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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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53 subscribers  • asked 2020-04-094 years ago
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аватар Slav_na
I will use the mask even after vaccination (where necessary) ===
my happiness is a skeptic and a kritin (in the sense of a critic))) - and he, after 2 months of sitting in 4 walls, removes the mask at home only after turning the key three times in the lock)))
аватар Apyatka
YaSlavnaYa, many doctors do not believe in this vaccine, to put it mildly. Maybe that's why the doctor said - I can not advise or forbid.
In general, I try not to advise anyone anything in the sense of vaccination. Even my husband. But I will not prick my mother. I bear full responsibility for her - she is 83 years old, she has dementia and has a long medical history. She leaves the house with me. It is clear that I am not an amulet from the coronavirus, we just walk away from people. Vaccination with her history is as risky as the disease.
I really expected other results from vaccination.
And I don't even know what's going to happen next.
If 60% are vaccinated, will the masks be removed?
What are the predictions?
аватар hanno4ka
should I, having been vaccinated, separate from my husband for a while, or can I continue kissing right after the injection. ========== The vaccine does not contain a live virus, as Apyatka told you. you cannot get infected from it and infect someone, a post-vaccination reaction (temperature, aches, etc.). This is not a covid infection, but the body's immune response. .
аватар Slav_na
thanks to all! ????
аватар Slav_na
damn, that was a smiley!!!
аватар dusik1981
Apyatka
and what in your opinion "to remove a mask ", you studied epidemiology? if so, what questions can be asked, if not, read the general section, even the Soviet textbook, there is a clearly defined methodology, how and what to do.
I usually understand that the current minister can create according to the addendum about "Excellent", but what I see books are still adhered to, and what will happen next we will see and take into account the ratings of politicians.
аватар Apyatka
dusik1981
"Have you studied epidemiology? "
Good thing you studied. So tell us here, dark.
Send to read textbooks is low internet manipulation.
аватар dusik1981
Apyatka
there is no desire to give a course of lectures on FEC, in short, wearing masks or other defensive speeches will be until the quarantine is lifted. But in our country, if you cross out one saying from the 90's "ratings are our everything ". everything as the book says. We have a ban on movement, delivery of products to the military and Ukrposhta, mass testing, not roads, and also compulsory vaccination. And so we will reap the consequences for a long time, and there are many "experts ". Therefore, I report the information that can be found in mass sources.
аватар Apyatka
dusik1981
"I do not want to give a course of lectures on fuel and energy "
I will not force you)
There was a question to all - who has what opinion.
But thank you for enlightening me.
By the way, from August 10, the Kyiv City State Administration will accept applications for special passes for the next lockdown. So, probably, the next lockdown will be.
аватар klichko
Apyatka, sometimes I myself sin by reacting to local flows of the unconscious. And this provokes personal degradation, albeit short-term) We must restrain ourselves, it is contagious)
Happiness is when people don't suit you, they don't suit you (c)
аватар mishatour
The more time passes since the beginning of this nightmare, the more I begin to believe those experts who say .... we know nothing. They honestly do not want to mislead people. Time has made us all experimental .. and those who are vaccinated and those who are not. On August 1, Israel began to vaccinate 60+ with the third dose. Everyone rushed instilled with the thought ... what will be will be. The American regulator has not yet approved the 3rd dose, but the Israeli Ministry of Health decided not to wait ... The growth of patients, including the seriously ill, does not allow the leadership to wait, and science is silent ... In China, after a long break, another outbreak ... My personal opinion, only if during the YEAR to vaccinate the entire population of the planet .... then maybe we will get out.
аватар Kasja23
/ if the entire population of the planet is vaccinated within a YEAR .... then maybe we will get out. /
Unreal. Therefore, we will not choose
аватар klichko
Here it would be at least half to reach, with such indifference and enthusiasm
Prifigela from our plinth figures of vaccination. One hope, we took the pace, we can up to half to the cold weather and we'll make it. Southeast definitely not. But Kyiv will squeeze half
аватар klichko
I think many of our non-killed ones will abruptly change their orientation due to ball vaccination against the background of blood-paid PCR upon Attud's return. Or maybe it was meant to be.)
аватар Slav_na
klichko,
by the way, yes ... everyone does not like to spend money)))
аватар camomille
Dear travelers, does anyone already have experience of getting COVID-certificate (after full vaccination)?
аватар Pachok
There is
аватар nataha33
camomile, there is experience in obtaining a certificate of vaccination. It takes 10 minutes for a family doctor with a foreign passport. Can be taken immediately after the 2nd vaccination. Issued in two languages ​​- Ukrainian and English.
аватар nadin65
camomile, have experience, received a certificate. In September they wanted to go to Turkey, it passes there, but there is sadness ...
Egypt does not recognize our certificates, there is no PR code, there is no digital one in Ukraine either, so you have to pay for the test, it's a shame ...
аватар klichko
Looks like they waited their turn. There countries are waiting for madaragai https://interfax.com.ua/news/pharmacy/759778.html
And in pursuit of a completely convincing and informative video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtHeIBCKrv0
аватар Sergey_7979
The vaccination process will be continuous and eternal:
https://censor.net/be/news/3280994/v_ukraine_planiruyut_vvesti_povtornuyu_covidvaktsinatsi yu_naseleniya_cherez_god_posle_bazovoyi_glavnyyi/sortby/tree/order/asc/page /1#com06
And, perhaps, in time, and pay ...
аватар Slav_na
this music will last forever
аватар klichko
The vaccination process will be continuous and eternal:
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To me, too, Newton's bean. They are vaccinated against the flu every year. Israel is already around 60+, who have been vaccinated for six months. Give a kick to the weakened immune system. Europe has also begun consolidating the third dose. And the WHO is on its knees begging to wait in favor of backward countries with a shortage of vaccines
And that our people are inclined to the interval of a year, there are already statements that such an option will be enough for the rest of our lives. Let's wait, the statistics are collected quickly
аватар nadezda2017
“This summer, British scientists conducted a large-scale study in which almost 100 thousand people from different parts of the UK took part. It turned out that due to the dominant delta strain, vaccinations began to protect people from infection weaker. If in May the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines was 64%, then in June-July it fell by 15%."
About the same for Israel. 49% is, alas, not the promised 95%
There is something to think about.
аватар mishatour
nadezda2017, but what is he thinking) We must repeat .... The day before yesterday I injected myself with the 3rd dose of a phaser. This is how our miner of health decided. 7-8 months have passed since the first dose, and the antibodies disappeared ... There is one more statistic for Israel. Among the 1,000,000 unvaccinated people, there is a large percentage of Russian speakers who do not use the Israeli media (due to not knowing Hebrew), but draw information from Russian Internet sites. This million also has a negative impact on the fight against the corona. If someone thinks today that he will do without vaccination .... he is simply wasting time and is a danger to others .. This is my opinion, which is not customary to voice in democratic countries.
аватар Sergey_7979
Hungary opens borders for Ukrainian citizens for tourism !!!
A negative PCR test or vaccination certificate is required for entry;
аватар ira.novo2000
dusik1981, if we force globalists to abandon covid as an excuse for the fall of the economy and living standards, then they can come up with something worse. For example, blow up nuclear power plants and chemical industries. Or arrange a climatic cataclysm - you don’t need much explosions either, there were technologies back in the days of the USSR - directed takeoffs of planes caused rain even then, but now how these technologies have developed.
Everyone will be vaccinated and by 2022-2023 there will be a new strain or a new virus, or a fungus, or mycoplasma ...
аватар dusik1981
ira.novo2000
Show me where I wrote about giving up kovid. I always wrote what to do, because he writes a "book" and there is a clear mechanism of how to do it step by step and what to do, and people are specially taught to do it.
As for vaccination, go to Zmorshok to see how the situation is and then talk about new organisms.
I have my own view on this issue, and I have always said it. From the latter it is a prohibition not to instill being in an organized team. there is a precedent in such a case. The Supreme Court made a specific decision regarding non-vaccinated persons, in which case there was a child who was not allowed to attend school for refusing to allow his parents to pass or to vaccinate. , citing the fact that the team is higher than one individual, and here the government has such an opportunity, but I suspect that it will not go for it because "ratings are all their ".
аватар ira.novo2000
Sorry, I answered Apyatka
аватар klichko
Yes, all states are for vaccination, so as not to go broke. Yes, it's just too costly. Therefore, big business simply forces employees to get vaccinated. Lords can't do that. Another thing is that in normal countries people think not only about their own lives, but also those around them, traditionally do not interfere with the lives of others. And we have an abundance of conspiracy theorists-nihilists-anarchists, so they see shvabodu. This is the problem of all underdeveloped infantile states
It is quite possible that covid fell down, like salvation from the world war, the cat was already climbing out of all the cracks. Perhaps the state is going too far with the restriction of freedoms. And perhaps, in one fell swoop, global conflicts were extinguished (I personally do not mind) But a dangerous disease exists and is only gaining momentum. It remains to be seen which disease will become the champion in mortality in a couple of years. And this must and most importantly can be fought
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