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аватар Scurra-2
I have always been vaccinated against the flu. Then the move was temporary, smoothly turning into the final one. Leapfrog with ...., in short, it was not up to vaccinations, so chronic bronchitis and pharyngitis developed, as complications after the flu. I'm afraid that my lungs won't survive the covid. Everyone decides how to act.
аватар zolyshka111
Or maybe it is better to strengthen the immune system than to inject yourself with all sorts of rubbish?
аватар klichko
zolyshka111, but just recently she was nice and adequate. And suddenly non-stop mental-magnetic storms
The accustomed are much less likely to get pricked with bullshit than the unvaccinated get sick and infect dozens of the same stubborn ones. The argument "only two and as many as 10" = two people more or less does not count. And "strengthen immunity" is purely infantile advice
That's what this endless agitation, self-hypnosis? Let go at last, bust chesslovo
аватар zolyshka111
klichko, maybe it's time for the vaccine-dependent to calm down, huh? You shot, well done, until the next dose, then we'll talk when time passes. I say this as a medical professional. And yes, the coronavirus is not as scary as it is painted here. Yes, of the 12 deceased, God forgive me, only two from the crown, but only two, this is five times less than 10 from heart attacks, strokes and oncology. I, as I was adequate, have remained, I do not succumb to mass psychosis.
аватар Slav_na
lately, it’s true that more people are drowning for China than for Modernity ... who knows why?
аватар Pachok
YaSlavnaYa, I wrote why on the last page. But, as always, they crap, sorry for the expression.
аватар Slav_na
Pachok,
went to read...
well, crap - it's sacred! it's boring, girls! (yesi cho. this is a quote from Ostap Suleiman, not a politician)
аватар klichko
Friends by appointment sent home with Modern today. I started to find out. It turns out that no one needs to drown anymore. In IEC only Koronavak. I went through the vaccination points, also one Koronavik for the record. So there is no time to read)
аватар Pachok
But in the clinic today, a friend was offered Modern instead of the second Pfizer. And he says there were groups of teachers, all in Modern :)
аватар klichko
I wondered what we would be injected with in 28 days. But they threatened the same Modern
So, today 78 thousand people have been vaccinated throughout Ukraine. Even 100 thousand daily. And let everyone halt Modern. She has been pricked since Thursday. 2 million doses to use for 5 days anrial. Stored for later? Resold? Taken offshore?
аватар klichko
today a friend was offered Modern instead of the second Pfizer
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Was it lying around? My family also offered to inject with Modern this week. I called the clinic for the sake of interest, but not this
Tomorrow we will be on the hotline to find out. The guys want only Modern
аватар Pachok
But who knows what kind of schemes they have :(
аватар nataha33
klichko, When Moderna was brought to Ukraine, our "figures" promised that they would first give 1 million for vaccination. doses, and after 28 days - another 1 million. I hope that it will be like that.
But I don't think 1 million doses of Moderna were used these days. Perhaps this is only in Kyiv such a stir.
аватар hanno4ka
News in Spain, we are in the "green zone" and so far the entrance without test certificates https://spain.mfa.gov.ua/coivid-19-rezhim-poyizdok
аватар klichko
nataha33, everything would be fine, but they brought one
аватар klichko
flew off
brought in one batch of 2 million. And on my memo, the expiration date is indicated until 18.08. Look at your vaccinated
аватар Sergey_7979
Spain allowed entry of Ukrainian citizens without test and vaccination !!!
http://lowcostavia.com.ua/spain-entrance-for-ukrainians-without-restrictions/
аватар nataha33
klichko,
"Brought 2 million in one batch."
That's right, 2 million were brought to Ukraine in one batch. doses of Moderna. But they said that first they would "ship" half of the batch to the vaccination points, and after 28 days - the second half, so that everyone would have enough for the 2nd dose.
"on my memo, the expiration date is indicated until 18.08"
My husband and son were given one memo for two and they did not indicate the expiration date, only the batch number: "040D 21A"
If the expiration date is valid until 18.08, then this is quite sad ... (((
аватар klichko
More precisely, until 16.08
аватар nataha33
klichko, I’m thinking, maybe this is the expiration date after the vaccine is thawed ... As far as I remember, Moderna is stored at -20 ° C, and after defrosting for a month at -2 ° to -8 ° (numbers from memory, could be a bit confused).
аватар dusik1981
"All persons, regardless of nationality, who came from Russia or India and stayed in these countries for more than 7 days in the last two weeks, will be subject to stricter rules of self-isolation. In particular, they will be required to 14-day self-isolation without the right to its early termination. "
Source site of the Cabinet of Ministers
https://www.kmu.gov.ua/news/uryad-zminiv-pravila-peretinu-kordonu-dlya-protidiyi-delta-shtamu-k oronavirusu
аватар Sergey_7979
While the whole world is gradually opening up to the citizens of Ukraine, Ukraine is trying to close itself off from the world:
https://censor.net/be/news/3279600/ukraina_v_nachale_avgusta_vernet_ptsrtestirovanie_dlya_ vezjayuschih_nevaktsinirovannyh_lyashko/sortby/tree/order/asc/page/1#commen t_76615324
It is interesting that according to negative tests made outside of Ukraine, on the eve of return (in 48-72 hours) will be admitted to Ukraine?
Do they still have to take tests in Ukraine?
аватар dusik1981
Sergey_7979
I understand that everyone lives in their own information bubble, but you should not blindly believe everything that is written. As for the tests, they do not apply to all countries, but to several. Where the spread of "Delta ". And those who travel from those countries are required to take a rapid test at the border, at their own expense, and then under the scheme, negative free, unless from Russia or India.
Read the official documents that I posted above, and about crossing the border, or on the website of the SBGS, or the Cabinet of Ministers, and maybe a few pages ago, I also wrote.
аватар Sergey_7979
Dusik 1981,
Mandatory 14-day isolation of those entering Ukraine from Russia or India
and the requirement to take the test of those who come from other countries and unvaccinated - that's two different news
аватар dusik1981
Sergey_7979
You wrote 'Interesting outside Ukraine, on the eve of return (48-72 hours) to Ukraine will be allowed?
Are they still forced to take tests in Ukraine? '
If you followed everything and did not trust only the Censor (here can be any publication to which they refer, except the official ") then you could see that the phrase in the link you provided was taken out of context.
And I answered your questions. The official information on the tests on the SBGS website has been available for free for a month now, and its publications have been reposted. Therefore, the tests are currently required only for those who leave Portugal, India, Brazil and Russia (I do not remember whether all countries listed or not). For other cases, the usual practice of a covid passport or a negative test is all.
аватар dusik1981
Sergey_7979 on your strength give such "Self-isolation or observation of unvaccinated COVID-19 will help control and reduce the chance of a new outbreak." For citizens of Ukraine who left before the entry into force of the resolution, return home will be unimpeded. With the entry into force of the resolution, citizens of Ukraine will continue to cross the border without hindrance in the presence of at least one vaccination against COVID-19. '
and here's what on the CMU website
"The coronavirus strain Delta is actively spreading in Western Europe and the countries that our citizens choose for summer travel.
We are proposing new rules for crossing the border to reduce the possibility of the virus spreading in Ukraine. If someone becomes infected abroad, we will also be able to conduct better epidemic investigations if a carrier is found. '
аватар dusik1981
And then there is the text of the conditions for crossing the border and they have changed only for two countries
"New rules for crossing the border of Ukraine:
Foreigners must have a COVID-19 insurance policy and one of the following documents:
negative result of testing for COVID-19 by PCR (not more than 72 hours before crossing the border),
negative result of the rapid test for the antigen of coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 (not more than 72 hours before crossing the border),
a document confirming receipt of a full course of vaccination from COVID-19 vaccines included in the WHO list of permitted for use in emergencies, publications in accordance with IHR or in accordance with international agreements concluded by Ukraine on mutual recognition of vaccination documents. "
аватар dusik1981
Crossing the state border from any country is unimpeded for the citizens of Ukraine provided that one of the 2 documents is available:
Document confirming receipt of the full course of vaccination from COVID-19 vaccines included in the WHO list of permitted for use in emergencies, publications in accordance with IHR or in accordance with international agreements concluded by Ukraine on mutual recognition of vaccination documents.
Information 063-O about the first vaccination from the course of vaccination from COVID-19
аватар dusik1981
Therefore, there is no closing of borders, but there are clear rules of crossing.
аватар dusik1981
by the way, the UE provides Lyashko's full words "Direct speech: ' "Delta "is actively spreading in Europe, a major outbreak caused by this strain is circulating in the Russian Federation. We are proposing new border crossing rules, which will come into force 7 days after its official publication, to reduce the possibility of the virus spreading in Ukraine if someone becomes infected outside our country.
Thanks to these changes, we will be able to conduct better epidemiological investigations in the event of detection of the carrier. Self-isolation or observation of unvaccinated people from COVID-19 will help control and reduce the chance of a new large-scale outbreak in our country.
It is worth noting that for Ukrainian citizens who have left the country before the entry into force of this resolution, which we propose, return home will remain unhindered. With the entry into force of the resolution, citizens of Ukraine will continue to cross the border without hindrance in the event of at least one vaccination against COVID-19.
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