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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар Sergey_7979
My_contact:
the main thing is that this reality of the next couple of years does not turn into the reality of the next couple of decades ...
Because, as I described a few days ago, our situation is completely bleak.
Meanwhile, some countries that they believe have achieved some success are gradually opening up to tourists.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2021/03/24/7287720/index.amp
From acquaintances living in Greece, there is information that from 14.05.2021 Greece opens borders to tourists in the presence of a negative PCR test
аватар moy_contakt
Sergey_7979 that is, the fact that most countries require a negative PCR at the entrance does not bother you, but the fact that Ukraine has introduced such a requirement makes you negative??? You are contradicting yourself. I think that this year almost all countries will introduce a requirement for a negative PCR. The same Turkey, which lasted the 2020 season, has not yet canceled it, and the question is whether it will cancel it (they say a lot, but, as far as I know, it has not yet given the final deadline. Maybe I missed something). But at Turkish airports, the system for detecting people with fever works very well. They are given a free test and then decide what to do with such people. Although, in my personal opinion, these tests are complete fiction. A simple personal example. Of all those who had been ill and were currently ill, those who were currently taking a test were negative in those who were 100% with covid (after there was an analysis for antibodies, they were definitely not there before the illness) and positive in people who actually did not get sick and, as a result, no symptoms and antibodies respectively.
аватар moy_contakt
Infa 100%, collected from statistics on a huge food enterprise where people are tested weekly and, at the slightest sign, they are quarantined in order to avoid infection of the entire team.
аватар moy_contakt
I’ll clarify that, according to the above, that negative PCR often gave out in 100% of the sick (here, the period of the test is also important, and again, there were cases with the whole picture of exactly covid confirmed by CT - and PCR is negative) Now my picture is exactly the same acquaintances where the whole family of 8 people is sick (all adults aged 44-47 (2 people) and 65-87 (4 people), we don’t count 2 children, everything is easy and fast with them). PCR was done for everyone (and twice. First express, after standard), positive only in 3 ....... done in the second week of the disease, when the main symptoms went, before that they thought that ARVI. Well, positive in the absence of any symptoms at all ....... not often, but there is. After serving the prescribed 14 days in quarantine, a month later an antibody test and zero. Today it is a great business.
аватар Sergey_7979
Regarding Turkey:
flew to Turkey in October 2021. The temperature scanner at Antalya airport was, but it was OFF. And stood a little away from the tourist passage, all quietly passed by him. No matter how appropriate the sign on it, I myself would not pay attention to this device.
Due to the fact that Cyprus is forced to take a test on arrival at the airport - this means that the test results from our country are not very, so to speak, trusted.
The mythical "vaccination passport " is not mentioned at all, it is likely that this year it will not be
аватар Sergey_7979
Who is against passing the PCR test when returning to Ukraine from the country "green zone " (including (please support:
https://petition.president.gov.ua/petition/114850
аватар Sergey_7979
Water stone sharpen:
https://news.finance.ua/ua/news/-/489847/poezdki-stanut-roskoshyu-stoimost-otdyha-za-granitsej-v ozrastet-eksperty
аватар Sergey_7979
Interesting news:
https://censor.net/be/news/3257975/iz_soobrajeniyi_spravedlivosti_voz_poka_ne_podderjivaet _vvedení_pasportov_vaktsinatsii_dlya_poezdok
аватар Sergey_7979
It looks like I'm being read:
https://news.finance.ua/ru/news/-/490835/pravitelstvo-izmenilo-pravila-peresecheniya-granitsy-dl ya-ukraintsev
At least, changes (unfortunately, not all) were made to the Resolution rather quickly
аватар dusik1981
At one time, at Turpravda, someone asked about Euro 2020, whether to hand in tickets or not. And what a good answer for me https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/articles/2021/04/16/7122219/
аватар Sergey_7979
dusik1981,
the article is a bit outdated.
The original source (www.uefa.com) reports that the deadline for delivery of tickets has been extended to April 26, 2021 inclusive
аватар Sergey_7979
Meanwhile, Montenegro allows Ukrainian citizens to enter without a PCR test.
At the same time, only about 6% of the population in Montenegro has been vaccinated, and vaccination was carried out only with Covischild and SputnikV vaccines.
аватар Bozhyk.nastya
Sergey_7979, do you plan to go like that? I just wonder which countries this bus will go to Montenegro. If you find any information, write)
аватар Sergey_7979
Bozhyk.nastya
No, I do not plan in Montenegro.
I think there will be no buses to this country this year.
Only air charters
аватар Sergey_7979
Interesting:
http://lowcostavia.com.ua/eu-planuye-sprostyty-peretyn-kordonu/
аватар Sergey_7979
Meanwhile, Slovenia (EU, Schengen, NATO) is opening its borders for tourism to Russian citizens. The reason may be the presence of a certificate of vaccination (including the SputnikV vaccine) or provide a negative PCR-Xia (products, including at international airports in Russia).
For citizens of Ukraine - no concessions, still entry into Slovenia for tourism bans :-(
аватар Sergey_7979
Source of information (Slovenian):
https://www.nlzoh.si/objave/priznavanje-rezultatov-testiranj-pri-prehajanju-meja/
аватар Sergey_7979
The first swallow:
http://lowcostavia.com.ua/greece-open-for-ukraine-14-may/
аватар Apyatka
I don't want to open links. Especially when it’s not at all clear whether I need it)
The good news is that Greece has been accepting tourists since May 15th.
аватар dusik1981
Apyatka
just for 10 days the original is here.
and in short it will be so "The decision is valid from 06:00 on May 14, 2021 to 06:00 on May 24, 2021 "
аватар veritasana
Well, well ... but I'm testing for antibodies (for the last 6 months) .. And fortunately they are Ig g ... Why do I need "Vdoma" ... upon arrival ...
аватар Pachok
Antibodies provide no guarantee, but only reduce the likelihood that a person will get sick. And they do not protect against infection and carriage.
аватар moy_contakt
Who would tell that my family had been ill at the end of April 2020 (documented, confirmed by tests) and again in November 2020 (not all family members have tests, but the fact that it was IT is 100%) and everyone has antibodies .... this the virus and it is possible for anyone, including those who are vaccinated, to get sick ... And diya ... having arrived a week ago from vacation and again going through all these procedures, I will say this, now everything is much easier than in July-August 2020, on the phone screen looked, the picture fits, everything, go through, free. 700 UAH test (and not 2800) the speed of the result and withdrawal from the diy pleased. Our realities, you just need to accept this and not injure yourself and your tender psyche ... Honestly, my daughter is abroad and the horror and nightmare that they do there (and the fines are real and the restrictions are not comic and you can’t trample against everything) yes, we have everything norms and there are loopholes and ...... damn it, the child almost died from the appendix, because without a covid analysis they were not taken for hospitalization ... and surgery ... here they are realities. And this is AUSTRIA!!!!! b...t
аватар Olgaolga153
Pachok
Completely agree with you. Now an acquaintance who was vaccinated according to all the rules about two months ago is sick with covid. Elderly, sick at home under the supervision of doctors. For the first few days, the temperature remained at 37.3, then a jump to more than 38. CT showed lung damage (I don’t remember the percentage). Whether the vaccine made the situation easier or not, who knows!?
аватар moy_contakt
Olgaolga153 a case from my own life (tested on my children, so to speak). Remember, a couple of years ago, an active vaccination campaign against measles began (well, there is a complex drug, but of the three components, the emphasis was on measles). Previously (I, my husband, our parents) got sick with it once in childhood, receiving immunity for life. They were not seriously ill (any sore can give complications of any severity, everyone remembers about it). So, in 2018, they flew on vacation and the children got contact (later, by a characteristic cough and rash, I realized that it was a child with measles who was transported on the plane), returning (12 days rested) my son fell ill, after him the youngest. I agreed with my son to be hospitalized because they scared me that everything would be very difficult and bad for us and very soon. They got into boxing where there was already a child who was really bad (vaccinated, mine without vaccination). On the third day, the manager examined us, instructed us on self-isolation and said that there was nothing for us to do in the infectious disease department and since it was not vaccinated children who got sick
аватар moy_contakt
I continue. My son has been sick for a week. Next is the youngest. With her, we no longer went to any hospitals and just as easily and quickly got sick at home. By the way, covid, albeit twice, but we all got sick normally (with our moments, and where without them) and my old people (her husband’s sister was more difficult and difficult in places, but she has a lack of a part of her lungs, a total allergy to everything and everyone and in general and norms. We arranged and cured everything at home. Why am I all of this. I'm not saying that vaccinations are harmful, they helped humanity survive at different times. But now it is primarily a business. Alas.
аватар Olgaolga153
I am generally anti-vaccination. But in connection with the current situation from covid, I still want to put it. Just yet, for one reason or another, it does not add up.
аватар Pachok
I'm all for vaccinations. But not everything is of proven quality. No India, no living polios.
Regarding measles: my 6-year-old daughter and I were in direct contact with a sick person. I was vaccinated almost forty years ago, my daughter according to the calendar, but they did not have time to revaccinate. We didn't get sick. I have titers in the analysis, as after an illness.
As for covid, the examples of Israel and the Seychelles are illustrative. Israel crushed the infection with the help of Pfizer and with almost no complications. Seychelles vaccinated without exception by Kovischild and Sinovac, now they have a very strong outbreak.
Europe refuses Astra Zeneca due to thrombosis.
So we are waiting for Pfizer :)
аватар Olgaolga153
"So we are waiting for Pfizer"
May God grant that EVERYONE waits. We don't have much of a choice, only Sputnik-V. Vectorovsky EpiVakKorona and Chumakovskaya KoviVak are not yet for widespread use. What kind of Pfizer is that? ((
аватар Slav_na
we have a choice - a satellite or an epivac, but my husband's oncologist said - wait. although there are already no nichrome antibodies, anyway - wait
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