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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар Slav_na
YaNAO
аватар Slav_na
and still undergo planned operations and all the required procedures. and onco, and dentistry, and all others. besides dispensary, really
аватар Olgaolga153
dusik1981
I understand about antibiotics. But, it is no secret that there are public and private pharmacies. The former require a prescription, but in the private ones, of which the majority, it was possible to buy everything without a prescription, except for drugs.
аватар dusik1981
Olgaolga153 some and the fact that they manage to sell on the red form without it, and why the brains of the buyer. Or how, in that situation, when a mine hit a red light, the driver is guilty and let him be imprisoned? as well as antibiotics. And where is the social responsibility of man. , who prevents him from buying without a prescription and gossip on a business entity. So maybe stability would be smaller, it was not necessary to invent something new.
Here is the answer to those who like to engage in self-identification.
аватар Sergey_7979
Today, after reading the new conditions for opening visas to Thailand:
certificate of at least 20 thousand dollars on the account, insurance of 20 thousand dollars, non-entry of the country into the red zone according to Thai criteria, and, of course, a negative PCR test. That is, there will be a difference in tourists not only on the basis of health, but also on wealth.
I assume that the first tourists will be admitted to Schengen after the end of quarantine with the same requirements.
аватар Apyatka
Sergey_7979, Thais create Noah's Ark)
There are no infected inside the country, newcomers are driven through tests and quarantine. And you can get on the Ark only for a lot of money.
But insurance is for 100 thousand, not 20.
аватар TombArthur
And where can I look at the statistics of PCR tests conducted throughout the country over the past day and in a particular city?
аватар dusik1981
If you mean Ukraine, general information can be viewed here https://moz.gov.ua/koronavirus-2019-ncov or here https://www.pravda.com.ua/cdn/covid-19/cpa/ .
If you need in terms of regions and OTG, then go to the siteODA or OTG that interests you and there you will see statistics.
аватар TombArthur
Nowhere did I find the number of tests carried out for each day. I want to see the percentage of infected people from the number of those who passed the test.
аватар dusik1981
for those who have a license to shoot a horned hare, I give an example by force https://www.pravda.com.ua/cdn/covid-19/cpa/ and if the calculated percentage does not suit the whole number, the same manipulations can be done on the sites Regional State Administration or OTG, if such structures are not liked, it is possible to review any regional laboratory center, as an example, taking the first best http://www.dolc.dp.ua/wpress /? P = 5504 where clearly all indicators of medical statistics are if lazy to follow the message copied info "Nov 16, 2020 in Operational Information / Sanitary Situation
During the reporting week, 2,895 suspected cases of acute respiratory disease COVID-19 caused by coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 (hereinafter - COVID-19) were registered in the region against 2359 on the previous Sunday. In total since the beginning of epidemic in area 21493 suspicions of COVID-19 disease are registered on all 35 administrative
аватар dusik1981
continuation of the "territories of the region.
During the reporting week, 2,895 laboratory-confirmed cases of COVID-19 were registered (intensive rate per 100,000 population 91.2) against 2,359 cases (internal number per 100,000 population 74.3). growth by 22.7%.
On 13.11.2020 the baseline incidence of COVID-19 (40 per 100,000 population) over the past 14 days exceeded in the region and 31 administrative territories (except Marganets, Pokrov, Vilnohirsk and Yuriyiv ​​district). 5254 cases were registered (which is 166.0 per 100 thousand population).
A total of 19909 laboratory-confirmed cases have been registered in the region since the beginning of the epidemic. The incidence rate of COVID-19 is 627.4 per 100,000 population. In the general structure of patients since the beginning of the epidemic, the share of adults is - 94.8%, children under 17 years - 5.2% (1040 cases).
Since the beginning of the epidemic, 563 people have died with confirmed SOVID-19 disease (including 101 during the reporting week). The mortality rate was
аватар dusik1981
end "The mortality rate was 2.8%. " For people with medical education, all indicators are available to understand the situation
аватар dusik1981
for those who are lazy to count
COVID-19 PANDEMIC
IN UKRAINE
A total of 3,979,421 (+37,770) PCR tests were performed.
DATA OF THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH OF UKRAINE. Update: 17.11.2020 08:37
the number of examinations per day is 37,700 tests
Confirmed cases:
557 657
+11,968 positive
calculation 11968/37700 * 100% = 31.75%, rounding to two decimal places.
Such calculations can be made by region and specific settlements. But these data are something average in the ward.))
аватар TombArthur
Thank you kind person. With me beer)
аватар dusik1981
TombArthur swear, I don’t take beer, I take stamps :)))
аватар Sergey_7979
From March 29, 2021, SkyUP launches Kyiv-Berlin-Kyiv flights. Do they know something or just traditionally deduct money from travelers for tickets, and then (and in case of flight cancellation) return the vouchers?
P.S. Berlin is home to one of the plants of the now world-famous pharmacological concern Pfizer.
"Coincidence - I do not think "
аватар Marsyanchik
I think Germany will not open for tourists by 03/29/2021. And for those who have permissions, why not. If it were possible, I would fly to be vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine.
аватар Sergey_7979
What you needed to prove - if you want to travel - get vaccinated:
https://lb.ua/world/2020/12/04/472246_vlada_kipru_virishila_vpuskati.html
I am convinced that maintaining such a rule by the rest of the EU is only a matter of time
аватар Marsyanchik
Great news! Looking forward to continuing soon.
аватар moy_contakt
Brad is complete. It is officially stated that the vaccine gives immunity for 3 months ..... I am sure that there will be an alternative for those who have been ill, as they officially have up to 6 months (my family has antibodies in a normal amount). And given that they get sick a lot and without exception, then all this nonsense with vaccination is an attempt to return the money spent on development, since no one will be vaccinated 4 times a year to prolong immunity. Well, and many more different but ... I am sure that the results of vaccination will surprise us.
аватар Pachok
Excuse me, can I have a link to the official statement on the duration of immunity after vaccination? Who said when and about what kind of vaccine?
аватар moy_contakt
My sister sent me this information (she is a doctor, lives in Berlin and this is a scientific British journal, it was stated there that the Moderna vaccine gives immunity for 3 months. I won’t give the link, because I didn’t read it myself, but there is no reason not to trust my sister.
аватар dusik1981
"I haven't read it, but I condemn it" (c). Write, at least the name, maybe it's "The Lancet", if it wasn't there. And what "Pupkin and Do" writes there is another quote And - God save you - do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner ... "On this forum, some also wrote that the chocolate factory was in Trostyanets, Chernihiv region, and with the vaccine.
аватар Pachok
It is a pity that there is no link to the British magazine.
In these retellings "someone said that he was told that he was read somewhere" the most important thing is often lost and the meaning is reversed. For example: perhaps it was written there not "gives immunity for 3 months", but "antibodies persist for AT LEAST three months", and they simply did not observe longer. At least that's what you can google.
аватар Slav_na
I went to the donor center, to take all sorts of tests there in order to share my blood. since six months have not passed, the blood has not yet been taken. I found out about vaccination - they said that I couldn’t, because we had been ill
аватар moy_contakt
Pachok in my case, not someone said, but in Germany the issue of vaccination has been resolved, and doctors without options will do it in the forefront. Only the same doctors have many questions that no one has answered for them so far. The first question is those who have been ill (just like we have those who have not replenished their statistics, but have been ill), they need to be identified. Second, since the disease is not seasonal, immunity must be maintained constantly, and the first vaccinated people will show how long it lasts, which means the experiment continues. The third one is that the vaccine will not be free everywhere and not for everyone, which means that insurance should apparently cover it, but there are also many moments and it’s not a fact that insurance companies will be able to cover it in such a volume, as this is a very large-scale campaign with all the consequences). And other questions. Therefore, at the moment, all the information is being read to understand what to do. My sister got sick easily, she has antibodies. But whether she will be vaccinated is not yet clear ... In theory, she does not need, and she does not have the desire to be a pioneer.
аватар dusik1981
like a person starts to play up first says that vaccination gives immunity for 3 months"All this is complete nonsense. It is officially stated that the vaccine gives immunity for 3 months..... " . Then, when those words cannot be confirmed, he writes where and how the issue of vaccination has been resolved " and in Germany the issue of vaccination has been resolved, and doctors without options will do it in the forefront. Only the same doctors have a lot of questions for which so far they no one answered." as they say, who is in the woods, who is for firewood.
аватар moy_contakt
Yulit?? I voice the real questions of people who will be vaccinated in the near future (certainly before our 100%). I can’t give a link - this is a fact, I communicate with my sister, a doctor (she lives in Berlin, she has been working there for many years, she has long been German citizenship). She, as a physician, has access to scientific literature, or whatever it is called, and they also have a lot of questions and we discuss it all. Yes, according to her, 3 months have been announced, I agree that it may not have been categorically stated, but as it was written above, for at least 3 months, and most likely due to the fact that they cannot declare too little time and long terms. There is no need to try to present something to me and to convict everyone. But we are not threatened with vaccination in the next few months, so by the time it appears on the Ukrainian horizon, I think there will be much more information.
аватар dusik1981
moy_contakt Nobody asked you when, how to vaccinate and at whose expense. After your statement about the timing, you were asked to give a link, but you allegedly referred to "sister" (in quotation marks because the degree of relationship is not officially confirmed on the forum, with such success I can refer to my cat, which was after me when I read "Lancet"), which told you this, then, as it were, to put it mildly, hinted at "inaccurate translation", you began to talk about vaccination and not apologize for the untruth or inaccuracy as it would be better for you, but wrote a post about the vaccination of the "sister" and the place where she lives. This is called bustling or "filling in" as it will be more convenient for someone. This is not the first time they have pointed out a lie to you, remember what you wrote about antibiotics and not only. It's better to give information from trusted sources, or with a link where you can read it.
аватар moy_contakt
Dear dusik1981, this is just a tourist forum, not a forum of professors of medicine or scientists in the field of pharmacology. Here everyone can write their point of view, express their opinion and is not obliged to prove anything to anyone, and even more so to apologize for something (well, unless of course this is not a case of personal insult, and then, this is the case). Therefore, your claims are incomprehensible and not accepted. If you don’t like it, don’t read it, but you consider yourself a great know-it-all and have repeatedly entered into a skirmish here .... You apparently made a mistake with the forum. Find a topic with a honey orientation and argue there as much as you like, but here about something else, and everything is much simpler.
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