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"And perhaps the current virus will be a lesser evil compared to what lies ahead."
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Yes, China has already made a couple of statements over the past week in the spirit that "our mice still have a lot of viruses that can be transmitted to humans." To me, this is a clear-cut threat.
And it is not clear why the world's leading players have not yet crushed China with lawsuits and fines. Trump just tried something like that, but he was quickly pushed aside and presented as crazy.
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Yes, China has already made a couple of statements over the past week in the spirit that "our mice still have a lot of viruses that can be transmitted to humans." To me, this is a clear-cut threat.
And it is not clear why the world's leading players have not yet crushed China with lawsuits and fines. Trump just tried something like that, but he was quickly pushed aside and presented as crazy.
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in.ki you have a lot of options not to read my heresy) leave and you will be happy. Now, according to your heresy, you are kind of in control there ... I will upset you, not all and not always. A simple example, infection with AIDS and hepatitis C is also possible through blood transfusion. Very often there are situations when there is simply no blood or there is not enough blood (I know what I’m talking about, I was transfused three times and the last time it was a direct transfusion, the doctor became my donor. It’s good that the doctors are regularly examined and that’s not a guarantee. I then during the year handed over, just in case, an analysis for hepatitis and AIDS in order to exclude infection). But at the moment when they were looking for a donor, no one asked me, they just saved my life. Control? Well, yes:)
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Again, everything is in one pile)
There are many terrible, deadly diseases, but maybe they are not so contagious?
There are many contagious diseases, but maybe they are not so deadly?
But in covid it came together - the contagiousness is high, the mortality rate is high. You say - not too high. I will tell -
All attempts by the government are aimed at one goal - to ensure the availability of the healthcare system in a pandemic.
The medical system is no longer accessible. People are dying. Some die from covid (well, say covid-deniers, they were sick, old, underexamined...), others from the inability to get medical care (well, say covid-denials, they were sick, old, underexamined...)
Any quarantines will not stop the virus, but they will stop the wave-like spread, which means that those who will need help will survive and receive it on time.
It's like saying - "people are drowning in the sea, this is normal" and not evacuate the inhabitants of the coast with an impending tsunami.
There are many terrible, deadly diseases, but maybe they are not so contagious?
There are many contagious diseases, but maybe they are not so deadly?
But in covid it came together - the contagiousness is high, the mortality rate is high. You say - not too high. I will tell -
All attempts by the government are aimed at one goal - to ensure the availability of the healthcare system in a pandemic.
The medical system is no longer accessible. People are dying. Some die from covid (well, say covid-deniers, they were sick, old, underexamined...), others from the inability to get medical care (well, say covid-denials, they were sick, old, underexamined...)
Any quarantines will not stop the virus, but they will stop the wave-like spread, which means that those who will need help will survive and receive it on time.
It's like saying - "people are drowning in the sea, this is normal" and not evacuate the inhabitants of the coast with an impending tsunami.
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While you are comparing the private and the general, there will be no consensus)
1,845,000 deaths in a year is a lot.
85 million infected is a lot
25 million sick people is a lot.
So it makes no sense to compare with other diseases, they do not concern such a large number of people.
1,845,000 deaths in a year is a lot.
85 million infected is a lot
25 million sick people is a lot.
So it makes no sense to compare with other diseases, they do not concern such a large number of people.
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A total of 1.4 million people died from TB in 2019 (including 208,000 people living with HIV). Worldwide, TB is one of the top 10 causes of death and the leading cause of death attributable to any single infectious agent (outpacing HIV/AIDS).
An estimated 10 million people worldwide fell ill with TB in 2019, including 5.6 million men, 3.2 million women and 1.2 million children. Tuberculosis is common in all countries and age groups. Tuberculosis is curable and preventable.
Globally, 1.2 million children fell ill with TB in 2019. Diagnosis and treatment of tuberculosis in children and adolescents can be difficult, and the disease at this age often goes unrecognized by health care workers.......... (WHO data).
It also doesn't seem like much. But for some reason, no one talks about tuberculosis now .......
An estimated 10 million people worldwide fell ill with TB in 2019, including 5.6 million men, 3.2 million women and 1.2 million children. Tuberculosis is common in all countries and age groups. Tuberculosis is curable and preventable.
Globally, 1.2 million children fell ill with TB in 2019. Diagnosis and treatment of tuberculosis in children and adolescents can be difficult, and the disease at this age often goes unrecognized by health care workers.......... (WHO data).
It also doesn't seem like much. But for some reason, no one talks about tuberculosis now .......
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probably because we know how to live with it. and treat. and it is not transmitted so volatilely ...
yes, they don’t say, but they don’t stop treating patients
yes, they don’t say, but they don’t stop treating patients
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Andrey111, they talk about tuberculosis, even if you don't hear it. Tuberculosis and other diseases are still dealt with by public health. But imagine - there is a war going on, many wounded are being taken to the hospital, tents are being set up, because there is nowhere to put the wounded. Will doctors have time to treat hearts and operate on appendixes?
So, do COVID-denials improve the situation for other diseases that they love to talk about? No, they do not improve, because, by denying precautions, they contribute to an increase in the "wounded", which, in turn, draw the attention of medicine.
So, do COVID-denials improve the situation for other diseases that they love to talk about? No, they do not improve, because, by denying precautions, they contribute to an increase in the "wounded", which, in turn, draw the attention of medicine.
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So it makes no sense to compare with other diseases, they do not concern such a large number of people.
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This is where it gets very controversial. See statistics!
It's just that this virus has shown that medicine is becoming powerless against any such infection. Antibiotics no longer work effectively, because they are stuffed with foods, and our bodies are already used to them. Human immunity is also low. Constant stress, undertreatment, underexamination, etc.
And statistics are such a thing, everything is relative. I remember how severely ill with the flu, whole families. No tests were given, and many did not go to the doctor. At the same time, with the flu, it was not even possible to reach the toilet, not to go somewhere to take a test. How is it happening now. And they died, and the hospitals were overcrowded. There were people in the corridors.
What is happening now is very ambiguous. Someone knows about this, of course. But not us, no matter how much we argue here.
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This is where it gets very controversial. See statistics!
It's just that this virus has shown that medicine is becoming powerless against any such infection. Antibiotics no longer work effectively, because they are stuffed with foods, and our bodies are already used to them. Human immunity is also low. Constant stress, undertreatment, underexamination, etc.
And statistics are such a thing, everything is relative. I remember how severely ill with the flu, whole families. No tests were given, and many did not go to the doctor. At the same time, with the flu, it was not even possible to reach the toilet, not to go somewhere to take a test. How is it happening now. And they died, and the hospitals were overcrowded. There were people in the corridors.
What is happening now is very ambiguous. Someone knows about this, of course. But not us, no matter how much we argue here.
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Antibiotics work effectively. But not for viruses. And normal antibiotics, not chalk from our pharmacies.
People with normal, good immunity are very seriously ill with Covid!
We were among those who had swine flu 11 years ago, with pneumonia, a month's sleep, and so on. So - these are flowers in comparison with covid!
People with normal, good immunity are very seriously ill with Covid!
We were among those who had swine flu 11 years ago, with pneumonia, a month's sleep, and so on. So - these are flowers in comparison with covid!
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"look at the statistics" is like "learn history")
If you have something to say - show the numbers.
Flu is diagnosed without testing. An epidemic is declared and all SARS become influenza.
Statistics never take into account all cases, both for influenza and covid. This is just unreal. After the end of the epidemic, a figure is displayed that takes into account the statistical error.
When the covid pandemic ends and the final statistics are released, it will be clear that today's statistics are greatly reduced.
"look at the statistics" is like "learn history")
If you have something to say - show the numbers.
Flu is diagnosed without testing. An epidemic is declared and all SARS become influenza.
Statistics never take into account all cases, both for influenza and covid. This is just unreal. After the end of the epidemic, a figure is displayed that takes into account the statistical error.
When the covid pandemic ends and the final statistics are released, it will be clear that today's statistics are greatly reduced.
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“So, do covid-deniers improve the situation for other diseases that they love to talk about? No, they don’t, because by denying precautions, they contribute to an increase in the“ wounded ”, which, in turn, draws the attention of medicine.”
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Absolutely agree. I will only add that they are actually of little interest in other diseases, they just want to stop talking about the corona.
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Absolutely agree. I will only add that they are actually of little interest in other diseases, they just want to stop talking about the corona.
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I remember how severely ill with the flu, whole families. No tests were given, and many did not go to the doctor. At the same time, with the flu, it was not even possible to reach the toilet, not to go somewhere to take a test. How is it happening now. And they died, and the hospitals were overcrowded. There were people in the corridors.
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When was this? During a Spanish flu epidemic?
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When was this? During a Spanish flu epidemic?
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My cousin was vaccinated with a Russian vaccine. Let's see what will happen. I'm afraid nothing good will come of it.
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When was this? During a Spanish flu epidemic?
In 2008-2009. We've had two elderly concierges who died of H1N1 influenza pneumonia and one middle-aged, but she had Lyme disease, and then she got the flu.
In 2008-2009. We've had two elderly concierges who died of H1N1 influenza pneumonia and one middle-aged, but she had Lyme disease, and then she got the flu.
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By the way, if you compare it with the flu, almost every year schools and kindergartens are temporarily closed in certain areas where the incidence of influenza exceeds the epidemiological threshold, since children's groups are one of the main breeding grounds for infection. And nothing - no one goes crazy and whistles about the violation of rights.
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“Marsyanchik, whether you are against the closure of the borders or for - it does not matter. People who live in other countries have decided themselves - fuck these savages, who do not value either their own life or someone else's.”
I totally agree. Here you don’t even need to deprive us of visa-free travel, you can simply ban travel as a country with “insufficiently reliable data on the number of infected” and unvaccinated, moreover. And we still have nothing to inculcate.
I totally agree. Here you don’t even need to deprive us of visa-free travel, you can simply ban travel as a country with “insufficiently reliable data on the number of infected” and unvaccinated, moreover. And we still have nothing to inculcate.
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in.ki, It's not up to you to decide who to block. Be tolerant of other opinions. And don't be so negative!
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Nadezda2017, No, it's up to me to decide who to read and who not. You read whoever you want, but I want to blacklist. Hope, what kind of tolerance can we talk about?? Maybe tolerance for those who sneezed viruses on Pachok with all the dire consequences and also sneezes on me and you? Be patient with them, right?
This is not an opinion, but the introduction of confusion and disinformation. The person writes that everything is ok. What is this opinion?
Let people decide for themselves whether they need to take risks, whether they are ready for it physically and financially
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Marsyanchik, people have the right to manage their own lives exclusively, and not the right to pose a risk to someone else. Let them recklessly drink, smoke, sleep with just anyone and subsequently suffer from this, but do not ignore masks and social distance, posing a danger to others.
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Nadezda2017, No, it's up to me to decide who to read and who not. You read whoever you want, but I want to blacklist. Hope, what kind of tolerance can we talk about?? Maybe tolerance for those who sneezed viruses on Pachok with all the dire consequences and also sneezes on me and you? Be patient with them, right?
This is not an opinion, but the introduction of confusion and disinformation. The person writes that everything is ok. What is this opinion?
Let people decide for themselves whether they need to take risks, whether they are ready for it physically and financially
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Marsyanchik, people have the right to manage their own lives exclusively, and not the right to pose a risk to someone else. Let them recklessly drink, smoke, sleep with just anyone and subsequently suffer from this, but do not ignore masks and social distance, posing a danger to others.
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When was this? During a Spanish flu epidemic?
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camomille, you are lucky that it passed by you. And we were sick, hard and for a long time. And among the acquaintances there were deaths from swine flu.
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camomille, you are lucky that it passed by you. And we were sick, hard and for a long time. And among the acquaintances there were deaths from swine flu.
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People who live in other countries themselves decided - what for these savages, who do not value either their own lives or someone else's.
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Pachok, standing ovation. Precisely savages.
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Pachok, standing ovation. Precisely savages.
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and those who rebel in Europe and the Americas, are they civilization?
All people are the same, regardless of where they live. what's here, what's there...
All people are the same, regardless of where they live. what's here, what's there...
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in.ki you have a lot of options not to read my heresy) leave and you will be happy
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my_contakt, you will retire. Here we talked. A lot of negative examples with covid - but others are ok, and they "confuse all of Paris." Urine as God's dew in the eye.
Now, according to your heresy, you are kind of in control there ... I will upset you, not all and not always. A simple example, infection with AIDS and hepatitis C is also possible through blood transfusion
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moy_contakt, I'll tell you. If you don’t eat any garbage before a stomach ulcer with bleeding occurs, don’t rummage around with oncos and don’t start cancer until it collapses with bleeding, don’t run across the freeway and thereby avoid injury with bleeding, monitor your mental health and don’t grab a razor to ticking veins is a huge chance to avoid the need for a (potentially infected) blood transfusion. But controlling health is tedious, many people want to live carefree and go with the flow. Therefore, it is easier to calm down that everything is ok.
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my_contakt, you will retire. Here we talked. A lot of negative examples with covid - but others are ok, and they "confuse all of Paris." Urine as God's dew in the eye.
Now, according to your heresy, you are kind of in control there ... I will upset you, not all and not always. A simple example, infection with AIDS and hepatitis C is also possible through blood transfusion
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moy_contakt, I'll tell you. If you don’t eat any garbage before a stomach ulcer with bleeding occurs, don’t rummage around with oncos and don’t start cancer until it collapses with bleeding, don’t run across the freeway and thereby avoid injury with bleeding, monitor your mental health and don’t grab a razor to ticking veins is a huge chance to avoid the need for a (potentially infected) blood transfusion. But controlling health is tedious, many people want to live carefree and go with the flow. Therefore, it is easier to calm down that everything is ok.
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Pachok, swine and bird flu remember. At that time we were still planning to go to Lviv and, out of fright, canceled the trip at the last moment, because. there were rumors that the outbreak was in Western Ukraine. But, is what happened then, can be compared with what is happening now? These are different orders of magnitude. Maybe I'm wrong, but then there was no talk of repurposing hospitals or quarantine measures across the country at all. And the problem disappeared by itself.
Now I have an uncle - my mother's brother and his wife are sick with covid-pneumonia. Both celebrated the New Year in the hospital. They are seriously ill, but, thank God, there is already a positive trend.
Now I have an uncle - my mother's brother and his wife are sick with covid-pneumonia. Both celebrated the New Year in the hospital. They are seriously ill, but, thank God, there is already a positive trend.
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"look at the statistics" is like "learn history")
If you have something to say - show the numbers.
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Apyatka, here are some statistics for TODAY:
Today, 27,742 people died from infectious diseases in the world.
From coronovirus - 3 985,
Children under 5 years old - 16 254,
From Speed - 3 597
From cancer 17 579..
The data changes every second.
If you have something to say - show the numbers.
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Apyatka, here are some statistics for TODAY:
Today, 27,742 people died from infectious diseases in the world.
From coronovirus - 3 985,
Children under 5 years old - 16 254,
From Speed - 3 597
From cancer 17 579..
The data changes every second.
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nadezda2017, these statistics are juggling.
Infectious diseases - a lot. You can’t compare statistics on covid with statistics on all infectious diseases combined. In addition, covid is also an infectious disease, so 27742 includes all deaths from covid.
Children also died from diseases (+, I suppose, from accidents) from all organs and systems.
Cancer also affects various organs, under its gun - the whole body. If 17579 died from, say, lung cancer, then we can already conclude: yes, covid was not even close. And then there are all the crabs.
Such comparative statistics - a la "One went to school, and the other in galoshes", cannot be compared like that.
Only AIDS is correlated.
Infectious diseases - a lot. You can’t compare statistics on covid with statistics on all infectious diseases combined. In addition, covid is also an infectious disease, so 27742 includes all deaths from covid.
Children also died from diseases (+, I suppose, from accidents) from all organs and systems.
Cancer also affects various organs, under its gun - the whole body. If 17579 died from, say, lung cancer, then we can already conclude: yes, covid was not even close. And then there are all the crabs.
Such comparative statistics - a la "One went to school, and the other in galoshes", cannot be compared like that.
Only AIDS is correlated.
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4146 deaths so far today in covid statistics. A large number of countries have not submitted statistics today. France, Spain, Colombia... What does that mean? This means that by the end of the day the statistics will double. And these people have already infected new ones, because they believed that they were healthy two days before they felt the disease. And they were infected by those who believed that they were healthy two days before they felt the symptoms.
Such a cycle.
Watch https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
And understand, finally, that most infectious diseases are not contagious. It seems to me that I have already chewed it so much that even a first-grader understands that the contact and mortality of covid is very, very high. All diseases with a mortality rate higher than covid are not so contagious, and all diseases more contagious than covid are not so deadly.
4146 deaths so far today in covid statistics. A large number of countries have not submitted statistics today. France, Spain, Colombia... What does that mean? This means that by the end of the day the statistics will double. And these people have already infected new ones, because they believed that they were healthy two days before they felt the disease. And they were infected by those who believed that they were healthy two days before they felt the symptoms.
Such a cycle.
Watch https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
And understand, finally, that most infectious diseases are not contagious. It seems to me that I have already chewed it so much that even a first-grader understands that the contact and mortality of covid is very, very high. All diseases with a mortality rate higher than covid are not so contagious, and all diseases more contagious than covid are not so deadly.
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When the arguments run out, that's all it starts)) A classic of the genre. moy_contakt, trolling, sticking a diagnosis - it's a simple matter on the Internet) I won't be surprised if you take off your pants and show your opponent the op. Is there really anything to say? Or am I talking to a minor who doesn't care what to write?
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It seems to me that I have already chewed so much that a first-grader understands
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Apyatka, the trouble is that today the discussions are not conducted for the sake of truth, therefore, no matter how much they chew - "The woman kept shouting" shorn. "People want to live carefree, not worry about anything and not hear about any covid, they are tired, they are tired, it spoils their mood. For a year now, it has been chewed from each iron what the role of the mask is - but no, at the next forum I read: “Well, did the mask save you, the sick, from covid?” Hair on end from such a degree of ignorance and stubborn unwillingness to listen and hear, it’s hard for people to breathe through a mask, their face dies, and the corporate worker needs to be kicked off. It remains only to spit, grind and flee from such elements, but I can’t avoid, then beat verbally and drive away from myself - so far I don’t see any other way out .
God forbid (God forbid), a vaccine will be brought to Ukraine - a new wave of conspiracy theories will begin. Something has not been heard of fighters for trampled freedom for a long time - I foresee, temporarily.
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Apyatka, the trouble is that today the discussions are not conducted for the sake of truth, therefore, no matter how much they chew - "The woman kept shouting" shorn. "People want to live carefree, not worry about anything and not hear about any covid, they are tired, they are tired, it spoils their mood. For a year now, it has been chewed from each iron what the role of the mask is - but no, at the next forum I read: “Well, did the mask save you, the sick, from covid?” Hair on end from such a degree of ignorance and stubborn unwillingness to listen and hear, it’s hard for people to breathe through a mask, their face dies, and the corporate worker needs to be kicked off. It remains only to spit, grind and flee from such elements, but I can’t avoid, then beat verbally and drive away from myself - so far I don’t see any other way out .
God forbid (God forbid), a vaccine will be brought to Ukraine - a new wave of conspiracy theories will begin. Something has not been heard of fighters for trampled freedom for a long time - I foresee, temporarily.
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"People want to live carefree, not worry about anything and not hear about any covid, they are tired, they are tired, they spoil their mood ......... "- this is elementary human psychology. This is how the majority argues (I will not discuss now whether this is correct or not), and nothing can be done about it.
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