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All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
All about the problem that stopped tourism around the world
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аватар klichko
Kabzdets. Forbid, re-educate, thieves and enemies are everywhere, we are digging in ... soviet infantilism is already gone) And don't be too lazy to react
The family doctor declines responsibility. Let's not take risks. We hope Sinovak will soon approve the EU
аватар moy_contakt
Pachok, yes, she was ill twice, and moreover, there are acquaintances who, like, did not get sick, but having passed for antibodies, they found out that they are in sufficient quantities. But that doesn't matter to anyone. It's a pity to spend 250 UAH on analysis. And I wrote this to the fact that fear has big eyes. Well, what they are now trying to do under the guise of a good is far from always such (and this is not only vaccination, but potions have been brewed, it needs to be stabbed, what money is invested). And how many of these have been ill (the statistics are hoo, and everyone needs to inject like that). It’s not a fact that you won’t get sick (so I have interruptions in my immunity), but you need to inject.
аватар Apyatka
YaSlavnaYa, To ride. Well, the effectiveness is somehow in doubt, for some reason they do not recognize it in the WHO (but this, of course, may be a political decision, it is difficult to judge here) With Sputnik, you can go without a test only to Turkey. Well, they say, Tai has also opened, but with such conditions that he is not interested in any vaccine)
And you can't go to Europe with Sputnik. Yes, and to Ukraine with a recognized vaccination without a test. Only not with satellite)
аватар Pachok
Moy_contakt, once again - how do you, who have been ill, and your acquaintances with antibodies, have anything to do with vaccination and Scurra-2 immunity? Who spares money for analysis and whose eyes are large with fear?
аватар moy_contakt
Pachok, a well-known fact. Immunity is acquired in two ways: by transferring or by vaccination. So, if a person believes that he did not get sick, it does not mean that this is so. He could overflow either in a mild form or in general asymptomatically. And before telling that I kind of flew off and didn’t get sick, and apparently this vaccine helped, well, this is such a statement. To whom and how much it has helped and will help in general will be clear in a year or two, when the countries that have vaccinated most of the country's population will again go through the next "wave". Then it will be possible to seriously discuss this topic. And now it's all at the level of the experiment. In Israel, for example, they began to put the third dose .... Well, returning to the elephants. Those who have been ill and have received natural immunity (and it is determined not only by the presence of antibodies, this is a much deeper topic) are not required to be vaccinated, and serious complications are possible. The most famous case is the vaccination against dengue fever. Well, as a person who has been ill twice (easily and quickly enough)
аватар moy_contakt
Continuation. I did not get sick again, while there was constant contact for 3 weeks with patients with covid (confirmed by tests), and my own immunity did an excellent job. Further I think it is not necessary to explain, it seems that everything was clearly written. And by the way, again, apparently, I had a different strain (there was where to pick it up, that's why I got sick), but at the time of the illness it had not yet been determined, and even now they don’t. Enough positive PCR.
аватар moy_contakt
I’ll clarify that they wouldn’t throw them with slippers, it hurt twice and the second time there was a different strain from a person who came from another country, where, after they began to blow, they found a delta strain. And with this option, the whole office of her husband, along with family members, was ill. Everyone is alive and well, and without complications, and the office is not very small. And later, almost half a year after this illness, I took care of my sick mother-in-law and my husband's sister. They fell ill with the usual form (and since I was ill with this particular strain in May (almost a year ago), I didn’t get sick with it, because the immune system worked well. Something like that.
аватар Scurra-2
Pachok, and kill! With my immunity all is well, and to him (immunity) on it all, as in Turkish hotels, on cymbals! Take care of your health as you can and as you see fit! I received a certificate in ACTION and I want to go to France or Austria. Here is how to somehow ask for vaccination to influence the maintenance of my wallet!)))
аватар Pachok
moy_contakt, this is all very interesting, but it has nothing to do with other people. To those who were not sick, in particular. That they don't do igg analysis is just your guess. Among mine, everything was done regularly, up to vaccination. And what do you want to prove? What is better to wait until you get infected and get sick than to get vaccinated? Option. If you don't breathe.
аватар nataha33
Pachok, 100%! Better not to say!
аватар moy_contakt
Pachok from my environment, no one died, everyone got sick and age-related and diabetics, and even my husband's sister with a total allergy to everything and a partial resection of her lungs. She is very seriously ill in principle, but everything is ok. I said and I repeat that you can die from the flu and from a sore throat and from anything. A vaccine is such a big experiment. Which side it will come out in a year or two, we will find out in a year or two. They intimidated people that, with any sneeze, they run to take PCR and demand hospitalization .... but if a person is sure that by putting the vaccine he protected himself from the disease, let him believe, faith, as you know, dies last. All health :)
аватар Slav_na
=no one died=
аватар Slav_na
sorry, couldn't resist...
аватар moy_contakt
YaSlavnaYa I quoted Pachok, this is not my phrase.
аватар Pachok
It's a "survivor's mistake", nothing new.
аватар klichko
I immediately remembered a tough well-aimed anecdote about Petka and a nuance
You can die and they died (not dead), two big differences. My nephew died, but my brother survived. But for some it's too hard
Chur, I was not in this delirium)
аватар Apyatka
Who got covid certificates in Diya? I read somewhere that they can be saved to the phone (suddenly there will be no Internet in the place where they will be checked) But my certificate is not saved. There is a copy button. Only the number was copied. And how to copy the kuarkod? The screen in Dia is not done.
аватар Slav_na
and if you take a picture of the screen with another smart
аватар Apyatka
YaSlavnaYa
I'll try. But will it read
аватар nadin65
I checked this: I completely turned off the Internet and Wi-Fi and mobile.
Dia opens up! And there are certificates
аватар Sergey_7979
Who is here in the line for Modern enrolled:
https://censor.net/ru/news/3285892/obnarujennye_v_yaponii_v_vaktsine_moderna_primesi_okaza lis_nerjaveyuscheyi_stalyu
?
аватар zolyshka111
Sergey_7979, interesting article. While vaccines are being riveted 24/7, no one is even trying to create a cure for covid, at least something like Tamiflu (now we are not talking about it, there is no need to criticize). Only vaccination! Which, by the way, neither gives a guarantee against infection, nor a guarantee that there will be no side effects. Soon they will be forced to drive with sticks. For a year and a half, cabbage on vaccination and tests is very well chopped, why bother with medicine))))
аватар Apyatka
thanks nadin65!
She herself learned and has already taught others) Indeed, the Internet is needed only to tighten up.
аватар Apyatka
zolyshka111, it's all much deeper than you think. What's the point of protesting?
аватар Pachok
Yesterday we arrived from Croatia. My husband has a yellow certificate, he showed it for entry. I got ready to put "at home", but when asked by the border guard about vaccination, I said that there is one dose, but there is no record of it in Dia, it does not catch up. She asked "health me" is there? I opened health me, showed the record and that was enough to let me through the border home.
Z.Y. Who knows what kind of Arab nix we have at airports? It seems that he flew to Abu Dhabi, and not to Kyiv. Women, wrapped up to their eyes, with ten children, a bunch of frisky mustachioed goats, just some families with green passports ... And that's not counting the Hasidls. With those, everything is clear, they immediately take a taxi to Uman, but what did the Muslims forget here?
аватар zolyshka111
Apyatka, what's deeper? My question is not open
аватар nadin65
"what kind of Arab nix we have at airports?": I think that these are the families of whom they were taken out of Afghanistan, along with ours, several planes were rescue.
аватар Igor_m
Pachok are Afghan refugees, mostly from a neighboring state.
аватар dusik1981
Pachok
In general, "Muslims forgot" tourism in our country., Or rather, they found it, while they have a heat, we are good for them. They have already been "mastering" Ukraine in terms of tourism for 4 months.
As for the Afghans, about 300 people "brought" them to Ukraine, about 300 people, of which 165 people were placed in Odessa.
аватар Pachok
No, definitely not Afghans, not refugees.
I read a little. It seems that yes, tourists:(((To Bukovel, etc., the house disappeared:(
And still I don’t understand why they never needed us, and then suddenly it’s just a pilgrimage.
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