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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар Apyatka
I also thought I was overwhelmed. From March 1 to mid-April, she was ill, could not recover. Temperature 38.5, chills, cough, sweating at night, weakness. At first I didn’t think about the corona, I brought down the temperature and came to work a week later, then they listened to me there and sent me for an x-ray, the x-ray didn’t show, but the doctor heard pneumonia with my ear. They sent him home to finish the treatment and gave him antibiotics. The temperature rose again and lasted for more than a month. We were given second antibiotics and here we already began to suspect that there might be a corona. And just such a rush, you can’t go to the clinic, quarantine is in full swing. My husband brought a pulse oximeter from work, I measured it, oxygenation was 97, so I will live. And the test is neither free nor paid.
Two months later, when ELISA for immunoglobulin G appeared, I take an analysis - there are no antibodies. I don’t know what I was sick with, maybe the flu, but in December I already had the flu.
The scent did not lose, but the taste was changed, everything was tasteless. Taste may change at high temperatures
аватар Slav_na
we have a medical history. and a bunch of tests. so we don't count - we know
аватар Pachok
You know for sure, but many simply believe that they have been ill, although they have not done tests. This is the wrong strategy, it relaxes.
аватар Slav_na
Apyatka, why not for a fee? we have a friend in the DNA LABORATORY made, somewhere in the area of ​​​​the industrial bridge
аватар Apyatka
YaSlavnaYa, no one did at that moment. Not a single lab. It was in the middle of March. Now it's a completely different question. Now you can
аватар Apyatka
By the way, the DNA laboratory makes the covid test cheaper than other laboratories. And issue a certificate in English. This is for travelers
аватар elena_kozhevina
Yes, the validity of the passport must be at least 120 days from the date of entry. True, they will check this at check-in for the flight. It happened to me today: at the airport of departure, two employees counted the days of validity of the passport for half an hour. I have exactly 120! And in Antalya, no one calculated anything, they put a stamp and go!
аватар Kasja23
This year's winter seasonal flu was of the H1N1 strain, that is, the notorious swine flu.
It has a higher mortality rate than covid. Only Tamiflu helps.
(Remember how Yulia bought Tamiflu in 2009 during the swine flu epidemic, only we got off with a slight fright? Although masks were purchased then, and medicines.)
Now swine flu is no longer as lethal as it was then - over time, viruses mutate,
becoming "softer", but anyway, it's a serious illness. I myself had the flu in January
unusually hard. Was sick for a month. while. that usually 2 days are enough for me to recover from SARS.
аватар mazay.60
The question is actually on the topic of the forum. We are planning to go to Turkey in October, in connection with which we are interested in whether the main medical insurance covers the diagnosis and treatment of covid, or is it necessary to issue an additional one? I apologize if this issue has been discussed before.
аватар moy_contakt
mazay.60 check this where you take the tour, because each MOT has its own rules. Join Up has additional insurance (I flew, bought it to the main one, my dad flew, did not take it).
аватар Veronika7081
Ask your travel agent. No one better than him will inform you on this issue.
аватар Apyatka
Who knows - does Turkey now require travel insurance? And should it say that there is a covid cover?
аватар Igor_m
Turkey
Temporary entry mode
Allowed. The checkpoint provides a medical examination for Covid symptoms at the checkpoint. If symptoms are detected during the examination, a PCR test is performed free of charge. From 1 July, entry is required subject to the mandatory availability of an insurance policy for COVID 19, which can be purchased online, from the tour operator, when purchasing tickets, as well as directly at the Turkish airport upon arrival.
аватар Apyatka
Thanks!
So I’ll buy it at the airport in Turkey, if they give a fuck) I have good insurance, one-year, from Arsenal, but it was issued before the covid history. The insurance company answered the call that the insurance covers the treatment of all respiratory diseases, including covid. That the only question is whether or not the country of entry requires such wording, rendered separately.
аватар Pachok
Has anyone read the wonderful story from a tourist from Crystal Flora about how she and her family were put into isolation due to the fact that covid was discovered in their transfer neighbors, how like a beast everyone behaved and what came of it?
I would not trust the Turks now at all. Turkey's statements were such that diagnostics and treatment were at their expense, but in the end they took money from people for tests and did not even give receipts. The results had to be demanded.
And it turns out that even with a negative test, but proven contact, tourists are required to sit in isolation for 14 days.
аватар moy_contakt
I read Pachok a couple of days ago and I think that the tours themselves, you didn’t behave quite right. If everything was really like this, then you had to contact the embassy, ​​etc., and not do tests at your own expense and buy tickets yourself (I understand that no one can reimburse money for tickets, because it was a personal initiative of tourists. There are more questions in the article I tried to find out through my friends if this is true, but few people know about this situation, which is strange.Usually, such stories diverge quickly through travel agencies .. And then silence.
аватар Olgaolga153
my_contact
It's good to talk while sitting on the couch in your native country. God forbid to be in the situation of that family. When they do complete chaos with you, then you generally get confused what to do and where to turn. And if you consider that they were simply isolated in a separate room with the phone turned off, without the help of a guide, then the "roof" can be blown away from a sense of their own helplessness.
I wonder how the tourist fate of the rest of the participants in this transfer in other hotels? But that covid tourist was still a passenger on the plane. Was the whole board quarantined?
аватар moy_contakt
Olgaolga153 precisely considering the described situation, it is strange to me that other possible levers of influence were not involved. Isolated? There is a mobile connection. Arriving in the country, I am sure that the rest receive SMS (such as happy, etc., hotline numbers, etc.). An elementary moment, and if there is no money, for example, for the same test 120 euros, and even more so for tickets, since the cost is not 2 hryvnias. Well, at the expense of my personal situations, how do you know in which situations I was or not?? Yes, I was not isolated due to contact with the patient, but believe me, there were situations where the ambassador came to the airport (by the way, it was Istanbul) and various issues were resolved remotely. It was different, so I was surprised that it was so quiet and peaceful, and silence fell down. Yes, given the current situation, each country has rules and procedures in case, but the attitude in any case implies respect, information and assistance in resolving the current situation.
аватар Slav_na
and what is strange in the fact that those who come into contact with the infectious must also be isolated?! actually, these are the basics ...
another question is that we live, according to talc, through well .... thorns to the stars
аватар moy_contakt
YaSlavnaYa in Egypt is beautiful, what will happen if .... A separate room in an isolated part with a part of the beach for swimming, etc. ..... This of course does not mean that this is how it will be, alas. But what would not be fed and treated like a Mr., this is of course tin.
аватар Olgaolga153
my_contact
So after all, the Turks promised the same thing + treatment (in case of detection of covid) at the expense of the host. What about in fact? Tin! I wouldn't sign any papers in English or Turkish at all. But again. It's easy to talk while sitting at home near the monitor when you're not under pressure.
In theory, all these promises should be spelled out in an agreement (or a separate agreement) between the host and the TO, and then between the TO and the tourist, so that it has a legal nature and does not turn out to be dust in the eyes.
аватар moy_contakt
So the situation is that it was this family that went through the contact, the analysis of covid is negative. In this case, there was no question of treatment. And covid insurance is not valid in the absence of confirmation. But there was direct contact and, according to the instructions, isolation for 14 days is needed everywhere. That is, the actions are correct, but all this could be done with the least stress for tourists. Protecting them on one side from contacts, but not completely locking them in the room. I think that the hotel, if everything was described correctly, went too far on all counts. Perhaps in this hotel there was no way to provide people with a piece of the beach and the opportunity to leave the room, I don’t know what kind of hotel it is, I never considered it. Frightened employees acted like pigs worrying only about their well-being.
аватар Pachok
The trick is not whether they were properly isolated and why they did not call the embassy (this is just understandable).
And the fact that no one anywhere and no one says or writes in large letters of the memo when buying a tour that the tourist will be quarantined for 14 days if there is contact! That it's official, not the guide/hotel/doctor's fault. Only one thing is heard from everywhere - "it's super to fly to Turkey, no tests, no isolation is needed."
And then the news arrived - about a man who died of covid in Turkey, and the family is now collecting money to transport the body home, because he was treated there longer than the insurance was valid, and he died uninsured. Why are tourists not insured for a month?
What is happening now is the complete irresponsibility of TO and TA.
Tourists should think it over ten times and play it safe.
Z.Y. I “liked” how the woman from the first case in the FB discussion was attacked by deranged women and even one peasant with accusations why she did not take an individual transfer from the airport.
аватар moy_contakt
Pachok can send me a link in PM on FB with a discussion, I just can't find it.
аватар moy_contakt
In a neighboring branch, a tourist vacationing in Albatross Palace Charm wrote that yesterday a tourist arrived at the hotel whose test turned out to be positive, he was isolated. So what's next?
аватар Pachok
moy_contakt, I'll try, it was still that week, I don't store it on purpose.
аватар zolyshka111
I read the latest news here and in a quiet shock. Lord, yes, even if they paid me extra, I would not have flown anywhere now.
аватар moy_contakt
zolyshka111 in every topic you directly shout that for nothing and so on. You cannot understand people who have not received their dose of sun due to quarantine. You drown for rest in the place, but I'd rather not go anywhere at all than in the place - everyone has their own opinion on this. I, as a lover (in the past) of the Republic of Belarus and, as a result, received a handful of deposits, managed to use 2 of them in July and August (which I am very glad about), but not everyone had such an opportunity, but I want to go to the sea !! , as I understand them (but looking at all this kotovasia myself, I would also hardly go), but this is a private matter for tourists, especially when it comes to a deposit that needs to be used, and not wait for the next year, maybe it’s not clear what will happen next.
аватар zolyshka111
moy_contakt, this is a forum and here everyone is free to express their point of view, which you do in every topic and at the same time actively defend only your point of view - a deposit, the sea, I want to and at least the grass does not grow. I am also a sun lover, but thank God, in Ukraine there is a sea and even two, so with a strong "breaking" you can get your "dose" of the sun. And, to be honest, without being too dramatic, the risk of flying to other countries now outweighs the benefits of a vacation. Since vacation means relaxation, and not a race for tests, self-isolation, temperature measurement, etc.
аватар kl_
in Ukraine there is a sea, but the service is "0", the price is space, tests are better!
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