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аватар Pachok
And here I read in detail about the difference between mRNA, vector and the only inactivated one, and I’m not so sure that Pfizer is needed ...
аватар klichko
So the mass of people is against everything. Why are there people, many immunologists are anti-vaxxers, Everywhere there are pluses and minuses, yes or no the question of religion. And what to inject ... according to the status, the pfizer works better than others (which means you have to take it))
Family said, in full swing only 60+. What chance have younger? Registered, but getting heatstroke in line is not an option. They can also expand. Enlighten me how everything flows in points
аватар nataha33
klichko, Yesterday I did revaccination with Pfizer at a stationary point in a clinic in Kyiv on Darnitsa. I did it there, because when the mobile teams revaccinated my employees, I was resting in Turkey. My dean sent me there with a list for the second dose certified by a seal (I was the only one on the list). I also had a passport, code, declaration and "years for vaccination ". I arrived at 9 am, the crowd was large, some organized by enterprises, some local by appointment. As a result, 2.5 hours in the general queue. I observed how regularly they were carried out without a queue "their ", for the loot is understandable. In point 2, there are doctors who enter data, and one nurse who gives an injection. The data of those who do not have a declaration were entered by a doctor for 40 minutes per person (two fingers). They did not look at any of my documents, they just took ", filled in by me, entered into the database "Helsea " name and data on the second dose of the vaccine. I have such a suspicion that anyone could come, sit in line and get an injection. )
аватар klichko
nataha33, it's clear that it's dark. It seems that so far only on the Left Bank they inject. Let's wait out the heat, wait for the opening of points and send young people to reconnaissance
On the hotline they said, by appointment they take priority. But it looks like there is a hype for the pfizer. Will have to wait. In the meantime, we will continue to sew laferobion
аватар Igor_m
"sew laferobion" - what are you doing with yourself?
аватар Scurra-2
Nobody in the family got sick. I was vaccinated together with my husband, a coroner. First dose at the exhibition center. We stood in line for a bit this morning. Wear caps and no sunstroke! The second dose was given at the address written on the paper about the first dose. By record. There is no queue. Everything is fast and beautiful. On July 26, we will receive certificates from a family doctor. August 1 in Turkey. August 16 in Cyprus. They were vaccinated to prevent getting sick. The ability to travel is secondary. Although it is necessary to France! After the first dose, I felt sick for 2 days. Temperature 36.7. My husband did not feel sick, nothing hurt at all, but the temperature was 37 days. The vaccination site was a little painful when pressed. After the second dose, I again felt sick for a day, but weaker. Temperature 36.7. The husband, perhaps, did not notice the second dose at all.
аватар klichko
"sew laferobion" - what are you doing with yourself?
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puff) in the nose. We have historically saved ourselves from the flu with interferon and not only. Once there were only injections. I do not impose and I will not explain the mechanism. I also believe in their series, I do not believe it. And thanks for caring)
аватар klichko
were saved by interferon
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Sorry, Interferon
аватар Sergey_7979
Slovenia will release Ukrainian citizens on a negative test, without vaccination !!!
http://lowcostavia.com.ua/slovenia-dozvolyla-vyizd-ukraini-z-testom/
аватар Sergey_7979
Germany opens on July 18 for the citizens of Ukraine, without vaccination, only with a negative test !!!
http://lowcostavia.com.ua/germany-dozvolyt-vyizd-ukrayintsyam-lyshe-z-testom/
аватар Igor_m
Today I went to the IEC for vaccination, arrived an hour before the appointed time (10-40), hundreds of one and a half grandparents began to storm the entrance to paradise. Fifty people were let inside, on the third floor, volunteers sorted six people into booths, where they filled out consent sheets, entered them into the computer (it took me one minute in the absence of a paper declaration), let a couple through, who had been ill before the injection, injected himself, I sat for about fifteen minutes waiting for the reaction of the body, the body said that it was enough to sit, free the room. I went into "Novus ", washed this event with a cup of espresso and went on business to Gostomel. They gave me a piece of paper so that I wouldn’t forget what and when I was injected, the batch number of the vaccine and its expiration date (good, fresh). The next injection will be on August 19 or 20, when I return, having previously signed up on the same resource. Then - to a family doctor with a passport - we get an international certificate. Almost six hours have passed, the body does not show any changes.
аватар nataha33
Igor_m, I'm glad for you that everything worked out! My parents also got vaccinated there on the 3rd floor today. They were the same grandparents who, for some reason, also showed up an hour earlier than the appointed time. ))) They told everything the same as you. For the second dose, they were also told to sign up for the IEC through health.me.
аватар Igor_m
nataha33, not for the sake of traveling abroad, for the sake of defeating the coronavirus infection.
аватар klichko
Igor_m, tse win) Congratulations!
Ticket to heaven only for 60+? In line like young people too, chew plz
аватар Igor_m
Marusya, there were a lot of 60 in the queue - who said that they signed up, but first of all they launched 60+. A guy in his forties said that yesterday his friend waited until his grandparents fell off, and took root without problems. By the way, in the near future, universal vaccination with pfizer and moderna for everyone is expected - the words of the doctor who entered my data into the computer. But, here is a screen of the site helsi.me - you can already be 18 +.
аватар klichko
Thanks Igor. I signed up for helsey, chose the item, the time and a dead window opened (Maybe the item does not work
аватар nataha33
Marusya, wait a couple of weeks and in the same IEC they will start vaccinating everyone 18+ with Pfizer. In Ternopil and Poltava, they are already vaccinated without age restrictions. Now a lot of Pfizer has been brought in, it is difficult to store it, there are actually not so many who want to get vaccinated, so you have to wait quite a bit. ;)
аватар nadin65
Quite right, Poltava to everyone who wants any vaccine, and Pfizer too
аватар Scurra-2
And you can still specify where the entrance to Paradise?
аватар mishatour
A little bit of tar ..... So, in Israel, from June 15, the last restrictions were lifted, wearing masks indoors. But less than a week later, a new DELTA mutation (Indian strain) appeared. And everything starts again, masks. The optimism is that there are few seriously ill patients, but they are even among the vaccinated. Statistics say that the fizer provides protection from DELTA by only 60% (95 ordinary corona) and from severe consequences by 80%. Feiser and Moderna have recently announced that in half a year a vaccine against DELTA will be available.
I don’t even know what conclusion to draw from all that ... And where are all the predictors ... Globs ... maybe they know when it will all end and will it end ???)
аватар nadezda2017
Well, if a vaccine from Delta appears in six months, then by that time a couple of new strains will have been added.
"Spanish flu" after 2 years ended by itself, without vaccination. One hope is that this virus will blow itself away from all this insanity. Maybe we need to look for another way, learn how to treat it!
As far as vaccines are concerned, it is already clear that they do not live up to expectations. And the fact that the vaccinated are guaranteed not to die is a weak and dubious consolation. Hopefully, these vaccines will at least do no harm.
аватар Pachok
https://www.facebook.com/profalexkukharchuk/posts/1436265200099808
On the mechanism of action of different types of vaccines. So far only one has been inactivated - Koronavak, no matter how ridiculous.
аватар Slav_na
nadezda2017 ,
"Spanish flu" after 2 years ended on its own, without vaccination. === I would very much like it to be for us - not according to Nekrasov)))
in the sense of "it's only a pity - to live in this wonderful time ..."
аватар nadezda2017
Watch the 2010 Pandemic of Lies documentary. You can believe it, you can not, but there is a topic for reflection there.
аватар Igor_m
Scurra-2, "paradise" is located in pavilion number 4, to which the path lies along Nikolsko-Slobodskaya on the side of "Novus", the second gate. It is impossible to miss there, there are signs.
аватар Olgaolga153
In the Russian Federation, they continue to actively vaccinate with Sputnik. The vaccinated also get sick, some seriously. And one more interesting detail. Among my acquaintances, there are more and more those who are difficult to tolerate the vaccine. If earlier it was “shot and gone”, on the second day there was a slight (moderate) malaise, or even without consequences at all, now many complain that the day after the vaccine is just trash. The temperature is up to 39 and more, it hurts like in a serious illness. An acquaintance says that everyone at work was forced to get vaccinated under pain of being fired. So he and his wife almost gave up, it was so bad. And many of them felt the same way. Perhaps the vaccine has become more aggressive, more active substances have been added?! (IMHO)
аватар klichko
The most unpleasant choice when you have to choose what to be afraid of more) Pfizer is no longer so desirable -v-ramkah-covax
аватар Sergey_7979
While European countries are one after another open to the citizens of Ukraine without vaccination, Ukraine itself is closed to travelers. And its citizens, including:
https://censor.net/be/news/3277996/ukraina_mojet_otpravlyat_nevaktsinirovannyh_priezjih_na _samoizolyatsiyu_srokom_do_2_nedel/sortby/tree/order/asc/page/1#comment_765 725
So that you understand, unvaccinated citizens of Ukraine 18+ are offered to introduce self-isolation when returning to Ukraine.
Note that PCR tests are no longer offered
аватар nadin65
Sergey_7979 / offer, read carefully:
As reported by "European Truth " with reference to the press service of the President's Office, this was discussed during a conference call.
"According to Viktor Lyashko, it is proposed that all unvaccinated people who come to Ukraine will have to pass 14 days of self-isolation, or seven days if they receive a negative PCR test after this period," the statement said.
It is proposed to release from self-isolation minors of Ukraine under the age of 18 and persons who left Ukraine before the entry into force of the resolution to introduce such rules
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