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I want to visit my father in the city of Troitsk, Chelyabinsk region. I am traveling with my husband and 5 year old daughter. What difficulties await at the border? Do you need a challenge from Russia?
I want to visit my father in the city of Troitsk, Chelyabinsk region. I am traveling with my husband and 5 year old daughter. What difficulties await at the border? Do you need a challenge from Russia?
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Dear mag-kuzmina. Unfortunately, I cannot answer your question, but I am sure that TourPravdintsy will help you. I have to ask you. The matter is that I passed military service in this city. If it's not difficult, could you write a story about Troitsk after your arrival? With photos. And if by some miracle you happen to be on the outskirts of the city where the Trinity Zhirkombinat is located, then please take pictures of what is left of the airfield where the helicopter detachments were based. Thank you in advance.
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answered 4 years ago
In Russia, there are no troubles with "challenges" and other invitations, so go calmly.
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answered 4 years ago
Call is not needed. In the migration card, indicate that you are going to visit and the address where you will live. At the border, you can present an internal Ukrainian passport, not a foreign one.
If the husband is the father of the child, then the child does not need anything other than a birth certificate.
If the father of the child is different, then his consent, notarized, will be needed at the border of Ukraine, upon departure.
If the husband is the father of the child, then the child does not need anything other than a birth certificate.
If the father of the child is different, then his consent, notarized, will be needed at the border of Ukraine, upon departure.
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answered 4 years ago
Apyatka
I read somewhere (I don’t remember anymore) that the requirements have changed and the “internal Ukrainian passport” is no longer valid?
I read somewhere (I don’t remember anymore) that the requirements have changed and the “internal Ukrainian passport” is no longer valid?
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answered 4 years ago
This does not work for you, but you can enter Russia. I also read that from a certain date Ukrainians were forbidden to travel with internal passports.
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answered 4 years ago
ollennka
Strange logic. What's the point in the fact that there are no changes in the Russian Federation. They may not be released from Ukraine. We need to find out ... I remembered it was a press conference of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, where he said that the rule was changing ...
Strange logic. What's the point in the fact that there are no changes in the Russian Federation. They may not be released from Ukraine. We need to find out ... I remembered it was a press conference of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, where he said that the rule was changing ...
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answered 4 years ago
Well, sorry, about logic, the question is not for me, but for the relevant authorities of Ukraine.
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answered 4 years ago
Well, it hasn't been canceled yet. It is still written with a pitchfork on the water.
Although, probably, it's time to do abroad)
Although, probably, it's time to do abroad)
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answered 4 years ago
ollennka, The logic is the same everywhere - first crossing the border for exit, and then crossing the border for entry.
Even when this logic is illogical (imagine, this also happens). For example, at present there is no possibility of legal crossing of the Belarus-Russia border by citizens of third countries (including citizens of the CIS and EU countries) by land transport
Even when this logic is illogical (imagine, this also happens). For example, at present there is no possibility of legal crossing of the Belarus-Russia border by citizens of third countries (including citizens of the CIS and EU countries) by land transport
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answered 4 years ago
Is there a border between Belarus and Russia? Entering Belarus, we immediately enter, as it were, Russia. Not?
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answered 4 years ago
"Currently, there is no possibility of legal crossing of the Belarus-Russia border by citizens of third countries (including citizens of the CIS and EU countries"
This information is definitely not true, where did you read it?
This information is definitely not true, where did you read it?
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answered 4 years ago
"This information is definitely not true, where did you read this?"
There are no international checkpoints between Balarus and Russia. Somewhere in 16 there was a big fuss about this and foreigners entering through the Belarus-Russia border were considered illegally crossing the Russian border. Then they settled it - you can cross the border through the "Three Sisters" checkpoint. Whether it has become an international checkpoint, or the pressure has been eased, I don't know.
There are no international checkpoints between Balarus and Russia. Somewhere in 16 there was a big fuss about this and foreigners entering through the Belarus-Russia border were considered illegally crossing the Russian border. Then they settled it - you can cross the border through the "Three Sisters" checkpoint. Whether it has become an international checkpoint, or the pressure has been eased, I don't know.
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answered 4 years ago
For the non-logical ollennka.
I didn't read it, I quoted it verbatim. Google the end of my answer with the word "For example ...".
And then write that you made a mistake claiming that this is "EXACTLY not true."
There, the logic you dislike is very simple - a citizen of a third country with a Belarusian visa can enter the Russian Federation without a visa from the territory of Belarus. This is always the case when a political decision violates the logic of the process. First they opened the border, then they realized that there was a problem, now they come up with comedy schemes - you don’t go here, you go there.
But we are not discussing here the peculiarities of the border between Belarus and the Russian Federation, but the answers of experts like "This does not work for you."
I didn't read it, I quoted it verbatim. Google the end of my answer with the word "For example ...".
And then write that you made a mistake claiming that this is "EXACTLY not true."
There, the logic you dislike is very simple - a citizen of a third country with a Belarusian visa can enter the Russian Federation without a visa from the territory of Belarus. This is always the case when a political decision violates the logic of the process. First they opened the border, then they realized that there was a problem, now they come up with comedy schemes - you don’t go here, you go there.
But we are not discussing here the peculiarities of the border between Belarus and the Russian Federation, but the answers of experts like "This does not work for you."
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answered 4 years ago
I googled) So yes, there is the possibility of crossing the Belarusian-Russian border by citizens of third countries at the moment - the three sisters border checkpoint. And this means that the statement of the respected prosto2000 is not entirely true.
What does it mean? We can all be wrong.
I was generally sure that this issue was resolved long ago. For 4 years it was possible to move the problem from its place.
What does it mean? We can all be wrong.
I was generally sure that this issue was resolved long ago. For 4 years it was possible to move the problem from its place.
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answered 4 years ago
Thanks Apyatka, otherwise I was very worried about this problem.
If without irony, I was not at all interested and not interested in whether this problem was moved or not.
I gave this example to understand the logic of crossing the border.
Quote taken from here - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%81%D1 %82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8 6 %D0%B0
there are also sources of information. For example, the clarification of the FSB of the Russian Federation of November 2017.
If without irony, I was not at all interested and not interested in whether this problem was moved or not.
I gave this example to understand the logic of crossing the border.
Quote taken from here - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%81%D1 %82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8 6 %D0%B0
there are also sources of information. For example, the clarification of the FSB of the Russian Federation of November 2017.
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answered 4 years ago
By the way, the Three Sisters is not the solution to the problem. This is the work of the same logic of crossing the border. This point is located on the border of three countries: Belarus, Russia and Ukraine. Therefore, there are border guards from all sides, who can legalize the border crossing.
And "by the way" - this point is very small, as it is located away from the main streams. Its throughput is only 200 cars per day. This is not a solution to the problem. It can be solved only by the Schengen variant.
And "by the way" - this point is very small, as it is located away from the main streams. Its throughput is only 200 cars per day. This is not a solution to the problem. It can be solved only by the Schengen variant.
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answered 4 years ago
"Thanks Apyatka, otherwise I was very worried about this problem."
What is the problem - the possibility of crossing the border or that you can be wrong too?)
Statement on the impossibility of legal crossing of the Belarus-Russia border by citizens of third countries (including citizens of the CIS and EU countries)
incorrect, despite Wikipedia. This possibility exists de facto. And how, in what quantity, with what difficulties - this is the tenth thing.
Although, you are undoubtedly right that the logic of this boundary is extremely illogical and can even be considered the height of human illogicality) An uninitiated person finds himself in a difficult situation simply because it cannot even occur to anyone that this is possible.
What is the problem - the possibility of crossing the border or that you can be wrong too?)
Statement on the impossibility of legal crossing of the Belarus-Russia border by citizens of third countries (including citizens of the CIS and EU countries)
incorrect, despite Wikipedia. This possibility exists de facto. And how, in what quantity, with what difficulties - this is the tenth thing.
Although, you are undoubtedly right that the logic of this boundary is extremely illogical and can even be considered the height of human illogicality) An uninitiated person finds himself in a difficult situation simply because it cannot even occur to anyone that this is possible.
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answered 4 years ago
I am satisfied with the option that the information on Wikipedia was reliable as of November 2017, as it was based on the explanation of the authorized body.
But the problem was, is and will be. After all, the treaty of friendship, etc. in accordance with which border control was lifted, was signed back in 1995. And there was a time when third-country nationals only had to legalize a migration card. But from some point on, this ceased to suit Russia.
And it began.
Read:
https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-46559474
https://eurasia.expert/v-mid-rossii-utochnili-khod-peregovorov-s-belarusyu-po-sozdaniyu-she ngena-na-dvoikh/
So the Three Sisters don't solve the problem. They say that yesterday the Russian border post at this point began to demand a Russian visa from citizens of third countries. And formally they are right - there is no mutual recognition of visas.
But the problem was, is and will be. After all, the treaty of friendship, etc. in accordance with which border control was lifted, was signed back in 1995. And there was a time when third-country nationals only had to legalize a migration card. But from some point on, this ceased to suit Russia.
And it began.
Read:
https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-46559474
https://eurasia.expert/v-mid-rossii-utochnili-khod-peregovorov-s-belarusyu-po-sozdaniyu-she ngena-na-dvoikh/
So the Three Sisters don't solve the problem. They say that yesterday the Russian border post at this point began to demand a Russian visa from citizens of third countries. And formally they are right - there is no mutual recognition of visas.
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answered 4 years ago
prosto2000, whether you like it or not, there is a possibility for foreigners to legally cross the Belarus-Russia border. I still don't quite understand where you see the problem. I would also like to see a more active development of a common visa policy in the union state, but so far we have what we have.
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answered 4 years ago
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