it should be a PCR test, rapid test is not suitable;
- the test must be taken no later than 72 hours before crossing the Montenegrin border (72 hours after blood collection, not results);
- the test must be printed and translated into Montenegrin or English;
- the test must be performed in a laboratory accredited to ISO 15189, ISO / IEC 17025.
so we think, reason, draw conclusions.
аватар veritasana
Igor_m, here I am watching people without masks at stops and on buses .. We need more information from the hospital, live .. Maybe then they will understand ..
аватар moy_contakt
veritasana let's not talk about masks ... so that they protect at least from something they need to be worn correctly and the mask itself must be correct and not worn one mask forever .... those from masks today are many times more harm than good and sense in general. When I see a dirty rag put on in a store, which was previously a mask, on my face so that they let me into the store ... I understand that masks are not about us ... ordinary self-tailoring will also not protect against anything (except for dust, of course). .but breathing in exhaled carbon dioxide, a person definitely endangers his health. Live ..... I am for if it will be a tuberculosis hospital so that people still start making flurka once a year! But you don’t need to talk about covid ..... Raise the statistics at the expense of 30% of sick doctors .. debilizm (they should be kept separate records and they should not be included in the general statistics, because these are people in the outbreak and with a direct probability of getting sick and the source is clear , unlike Uncle Vanya from the village of Zaprudnoe, that's where you need to look for contacts and understand where.
аватар Sergey_7979
Q.E.D:
Until a vaccine is invented, until it is tested, until it is included in the medical protocols as mandatory (such as BSZh), until then we will be in quarantine.
And with the opening of borders for tourism, a rhetorical question :-(
аватар camomille
"until then we will be in quarantine" ... and what is quarantine now? that there are no concert and entertainment events and upon arrival from some countries, the list of which is constantly decreasing, a 14-day observation is provided. what else? nothing else is being done and, apparently, will not be done until the mass pestilence begins. they are already releasing from the country, they reported about the opening of all airports. another thing is that we are now like lepers for Europe and the EU does not even plan to let us in in the near future.
аватар Pachok
Chatted with my favorite Turkish hotel today. The information is this - the validity period of the certificate is a month, then an extension. The occupancy will depend solely on bookings, there are no restrictions of 50%. Further, what has already been written here many times - the cook distributes food, the waiters deliver drinks. Opened today.
аватар moy_contakt
Pachok, so I already wrote a week ago that Turkey removed all restrictions on occupancy. They have opened for all countries except Iran (or maybe there are already changes in connection with the upcoming holiday in August, the hotels need to be filled by someone). Therefore, I did not consider Turkey for recreation.
аватар Apyatka
Current updated map for Russians https://www.tinkoff.ru/travel/map/
Up-to-date updated map for Ukrainians
https://tripadvisor.mfa.gov.ua/
In Russia, the statistics are now artificially lowered. Whether it is worth going to Russian resorts, everyone decides for himself.
I haven't been to any resort yet. On July 2, I leave remote work. There is simply no way to work from home anymore. I'm worried about this. People are so tired of the coronavirus that now they just fuck everything up.
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