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Is it possible for a citizen of Ukraine to enter from Ukraine to the Russian Federation using an internal passport with a new surname (ID-card), and then fly to Germany using an old passport with a maiden name?
Is it possible for a citizen of Ukraine to enter from Ukraine to the Russian Federation using an internal passport with a new surname (ID-card), and then fly to Germany using an old passport with a maiden name?
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In Ukraine, there are now huge delays in issuing new passports, waiting is not an option, you need to urgently get to Germany.
According to the new Ukrainian law, in the event of a change of surname, the old passport is automatically invalidated, about which the Border Guard Service of Ukraine and the Ukrainian Bureau of Interpol are informed within 24 hours (the latter raises certain doubts). In theory, I cannot leave Ukraine with an old passport, but I can leave with a new internal one.
Will there be any problems with flying from Russia to Germany using the old passport? Since you will need to show a migration card at the departure, there will probably be questions about why it was issued for one surname (new), and I show some completely different passport at the departure? Can they not let me out of the Russian Federation in this case?
There is another option to travel to the Russian Federation by train: leave Ukraine with an internal passport, show the old passport at the entrance to the Russian Federation, then the problem with the migration paper would be solved. Will this trick work? Me m
According to the new Ukrainian law, in the event of a change of surname, the old passport is automatically invalidated, about which the Border Guard Service of Ukraine and the Ukrainian Bureau of Interpol are informed within 24 hours (the latter raises certain doubts). In theory, I cannot leave Ukraine with an old passport, but I can leave with a new internal one.
Will there be any problems with flying from Russia to Germany using the old passport? Since you will need to show a migration card at the departure, there will probably be questions about why it was issued for one surname (new), and I show some completely different passport at the departure? Can they not let me out of the Russian Federation in this case?
There is another option to travel to the Russian Federation by train: leave Ukraine with an internal passport, show the old passport at the entrance to the Russian Federation, then the problem with the migration paper would be solved. Will this trick work? Me m
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answered 7 years ago
Enter Russia immediately through the old foreign border, so that the border guards do not break the brain with a change of surname.
By the way, if I were you, I would not miss the opportunity to check whether the Ukrainian border guards really receive information about the change of surname. When leaving for the Russian Federation, give them an old passport and look at the reaction. As a last resort, if they say that the passport is no longer valid, answer "oh, milpardon, your head is full of holes, here is my new document."
By the way, if I were you, I would not miss the opportunity to check whether the Ukrainian border guards really receive information about the change of surname. When leaving for the Russian Federation, give them an old passport and look at the reaction. As a last resort, if they say that the passport is no longer valid, answer "oh, milpardon, your head is full of holes, here is my new document."
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answered 7 years ago
I support the idea about the old foreign country.
Entry through a new internal one and exit through the old one is a bad idea, because, to put it bluntly, Ivanova drove in and Sidorova left, immediately questions.
Entry through a new internal one and exit through the old one is a bad idea, because, to put it bluntly, Ivanova drove in and Sidorova left, immediately questions.
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answered 7 years ago
They didn’t try to speed up the issuance of new documents, write an application to the document service, write an email or call the polygraph plant Ukraine call the hotline of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine, the presidential office, many did this in July and August to speed up the process of issuing a new bio abroad, now there is not such a stir as July or August.
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answered 7 years ago
The problem is that I most likely cannot leave Ukraine using the old foreign passport, because it is no longer valid. On the Internet, Ukrainians come across who, after changing their surnames, could not leave the country using their old passport.
To be honest, I have no desire to tempt fate and see what will happen to me for trying to illegally cross the border. The fine is fine, it's not scary, but according to the laws, my passport is then subject to seizure and destruction, which cannot be allowed. I have a German residence permit in this passport.
Unfortunately, the excitement for obtaining new passports has not diminished. The passport service says that it will take several months. All these accelerations do not really give any guarantees. And I need to leave right now.
To be honest, I have no desire to tempt fate and see what will happen to me for trying to illegally cross the border. The fine is fine, it's not scary, but according to the laws, my passport is then subject to seizure and destruction, which cannot be allowed. I have a German residence permit in this passport.
Unfortunately, the excitement for obtaining new passports has not diminished. The passport service says that it will take several months. All these accelerations do not really give any guarantees. And I need to leave right now.
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answered 7 years ago
Oooooh, if your old passports are confiscated there without options, then of course, don’t risk it, leave on the inside. And I leave my old passports as a keepsake)).
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answered 7 years ago
With the usual replacement of a passport, you can leave the old one, but when you try to illegally cross the border, the border guards have every reason to have their passport confiscated.
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answered 7 years ago
I doubt about a few months, acquaintances, a family of 2 adults abroad + a child abroad applied for a bio-immigrant to the new Document Service, which was done in the department store Ukraine without delay.
Have you tried to call or just write "All these accelerations really do not give any guarantees", I called the hotline at the CMU in July! (when there was Armageddon with passports) and wrote to fb on the service document page about everything that was happening, called and wrote messages to them, they gave me without delay, those who wrote and supported each other on fb on this issue, I can find links and messages. called the president's office and without delay a passport.
Have you tried to call or just write "All these accelerations really do not give any guarantees", I called the hotline at the CMU in July! (when there was Armageddon with passports) and wrote to fb on the service document page about everything that was happening, called and wrote messages to them, they gave me without delay, those who wrote and supported each other on fb on this issue, I can find links and messages. called the president's office and without delay a passport.
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answered 7 years ago
I think you are dramatizing with "illegal attempt". Distraction is not a crime. Well, they handed out an old passport by mistake, apologized and presented the correct one. What, they will immediately take it under white hands and write out a fine?
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answered 7 years ago
When did you get your passport?
I found a group on Facebook where people who applied for a passport in August and still have not received it unsubscribe.
I have not yet applied for a new passport, I am waiting for the issuance of an ID card (which, by the way, has already been delayed a little) and for now I am thinking about how to live on.
I found a group on Facebook where people who applied for a passport in August and still have not received it unsubscribe.
I have not yet applied for a new passport, I am waiting for the issuance of an ID card (which, by the way, has already been delayed a little) and for now I am thinking about how to live on.
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answered 7 years ago
The name and surname in the passport and ticket must match. The two passports have different surnames. Don't buy two tickets...
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answered 7 years ago
yuliya_9999 during this time what you write could call 1545 or (44) 255–70–42
(44) 226–20–77 - today is Wednesday the president's reception day, entry until 12:00, call
(44) 226–20–77 - today is Wednesday the president's reception day, entry until 12:00, call
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answered 7 years ago
The delays in issuing passports are horrendous. The docks were submitted on 09/13/2017. Still not ready. It’s good that at least the old one is valid until May. After all, many countries need to be left six months before the expiration date of the passport. On the search resource of the migration service on the state of readiness of the passport for 3 weeks, as sent to print ...
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answered 7 years ago
yuliya_9999, according to the law, your old passport is subject to cancellation. But, on the basis of PKMU N 152, paragraph 92, you can keep the old foreign passport if it contains 1 or more visas. The application can be written by hand in free form with reference to the law. But this is probably not in your case - it will definitely not be possible to leave it. But your residence permit will remain. I was punched and returned immediately, when submitting documents for a new one
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answered 7 years ago
travelsita, they also do not update the system on time, although it is written on the website that it is three times a day. Our ID-card was already waiting at the branch, while the site was just sent for printing. And now my passport was sent to the CPU 2 weeks ago (it was filed at the beginning of October), but it doesn’t appear on the child at all, although it was filed at the same time.
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answered 7 years ago
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