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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар mishatour
I risk only my free time, freedom of movement, yes, this moment it is. I don’t see any risks for us today due to covid.
moy_contakt, in principle, and I don’t know about it .... about the rest.
In any case, do not be offended, have a good rest to all your family!!
аватар Pachok
camomille, travel agent did not show pictures from the plane? They showed me, I was shocked. The plane was packed, the flight attendants hid immediately after takeoff, for the entire cabin there were two or three tourists in thin blue masks, the rest with "naked" faces. This is about safety standards ... it seems that hotels will not be the main hotbeds.
аватар moy_contakt
camomile, in Egypt, too, everything is fine, a lot depends on the hotel. But we decided not to go to Turkey - they are open to everyone, 100% occupancy is allowed. Well, the main argument is that they will fly to them from countries with a high level of morbidity, the same Russia, for example, was supposed to fly from July 15, now it has been postponed to August 1. Well, yes, the plane is the main carrier of the infection. If there is at least one infected person, then everyone has a great chance of catching it. And masks won't save anyone.
аватар camomille
Pachok, I saw a video on instagram from someone from TO, how the first tourists arrived. get out of the plane into the sleeve, while wearing masks .... from the series "dementia and courage" ...
аватар camomille
moy_contakt, I remember that you wrote about this, so I was also focused on Egypt and now I'm thinking ...
аватар camomille
And masks won't save anyone.
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Well, if the FFP3 respirator sits far away, then I think there is a small chance of salvation ....
аватар moy_contakt
camomile, you also need to be able to use a respirator, and our average layman naturally does not know how to do this. And no one canceled such moments as drinking and eating. So masks, respirators, etc. are an illusion to calm down. I wear masks only where it is required, so there is no point in the mask except for harm.
аватар camomille
my_contact
You probably don’t need to worry too much, because you should have resistance due to antibodies, at least for several months.
аватар moy_contakt
camomile, so I'm not worried. I'm just voicing options. 2 years ago, the children caught measles in this way, why am I sure that the plane? Because from this flight, we weren’t the only ones who got sick after arrival.
аватар camomille
I myself was so sick. We flew to Barca - some lady sat next to me covered in snot and sneezed and blew her nose all the way. As a result, the next day I have a similar condition: my nose is clogged, my throat hurts, my head hurts, apparently I have a temperature, and I don’t have any pills with me - we were going to rest, not to get sick (now I take medicine with me)))). as a result, she drank a shock dose of coldrex-type powders, wine and slept all day in the room. good thing it was over the next day. otherwise it would be embarrassing...
аватар moy_contakt
camomile well, we were lucky that measles with an incubation period of 14 days, rested 12 and upon arrival the children one after another. Well, but 100% immunity to this infection. And we always take a bag of medicines, this is such a thing, it is not always and not always possible to buy them quickly everywhere. Antipyretic, from diarrhea is a mandatory set.
аватар camomille
yes, you can say lucky that you got sick at home, and not on vacation in a foreign country
аватар moy_contakt
The children were very ill. If not for our pediatrician, with a panic (very similar to measles, we call an ambulance), they looked and said what it looks like, and on the spot the analysis confirmed that this is it. I had to lie down with my son in boxing for 3 days and left another injection room under a liability agreement, my daughter got sick at home. Survived the quarantine and that's it. And they said that kapets pipets and everything will be bad. Yes, some people are more comfortable with it, others are more difficult. As with the crown. The children hardly noticed that they were sick.
аватар Pachok
Three days in boxing - is it considered to be easily ill?
Excuse me, but were all measles vaccines by age?
I have a personal interest, so I ask - it's time to revaccinate my daughter against measles, but something I don't like is what has been happening for the last two years with this infection, including among those vaccinated.
аватар moy_contakt
Pachok, 3 days in boxing, that means that we were in the ward for two patients, because this is a very serious illness. The child himself felt fine. The temperature was two days, sprinkled and no more problems, not like a vaccinated neighbor who could not stand the daylight. There was such an edema of the eyes ... At the time of our arrival there, the child had been there for the second week and the doctors did not know what to do with him. They took us for x-rays every day, and as a result, we went home, and he was in intensive care. My daughter got sick just as easily. There were no inoculations with clumsy, my children are allergic and we don’t do everything, but what we do is first a bunch of tests and in the hospital 3 days before and after.
аватар Pachok
Thanks for the answer.
аватар Sergey_7979
Am I missing something or is it already possible to go to Slovenia?
https://ua.news/ua/kuda-ukrayntsy-mogut-uletet-bez-observatsyy-spysok-stran/
аватар Apyatka
17 citizens of Ukraine, including two children, who flew to Greece from Kyiv, were detained at Athens airport due to a ban on entry into the EU for citizens of third countries. The Ukrainians arrived in the Greek capital on Saturday evening on two flights: Ryanair (departed from Boryspil at 18:00) and Wizz Air (departed at 18:45 from Kyiv airport).
Passengers reported that they were placed in the cells of the police station on the territory of the airport, having taken away all their belongings. Only phones without chargers were allowed to leave.
Travelers complain that there are cockroaches in the cells, there is no soap and toilet paper, they are not provided with food and water, but they were allowed to purchase food and essentials at their own expense.
аватар moy_contakt
The question is, who is their doctor, even if people like me, who are not interested in Greece at the moment, knew that the road to Ukraine is closed in the EU for the time being. I don’t understand at all what they were counting on and what kind of documents they had, on the basis of which the air carrier decided that they would be made an exception ....
аватар Slav_na
my_contact,
the air carrier doesn't care. ticket bought - and fly! they won’t let you in - you’ll fly back, bring us money in your beak
... in such cases I remember a poor doctor from Italians in Russia)))
аватар Pachok
Nothing like this. When checking in for a flight, they always check whether the passenger has a legitimate opportunity to cross the border at the final destination and (or) how transit is organized. What happened here is anyone's guess. Most likely, the airport registrars just clicked.
аватар Pachok
And our passengers knew for sure that it was impossible in the EU, I have no doubt about that. They thought they were the smartest. They jump that all of us will be covered for visa-free travel for "cleverness".
аватар Slav_na
Maybe they didn't know that Greece is the EU? anything happens...
about "They always check when checking in for a flight ..." - a friend three years ago decided to save money and fly from Kyiv to watch the white nights not through Minsk, but through Riga. and there was no transit zone (now there is, no - I don’t know), you have to go to the city. and there is no visa either ... in short, they returned back to Kyiv. save a damn!
also paid a fine
аватар Minor
YaSlavnaYa, the airlines don't care. There is an entry about Vizachek on the ticket. Airlines pierced it to check and will be required to return passengers at their own expense. And, especially if the ticket cost 9 euros, then who will suffer from their negligence. This is when tickets are expensive, then maybe nothing for the airline
аватар Vika284
"The air carrier doesn't care. You bought a ticket - but fly! They won't let you in - you'll fly back, bring us money in your beak"
This is not true
Example: I flew to Tunisia several times when it was off season, when there were no direct charters. From Kyiv there were Lufthansa flights via Frankfurt. At the check-in desk in Boryspil, an employee is called who checked the visa + voucher for the hotel and insurance, and after the permission of this employee, they check in for the flight.
Just like that, they won’t check in for a flight with a disputed visa entry
аватар olyajan
Vika284, still how to register. My director just bought the tickets in Tenerife via London. And I didn’t take into account that the arrival and departure zones are different, and there are no British visas, and that’s all, fly back like a white swan, the whole vacation was covered with a copper basin. And in Boryspil, he calmly passed the registration and passport control. What didn't they see that he didn't have a British visa?
аватар Vika284
At the Riga airport, back in 2012 there was a zone for those who travel from Kyiv to Moscow and back but without a Schengen visa
аватар Pachok
YaSlavnaYa So, in the case of your friend, the negligence of the employee at the registration also took place. I saw personally how days are counted by biometrics to Europe, and we ourselves are never allowed to go to the South Caucasus without checking a visa, and we fly there often. We check in at home for the flight, go to the baggage drop desk, see a Ukrainian passport - welcom in the general queue to check everything in order, first of all, a valid visa.
аватар Vika284
olyajan means the staff has changed in Boryspil now.
Before quarantine at the end of February and in Egypt at the beginning of March, I was in Tunisia, checked at registration
аватар Vika284
Sorry Egypt got drunk because of T9
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