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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар Marsyanchik
In.ki, you just attack very aggressively and get personal. Whatever your opinion, it's just an opinion, not the truth of God (in the last resort). The world is not a monosyllabic thing at all, so there is no need to worry so much. Well, I call for respect for the forum participants!
аватар nadezda2017
nadezda2017, these statistics are juggling.
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in.ki, this can be said about any statistics, including from the coronovirus.
For myself, I can say that I am not a covid-denier. This is the first.
Quarantine measures do not scare me. This is the second. There are kinks, in some cases to insanity. But there are benefits to some measures, and I don't mind if they remain after the quarantine.
аватар moy_contakt
in.ki what kind of diagnoses, what are you, I’m not a doctor - I don’t make diagnoses, I don’t write prescriptions, but if incomprehensible aggression comes against me, with incomprehensible conclusions, I think it’s easier to give in and let go with God :). I’ll add, on the topic of transfusions (because the list was long, but the reasons why women, and many, face it, were never listed, but I wish you of course not to encounter this - postpartum hemorrhage, well, this is specifically my case). On this specifically, I close the topic with you, once again health :)
аватар Pachok
and those who rebel in Europe and the Americas, are they civilization?
All people are the same, regardless of where they live. what's here, what's there...
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Yes, but "there" the state works. Fines, bans, restrictions are real, and not for show.
And we, unfortunately, met two factors - and the state can do nothing, and people are their own enemies.
аватар Slav_na
pachok,
I agree with this. but! - that is, after all, the matter is in the state, and not in savage people
аватар Slav_na
Who knows if this is true or fake? I was thrown off my gishpans. where they got it from - they don’t remember ... holidays, chowder)))
= The European Union introduces its vaccine European passports, strictly tying the issuance of Schengen visas to them. Only those citizens of foreign countries, including Russia, who show covid passports with a mark on vaccination with drugs certified in Europe, that is, Moderna and Pfizer, will be able to count on a visa to the EU. Neither Sputnik-V nor Vector are included in the EU-certified category, which means that they become internal use vaccines that do not give the right to enter the EU countries according to the new passport and epidemiological rules =
аватар Marsyanchik
And today I read on Ukrnet that the European Union has postponed the mandatory paid entry permit for citizens of third countries (pre-registration in the system 4 days before the trip, with filling out the questionnaire with your data, 7 euros) until 2022.
Does this mean that by 2022 there are no plans to let third countries into the EU at all?
аватар Sergey_7979
YaSlavnaYa,
very plausible
аватар Pachok
Something is better than nothing. You didn’t think that Pfaser or Modern would fall on our heads now?
аватар Marsyanchik
It seems to me that Modern is our everything. You can’t count on Pfizer because of the insufficient amount for the EU itself.
аватар Sergey_7979
pachok,
has already fallen, but not all of course.
For white people - Pfizer, servants - Sputnik:
https://censor.net/ru/news/3240521/v_ukrainu_tayino_zavezli_vaktsinu_pfizer_eyu_vaktsiniro valis_predstaviteli_vlasti_brodskiyi/sortby/tree/order/asc/page/1#comment_7 5381505
I wonder how they carried it in their luggage? There is no real information about portable (portable) refrigerators at -70 C, a serious compressor is needed there, and it weighs far from 20 kg
аватар Sergey_7979
I also tend to Modern because of the lower storage temperature.
I think that by March there will be more import channels, offers, too, and the price in private shops will drop to 100-300 euros. Naturally, only Sputnik will be officially available and, if you're lucky, the Chinese Sinovak (the previous generation vaccine, which was developed long before the appearance of the coronovirus and could only theoretically fight it)
аватар Pachok
Brodsky lumped everything together - Israel, antibodies, illegal charter ... No, of course, I understand that nothing is impossible, but it feels like he is delirious. Those who have been ill, for example, have antibodies, while those who have been vaccinated will have them fully only after 40 days, i.e. 10 years after the second dose, what was he going to look for in Shmyhal's blood? Where did the charter come from, who sold them a vaccine that is not freely available anywhere?
аватар Sergey_7979
Interesting information for fans of "Sputnik". For some reason, he is not surprised that he comes from the secret services:
https://censor.net/be/news/3240514/rf_skryvaet_uchastie_podsanktsionnogo_instituta_mo_rf_v _sozdanii_vaktsiny_sputnik_v_smi
If it's not a biological weapon, then what is it?
аватар Marsyanchik
And what do you hear about Modern? Why don't they sell their vaccine to Europe? Everyone is talking about Pfizer.
аватар Slav_na
that is, it is no longer China, but Russia?
everything is more wonderful and more wonderful ... (c)
аватар tsyriksv
FU-ZHARA lives up to its name!!!
I turned to this company because another company could not find a tour with a departure from Zaporozhye. Here they are, unfortunately! When booking a ticket, we were not given clear answers to many questions. First of all, we found out the main thing for ourselves - this is insurance and WHAT it covers. Irina explained to us that there was a case when a man had a PCR test that showed a positive result and he was fully refunded the cost of the tour. Without checking the veracity of the situation, but believing the word of the "experienced" manager, they paid.
To my deepest regret, my test turned out to be positive, although I did not experience any symptoms or ailments. Immediately, at 8:00 am, I called Irina back and asked for help with my next steps. The answer "I don't owe you anything and I won't meet with you, because it's not safe" me (to put it mildly) dumbfounded!!! This is a professional who was obliged to sort out WHAT you should do next. But, alas!!! Next, we went to the director
аватар tsyriksv
Then we went to the director of the travel agency. He came to us only at 13.00! We are not stupid people, we did all our actions ourselves. The so-called "director" Berezovsky also explained to us that they are nobody, and we gave our money to the tour operator ANEX Tour. Reminding him that time is running out for minutes and that we need to lay out our vouchers "burning" as soon as possible in order to return our funds, we heard the brilliant words of the grabber: "The vouchers are paid and no one will do anything! The human factor is one thing, but business is different! We also asked to postpone the trip for a week (many companies did this, because it was a force majeure and our friends rested at another time), but they didn’t want to do this either! Now, two weeks after the end of the tour, ANEX Tour has reported that we have the wrong insurance! Although the AntiCOVID + NonDepartureSTANDARD program is also written on it. Now there's a long legal battle ahead! So, if you want, contact these "businessmen"!
аватар dusik1981
Marsyanchik, go to the EMA website read, today they officially gave a "good " for the use of Modern.
for fans of "Censor ", "Vector " all hours engaged in the development of both weapons and tank drugs. As for Mr. Brodsky, it is better for him to play basketball than to be a medical "Expert", it is necessary to have an idea of ​​what a portable refrigerator is, and there the compressor will not save, because in a normal car refrigerator up to temperature The disadvantages are usually two compressors, ask in those hospitals where there are refrigerators, how they work and what is needed.
I'm just wondering when the government will give an answer to "Biolek ", if there will be good. It will also be possible to start 50 cases against someone in a few years, and they will not be broken doors. But something like that ...
аватар Marsyanchik
dusik1981, thanks for the good news!
аватар Sergey_7979
The final chord on the possibility of tourist travel in the era of the coronavirus:
https://censor.net/be/news/3241227/svidetelstva_o_vaktsinatsii_ot_koronavirusa_mogut_vydav at_tolko_posle_privivki_pfizer_lyashko
аватар dusik1981
Sergey_7979 so you "America is not discovered ", because of the re-education of WHO vaccines, and in our medical legislation is written. If, for example, a person is vaccinated with a drug that is not "approved by the WHO ", the doctor has no right to enter all the data on the vaccine in the patient's card. Now the Chinese are at the last stage with their vaccine, and we'll see. What is written in the article, medical professionals have all known since the 70s of the 20th century.
аватар Apyatka
Now you can buy a negative test with a certificate for the trip. We will wait a bit and it will be possible to buy a certificate of vaccination.
We live in the best country in the world
аватар mishatour
Apyatka, but I thought that the vaccine was for not getting sick. And it turns out in order to buy it). I thought about the consequences and compared them with buying a driver's license. I found a lot in common, and there and there are dangers for myself. How slow people around ...
аватар mishatour
For yourself and for others*
аватар nadezda2017
In order not to get sick, the vaccine must be done regularly. Immunity from it is enough for 3-6 months. And no one guarantees that after it you will not get sick. And there is no guarantee that next year some new infection will not fall on us. Somehow the prospect of being vaccine-dependent is not at all encouraging.
аватар mishatour
nadezda2017 officially, none of the companies producing the vaccine has announced the timing of its validity !!!! Estimated 1-2 years. If you have another solution to the problem... the Nobel Prize is waiting for you.
аватар nadezda2017
Neither company has announced the effects of this vaccine, either short-term or long-term. Some guesses....
аватар dusik1981
Dear readers, read the specialized medical literature and interviews of specialists and owners of manufacturing companies. Then there will be no questions. For the first two current vaccines give immunity for at least 3 months, after vaccination no one promised that no one will, the vaccine will give a mild course of the disease, so in most countries and vaccinated in the first place, you know the contingent. As for the provision of vaccines, currently two manufacturers will be able to produce no more than 1.3 billion doses per year. It is not advisable to build additional plants. All this was said by the director of Modern in an interview with French media.
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