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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар Apyatka
There is no need to hurry with the vaccine yet. Neither Russian nor Pfizer.
аватар Marsyanchik
Apyatka, explain why.
аватар mishatour
You don't have to rush, but you also don't want to be late.
аватар Apyatka
Marsyanchik, because there are no long-term results. Roughly speaking, everyone who is being vaccinated now is participating in the last stage of research.
аватар nadezda2017
I agree with Apyatka. And these long-term results may make themselves felt when everyone has already forgotten about this coronovirus and this vaccine. It is not known which mechanisms in the body they can turn on and which ones to turn off.
There is still no clear answer as to how harmless stem cell treatment and IVF are.
All vaccines, except for Sputnik, were created using a new technology that has not yet been explored.
аватар mishatour
Here's what independent experts say...
https://www.vesty.co.il/main/article/Hk768ud2D
аватар nadezda2017
mishatour, it does not say "independent" specialists, but "leading" ones.
Each manufacturer and leading experts will naturally advertise and praise Their vaccine. It's hard to argue about the effectiveness of the vaccine. Of course it must be effective! The question is how often it will have to be done, and what are the long-term consequences.
We have heard about medicine in Israel. And something tells me that the Israeli vaccine may be the best.
аватар dusik1981
https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2021/01/13/7279727/ here is the answer about vaccines, what they are based on what they are made, etc. to not write 10 posts and not explain each term
аватар mishatour
nadezda2017, called them 'independent " because they work in places that are not related to Pfizer. They have no financial or official dependence on Pfizer. In addition, most experts speaking in the media say approximately the same thing. Of course medicine is not an exact science and the truth in it is tested by time ... Only if we have it .. If you paid attention, then each of the scientists expresses his opinion and does not give any 100% guarantees ... All this and the fact that all these people have already taken root .... it causes some kind of optimism ...
аватар nadezda2017
Vaccines from Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech use innovative messenger RNA technology. Before the coronavirus, no vaccine created using this technology was approved for use in humans ..... Quote.
There is nothing you can do when you have to start.
The use of these vaccines is approved as emergency use, due to the fact that clinical trials have not yet been completed.
mishatour, did you sign any paper? Pre-vaccination receipt?
аватар _359975
Where can I get a test certificate for leaving quickly?
аватар Apyatka
_359975 in Boryspil, at the airport
аватар mishatour
.nadezda2017, No, I didn't sign it. What sources are you citing? I don’t understand vaccines ... and I don’t understand your quote .... I read other sources that say that this method was known 20 years ago. But there were problems at the final stage of development. Today, when the technology has "grown up" for 20 years, this method has been successfully completed. The vaccine is approved for use by the most authoritative regulators in the world. I understand your fears and doubts... I will only give you one piece of advice, do not trust those who guarantee the safety of the vaccine for 100 years. See what is happening around you, which countries are buying which vaccine ... which of the reputable people have already been vaccinated and with what. The other day, the British royal family took root ... (queen 94, husband 99) I hope that I don’t look like an advertising agent or teacher .. I express my opinion in the hope that it is correct ...
аватар nadezda2017
mishatour, I envy your optimism. Perhaps you live in the right country where everything is for the people. We often have to deal with the opposite. Hence fears and doubts.
Moreover, there is a lot of conflicting information.
аватар dusik1981
This is what Brazilians say about the satellite
аватар Sergey_7979
Well, thick wallets for a place in the queue for accelerated vaccination:
https://censor.net/be/news/3243102/na_kommercheskom_rynke_legalnaya_vaktsina_ot_koronaviru sa_poyavitsya_k_letu_stepanov/sortby/tree/order/asc/page/1#comment_75493608
Everything, as I warned a month ago: the excitement, similar to the excitement for speeding up the production of foreign bio-passports
аватар dusik1981
And I wonder who to trust Stepanov or Lyashko? Stepanov says that the vaccine will appear by the summer, and Lyashko talks about the commercial vaccine not earlier than the beginning of the second half of the year. Summer begins on June 1, and the second half of the year - on July 1. And if we take into account the facts where Stepanov stated live, not true. It is unlikely that the paid vaccine will appear before the beginning of summer and closer to the end of summer. But again, there is a factor where Pfizer will increase the production of vaccines, and Europeans do not need the purchased quantities, and if they want to "share" then in late spring to appear.
аватар Marsyanchik
https://rg.ru/2020/12/17/v-voz-opasaiutsia-sryva-globalnoj-programmy-vakcinacii-ot-cov id-19.html
Well, it says here that vaccines under Covax (providing vaccines to low-income countries) will be cheaper counterparts. This is Astra Zeneca, Indian vaccine, johnson & johnson. Any unverified bullshit, sorry.
аватар dusik1981
for a person who asks what is "ELISA", to understand - the vaccine is not a monetary equivalent, but% efficiency, and cost is a very collective concept, because there is such a thing as wages in one country, it may be lower than in another, but the quality may not be inferior to the cost analogue. For some reason, people buy Chinese products and not only European, but something like that.
аватар nadezda2017
Looking at all this vaccination bullshit, it might be easier and cheaper to get into healthcare. Learn to treat, create normal hospitals, raise the prestige of medical workers. The virus will still go ahead, no vaccine will get ahead of it. The life and health of people must be put above all else. It is time for the heads of governments, and those who rule them, to start raising the standard of living of the people, to stop pushing people together on national, religious and other grounds. To provide the people with peace and tranquility, confidence in the future, and universal access to medicine.
And then, again, it turns out that someone dies from this infection, and someone earns billions on this.
аватар Slav_na
Do you think the "delayed death syndrome" after covid is another scarecrow in the media? really tight...
аватар dusik1981
If you weigh the "Syndrome" or something else, perhaps more than 80% of the post-Soviet space all their lives live with it. kept, and where they were photographed in the coffin, that the posthumous picture was beautiful. I remember one case when a young district heart attack earned so much, the seam in the village decided to check "his ward " that was not in the house, but there was a grandmother in the coffin. So if you weigh something faster place in the "yellow house " you need to book, not rooms through booking :))
аватар Slav_na
everything is clear with our "doctor".
the main thing is to know what ELISA is
аватар dusik1981
The main thing is to know the topic, and even the chocolate factory will appear 200 km from the place where it is located, and people can go there and here, or say that a person may need an "unofficial crossing " admin. limits, although in the diet it was not, and much more can be found.
аватар Apyatka
Haha, we are born with delayed death syndrome and live with delayed life syndrome)
And there are already so many scarecrows around that either you need to collect a suitcase or filter it somehow in a psychiatric hospital. There are things we can control, and there are things we can't. The second is better not to even think about.
аватар Pachok
There is a London covid and it is already being investigated, as well as a post covid. Complications are also very diverse. The doctor persistently advised us to monitor coagulograms during the illness and after it for a month.
аватар Pachok
Didn't finish.
Among our friends, we have a case when a 50-year-old man suffered a mild covid, fully recovered, and died from a blood clot a month later. Before that, health was without question, due to the profession, serious annual monitoring.
If this is considered a delayed death, then yes, there are complications leading to death immediately or over time.
аватар Slav_na
delayed death syndrome, if someone does not understand, is when a disease that has been experienced and seems to be defeated gives a complication to the underlying disease
about 20% of people after covid get complications from underlying diseases.
12.5% ​​die.
world statistics.
say that people are 65+.
perhaps kuysymya - pennies, who needs them?! if you forget, of course, that these are our parents ...
аватар Slav_na
Pachok,
By the way, yes! before the illness, no one demanded a coagulogram from her husband. Now it's every 2 weeks! without it, they don’t even put them in the register ... well, covid, and so on ...
аватар Pachok
We were treated by a private doctor, on the recommendation of several friends who also had been ill under her supervision. Coagulogram, D-dimer and CRH were taken from her all and several times. Depending on the results, anticoagulants were prescribed to everyone in different and different doses - from a weak cardiomagnyl tablet to Xarelto. According to the CBR - antibiotics, different for different concomitant diseases.
In occasion of health - it will be interesting to pass or take place complex inspection in couple of months. While some strange things are happening, not bad, just strange.
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