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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар nadezda2017
........It should be noted that (MVC) associated with COVID-19 is not a common disease in children, but some children may show clinical symptoms similar to Kawasaki disease after coronavirus infection, and the disease is severe with signs of inflammation of the heart muscle, the development of aneurysms of the coronary arteries and damage to other organs and systems......
It turns out that this coronovirus is not so safe for children.
It is not known what consequences can be expected from it in both adults and children.
аватар Sergey_7979
Pachok, disik1981:
I meant that V. Klitschko seeks to get vaccines in the United States for Kyivans due to his personal connections.
And those who are V. Klitschko celebrities (celebrities) - I think no one will argue
аватар dusik1981
Sergey_7979,
and what's wrong with that. A person not only takes care of his status, but also does something because of his status. Who prevents other communities from connecting "their majestic countrymen "?
аватар Pachok
Sergey_7979 there is a difference "for celebrity" and "thanks to connections for ordinary people". He does everything right, if the government is not able (where are their "connections", by the way?), then he himself has the right to take care of the people who elected him as their mayor and pay taxes to the city budget. In an interview, it was said that the city council must agree to the purchase at the expense of the city budget. I don't see any contradictions. This is a shame for the president and prime minister, but not for Klitschko.
аватар mishatour
With all due respect to Klitschko (as an athlete), his statement is pure "populism". First of all, because American vaccine manufacturers do not enter into contracts with private individuals, it is necessary to have special freezers for storage (Pfeizer-70). Yes, and you should not overestimate the authority of Klitschko ... this is not Kasius Clay and not Pele. A non-serious statement and there is no point in discussing it.
аватар Pachok
Neither the manufacturer nor the name of the vaccine was announced, just as the United States was not mentioned there in principle. And the "contract with private individuals" is pure fantasy, if everything works out, the city will buy it. Whether this is serious or not will soon become clear.
Yes, this is not Cassius Clay, he was not the mayor of Washington and he has one less knockout victory than Klitschko and 3 more defeats :)))
аватар mishatour
Klitschko: Kyiv to buy 1 million doses of coronavirus vaccine from American and European companies
Pacho, this is the title of the article cited above. As far as I understand, we are talking about American companies. In order to bring drugs, vaccines to the country ... you usually need a permit from the Ministry of Health. Although there you can use ... connections. Contracts manufacturers enter into contracts with states that are ready to guarantee the proper use of the vaccine and the public is aware of the side effects. Vaccination in all countries is a state program and it is not necessary to make a "savior" of someone who wants to save the chosen ones for public money.
аватар Pachok
Money - from the city budget, that is, the people of Kiev to save the people of Kiev. Kyiv is the largest city in Ukraine, there is the largest number of doctors, teachers, firefighters, etc. here. And the largest number of people from health risk groups.
Manufacturers are private companies, if you have information that they have the right to sell vaccines only to states, please link to a decent source.
The permission of the Ministry of Health is called registration, a Registration Certificate is issued. It is not very difficult, I think in the current situation no one will simply dare to delay the issuance of a certificate.
But, I repeat, one can assume anything, but time will tell whether it was populism or not. By the way, the elections have just passed, Klitschko could relax for a couple, but for some reason he does not.
аватар mishatour
On January 11, the Pfizer press service told Interfax that in 2021 they would supply the COVID-19 vaccine developed with BioNTech only under state agreements. At the same time, they said that they were considering the possibility of applying for registration of their vaccine in the Russian Federation.
https://www.interfax.ru/moscow/745380
аватар dusik1981
There is certification for vaccines, not registration. In Ukraine, it meets the parameters of the WHO. And taking into account all factors, all current vaccines could not be certified until January 26, but the Verkhovna Rada passed a law to simplify certification and include in the list of vaccines that can be used in Ukraine. "Sputnik-V " there are bans to include, so officially while the Russian vaccine in Ukraine can not be allowed to use. This is due to the fact that now, according to a simplified procedure, covid vaccines can be imported to Ukraine, except for Russian ones. So if any company, entrepreneur, community or ordinary person has the funds, it will be able to bring the vaccine to Ukraine, and if it meets all the requirements to obtain certification. So Klitschko can buy and more. As for Mr. Klitschko, read one of his interviews to the American media, and it will become clear why he is so worried about vaccines.
аватар dusik1981
Well, Mr. Shmigal on the "days of questions to the Government " said that Ukraine from COVAX in February will be provided from 100 to 200 thousand doses from Pfizer.
аватар dusik1981
Here is information on free vaccination in Ukraine https://www.kmu.gov.ua/news/vakcinuvannya-lyudej-vid-covid-19-povinne-rozpochatis-u-lyutomu-pre myer-ministr
аватар Slav_na
a moment of humor...
аватар nadezda2017
And I love Singapore! With a population of about 6 million, 59.5 thousand infected. Deaths 29.! Not a single death since August. They treat and pull everyone out, and there are enough beds, and doctors, and ventilators, and the right medicines, and personal protective equipment. Such powerful health care is not afraid of any virus.
аватар nadezda2017
Maybe I don't understand something, but
1) Too little time has passed to talk about the effectiveness of the vaccine.
2) 98.2% efficiency in preventing death - how is that?
At the moment, the mortality rate from coronovirus in Israel (according to statistics) is less than 1%, approximately 0.8%.
Vaccination allows 1.8% of death. Those. more than twice.
3) and I don’t understand at all why they vaccinate those who have already been ill. They make an exception for them, of course. Instead of two doses, make one. People have already been ill, the body is weakened, and there are antibodies.
And lastly, how voluntary is your vaccination?
аватар turkoloff
They will buy a type of vaccine, but where will they be stored? How will they be transported?
There is nothing. It will not be a vaccine, but a poison.
аватар dusik1981
turkoloff, and seen the temperature regime for a particular vaccine? only one manufacturer has a temperature of -70 C, others + 2 + 8 - and this is an ordinary refrigerator, any medical thermo van, there will be no problems with such vaccines, and -70, up to 60 thousand doses, no problem to store in Ukraine , and such a vaccine promises not so much to withstand the cold chain, no problem.
аватар turkoloff
The other day I went to the hospital due to illness. So no one was accepted there. They had no light all day. What are you talking about? There will be no regimen.
аватар mishatour
First of all, thank you for paying attention to the "dry" statistics.
1 Time has passed not SO little. (About 1.5-2) months. The first doses of vaccination were received by 60+ and today the number of patients at this age has significantly decreased, more young people 50- get sick. We started vaccination with approximately 1300 seriously ill patients, today 814. None of them are vaccinated!!!
2. The average mortality rate for the whole year is around 1%, but with the advent of the English strain, the mortality rate has almost doubled. Vaccination occurred during the spread of the English strain. The numbers really do not reflect reality. Some consider the percentage of deaths from the number of patients, others from seriously ill patients, and still others from mortality in the country .... The only thing I can say is that every evening on TV the directors of hospitals report on the sick and there are no vaccinated among them. There were isolated cases.
аватар nadezda2017
And I also liked it, it was understood that one vial should be enough for 5 doses. Now they divide by 6, and even by seven. And it doesn’t matter what weight the vaccinated has, 40 kg or 120. One hope is that the virus from all this nonsense that is happening around it will eventually go crazy and self-destruct.
аватар dusik1981
turkoloff, haven't you heard about generators? They are in hospitals, but whether they use them is another matter.
аватар dusik1981
nadezda2017 vaccine is not calculated on weight, it is a drug that causes immunity in the body. Something I do not remember any vaccine where the annotation says about weight calculations. You are probably confused with drugs for anesthesia, which in most cases take into account weight, but that's another conversation.
аватар mishatour
It also vaccinates those who have been ill .. Many have been ill without symptoms, not knowing that they were ill. There is no compulsory vaccination, but they give a “carrot”)
аватар turkoloff
so there is a pharmacy on the ground floor, and apparently there are medicines in the refrigerator. I didn’t hear the noise of the generator there and didn’t see the light anywhere. Because if there is a generator, then it is most likely gathering dust somewhere in the garage.
or the boss at the dacha))
аватар turkoloff
Maybe you have everything in Kyiv and it works as it should, I do not argue. In our hospital, I definitely wouldn't risk getting vaccinated.
аватар dusik1981
turkoloff, and who prevents you from officially contact the institution and ask about the storage of vaccines. You have such a right, and whether you will use it or not is another matter.
аватар nadezda2017
dusik1981, but, probably, there is still a difference to get 1/5 of the bubble or 1/7. All the same, someone calculated these doses. Maybe then 1/10 is enough.
аватар dusik1981
nadezda2017 there is a difference, but it is calculated on other indicators, the course of epidemiology and immunology to retell no hour I do not want to, but in short so the figure always hangs 3-4 times, then be able to reduce if necessary (this is common marketing practice, this can be very clearly checked by your favorite guidelines for disinfectants, when a competitor appears, usually the concentration and exposure time are reduced) so 1 to 5 is acceptable practice.
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