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аватар olyajan
Observation, I mean.
аватар Iren48
To Crimea? Yes, and transit? :))) Ndya! My friend, just before the quarantine, took a seven-year-old child to her father in Yalta for the holidays and still cannot pick it up. Getting there from Ukraine is now sooo problematic. The bus, which used to drive without problems to Yalta itself, is now waiting on Chongar, they will let it through, they won’t let it through. If not, lucky back. Only those who have a Crimean residence permit are allowed in. Maybe something will change from August 1, God forbid!
аватар Marsyanchik
Call carrier companies such as South Wind. They know what and how. I know to go with fresh dough. They seem to be allowed.
аватар dusik1981
olyajan if you want to have problems with the law, try to cross, ie the extra 1700 or 5100 are well across the Crimea, and full clear information on the website of the Border Guard Service of Ukraine is https://dpsu.gov.ua/ua//gromadyani-ukraini//
if laziness is respected here is the excerpt We draw the attention of all citizens
A citizen of Ukraine, a foreigner and a stateless person shall not have the right to enter the territory of Ukraine through the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, as well as to leave the territory of Ukraine through the Autonomous Republic of Crimea.
That is, in case of passing the route, for example, Moscow - Simferopol - Odesa (Kherson - Kerch - Sochi), employees of the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine have the right to detain a citizen of Ukraine for up to 3 hours to draw up a report and bring to administrative responsibility. and to prohibit entry into the territory of Ukraine for 3 years (Article 14-1 of the Law of Ukraine "On the Legal Status of Foreigners and Stateless Persons").
This route is a violation of the order of entry / exit to the Autonomous Republic of Crimea.
аватар Slav_na
violation. but if no one tells, then no one will know
аватар dusik1981
YaSlavnaYa, of course, they will tell and find out, at least there is a favorite site by the border guards, I think you know which one, there are not only celebrities but also ordinary people in the database of more than 20 thousand mine now, as well as the border crossing base.
аватар Slav_na
dusik1981,
border crossing base in Chongar? so the person does not hide it. and then, if he passes over the bridge to the Kuban, and then returns the same way - who will know about it?
I am in no way advocating breaking the law. but let's be honest - they are violated. and you can find out if a person was resting somewhere in Simeiz or rolled into Lazorevskoye only from the person himself
аватар dusik1981
YaSlavnaYa
read my post first, and then go to that site and see the number of people entered by the guys in the database, do not forget they have "invisible helpers" who give information
аватар Slav_na
dusik1981,
to go through Moscow, expensive and long, but without violations - or through the Crimea, cheap and cheerful, but gardens and without photos ... people, asking, probably calculated all their risks. and he was not interested in legal issues (I think people understand what they are violating), but in the answer on the topic - how to do it ...
аватар dusik1981
YaSlavnaYa
if a person is looking for how to get around legal ways, then he made a mistake with the forum
аватар Slav_na
human beings make mistakes...
аватар dusik1981
Tunc lupus est homo homini, non errare humanum est.
аватар Iren48
So from, about the Crimea. I'm telling. I just talked with a friend who has a daughter in Yalta with her father. She went and paid 700 UAH for the test. But they didn't let her in! They are only allowed to visit close relatives with Russian citizenship. The daughter does not have citizenship, and they are not painted with her father. Something like this.
аватар Olgaolga153
What is the point of taking the test if the Crimea is now a hotbed of infection. Yesterday we were at the clinic and heard the doctor complaining to the nurse that people were returning from the Crimea, many with pneumonia, and the whole family at once.
My granddaughter is in 1st grade. We still don’t know whether there will be a line, how they will study (at school or remotely), in which class they were assigned, what generally needs to be bought. Nobody knows anything. Mess!
аватар dusik1981
I once wrote that they are only allowed into the Crimea for a gum purpose, that is, to relatives like for a funeral, looking after a sick relative is documented, and suggested reading off sites, but many use OBS (one grandmother said) and as they say " mayo, those who are mayo". You need to think with your head before visiting such a place.
аватар dusik1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBxrJb4Jmoo&feature=emb_logo this is what happens to those who illegally cross the border of Ukraine)))
аватар Olgaolga153
dusik1981 And what did you want to say? I think that neither in Ukraine nor in Russia the world has converged like a wedge. There are about 250 countries in the world. Those who wish can choose any. Glucose is no exception and is unlikely to lose anything due to the refusal to visit Nezalezhnaya.
аватар dusik1981
Olgaolga153 in my post there is also an answer, it concerned those who asked the question, what will happen and how., if you visit the Crimea in an order not established by law.
аватар Apyatka
They are allowed to visit close relatives.
Will they let me see my granddaughter... I wonder if my granddaughter is a close relative?
аватар veritasana
granddaughter? .. most likely .. we are talking about "family members" .. article 3 of the Family Code
аватар dusik1981
Apyatka
According to Ukrainian law, a granddaughter is not a close relative unless custody is issued.
So from 09.08.2020 Crimea is closed for people without Crimean residence permit
"From 8:00 on August 9 at 8:00 on August 30 will stop the work of checkpoints entering and leaving the temporarily occupied territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol, except for the passage of citizens of Ukraine and their families:
- whose place of residence is registered in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea or the city of Sevastopol, as well as their vehicles, cargo and other property - at the entrance;
- whose place of residence is registered outside the Autonomous Republic of Crimea or the city of Sevastopol, as well as their vehicles, cargo and other property - for departure; who have agreed to self-isolation using the electronic service "Action at home " of the Unified state web portal of electronic services since crossing the checkpoints of entry into the temporarily occupied territory
аватар dusik1981
whose place of residence is registered outside the Autonomous Republic of Crimea or the city of Sevastopol, as well as their vehicles, cargo and other property - for departure; who agreed to self-isolation using the electronic service "Action at Home" of the Unified State Web Portal of Electronic Services from the moment of crossing the checkpoints entering and leaving the temporarily occupied territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol.
- persons in order to ensure the protection of national interests or in connection with the implementation of international obligations, representatives of diplomatic missions and humanitarian missions leaving the temporarily occupied territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol, as well as their vehicles, cargo and other property.
аватар dusik1981
so that whoever does not have a Crimean residence permit, alas, it is legal not to get into Crimea
аватар dusik1981
Article 2. Participants in family relations regulated by the Family Code of Ukraine 1. The Family Code of Ukraine regulates family personal non-property and property relations between spouses, between parents and children, adoptive parents and adopted children, between mother and father of the child's upbringing, development and content.
4. The Family Code of Ukraine does not regulate family relations between cousins, aunt, uncle and niece, nephew and other relatives by descent.
so just adopt a granddaughter)))
аватар Apyatka
I'm not in the Crimea, I'm in the Russian Federation. The daughter is married there. My son-in-law is not a relative, my daughter is not a citizen of the Russian Federation. And the granddaughter is not a close relative.
How can I get to them? I already have a hole in my chest. 5 months old baby, but I never held her in my arms.
аватар Slav_na
from U. and to the Russian Federation you are let in, but with such a headache that it is better to stay at home. first, at the Ukrainian customs, you will be x-rayed from head to toe for a considerable time, then you will marathon on foot in neutral, then sign a paper where you solemnly swear to quarantine yourself at a certain address and x-ray again in a Nepadetian way ... do you need it ?!
аватар Slav_na
we won't get home like this. the cat is already threatening to sell the apartment)))
аватар Apyatka
YaSlavnaYa Probably by bus? I would not go by bus in "peaceful" time either. I want to fly via Istanbul. I am waiting for an answer from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs whether they will let me in. Well, I really need it. If Russia is quarantined again from September, then I won’t get in at all.
And I understand your cat) Where are you stuck? Why can't you get home?
аватар Slav_na
Apyatka
we are in the Russian Federation, on treatment. we want to go home to hell.
my post is a tracing paper from the story of shift workers who traveled through Kharkov. they say that it is easier on the "three sisters".
16.08 like Minsk finally opens the sky, we will try through Belarus
аватар Apyatka
YaSlavnaYa through Belarus would be great. But while Belavia does not fly to Moscow, although it sells tickets.
And with the new events in Belarus, it is generally unclear what will happen and how.
Now the most real is Turkishi through Istanbul.
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